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Old 03-16-2010, 10:17 AM  
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Peter King: The Chiefs will never take a safety that high

I hope that ****nut is wrong but I am sure I will be disappointed if Berry is there and they pass unless they decide to draft Clausen.

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I noticed last night SI's Peter King was tweeting up a storm at his Twitter account about all things football for a few hours. One very interesting observation came out of him that I think would surprise a lot of us here.
Someone suggested the Chiefs trade with the Dolphins, who are in need of a playmaking safety. King, who agreed with a Miami/Kansas City trade scenario, had this to say:
"And KC would never take [safety] that high."
Now, King's one of the best in the business when it comes to sports reporting, especially the NFL and that sounds like a pretty definitive statement.

With that said, I see his logic. Scott Pioli has always struck me as a guy who's more likely to build from the inside out meaning the focus is on the offensive and defensive lines.

Just something to keep in mind as we inch toward April.
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Old 03-16-2010, 09:56 PM   #301
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I don't really feel like reading through this thread just now, but I want to point out that Peter King is a useless hack.

He's a dumbass.

While the Patriots history might suggest it likely that Pioli won't draft a safety, if Peter King says it won't happen, then I like the chance that it will happen a hell of a lot more than I did before.
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Old 03-16-2010, 09:59 PM   #302
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I don't really feel like reading through this thread just now, but I want to point out that Peter King is a useless hack.

He's a dumbass.

While the Patriots history might suggest it likely that Pioli won't draft a safety, if Peter King says it won't happen, then I like the chance that it will happen a hell of a lot more than I did before.
Except that he was the first to break Tyson Jackson last year AND he was at Arrowhead reporting from Thursday to Saturday on draft weekend last year.

Something tells me, besides the fact I've been saying it for weeks, that he's spot on.
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Old 03-16-2010, 10:18 PM   #303
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Except that he was the first to break Tyson Jackson last year AND he was at Arrowhead reporting from Thursday to Saturday on draft weekend last year.

Something tells me, besides the fact I've been saying it for weeks, that he's spot on.
Well to be fair, he had a good source on the Tyson Jackson info and seems to be speculating on the Chiefs not taking a safety at 5. He's probably right though, as much as I'd hate to say it.
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Old 03-16-2010, 10:23 PM   #304
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Seems like the Chiefs aren't as secretive this year.
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Old 03-16-2010, 10:26 PM   #305
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Except that he was the first to break Tyson Jackson last year AND he was at Arrowhead reporting from Thursday to Saturday on draft weekend last year.
My recollection is that Gosslin was the one that broke Tyson Jackson last year, by introducing him very, very high on his final player rankings and then sending him to KC in his final mock.
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Old 03-17-2010, 01:04 AM   #306
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Im not saying you wrong....im just telling youhow teams think.

Look how many safetys have been picked top 5 in the past 20 years...
When they're amazing prospects, they get picked high in the draft. It's like any position (with the exception of some of the lesser positions).

Sean Taylor went 5th overall. He was an incredible prospect. Eric Berry is that level. He's totally worth the 5th overall pick in the draft. No question.
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Old 03-17-2010, 01:35 AM   #307
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When they're amazing prospects, they get picked high in the draft. It's like any position (with the exception of some of the lesser positions).

Sean Taylor went 5th overall. He was an incredible prospect. Eric Berry is that level. He's totally worth the 5th overall pick in the draft. No question.
I concur
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Old 03-17-2010, 01:40 AM   #308
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The Chiefs will go with Berry unless they find a way to trade down. Makes too much sense. (BTW, Pioli has historically favored defense in the first round.)
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Old 03-17-2010, 03:35 AM   #309
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I would laugh if he was indeed right and we infact took Clausen instead...



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When they're amazing prospects, they get picked high in the draft. It's like any position (with the exception of some of the lesser positions).

Sean Taylor went 5th overall. He was an incredible prospect. Eric Berry is that level. He's totally worth the 5th overall pick in the draft. No question.
So our trade down possibilities should be legit...
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Old 03-17-2010, 05:16 AM   #311
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I don't give a **** what Peter King says.

Pioli has taken a safety in the first round before.
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The Chiefs will go with Berry unless they find a way to trade down. Makes too much sense. (BTW, Pioli has historically favored defense in the first round.)
If Berry is still there, This.
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Old 03-17-2010, 05:48 AM   #313
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I saw that posted on his twitter last night. I didn't want to post it here though because I don't want to be the bearer of the ultimate bad news for Chiefs Planet.
Liar.

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It's only a risky to people who think you need the greatest OL of all time to win anything, Petro is another one of the OL at all costs people.
This type of logic is beyond annoying.

When did the Chiefs offense begin to nose dive? During the 2006 offseason when Willie Roaf retired and the Chiefs failed to have an adequate replacement plan in place.

Even with the signings of Lilja and Weigmann, the Chiefs have dire needs at both tackle positions and no long term solutions in place for Waters and Weigmann who are both, at their respective ages playing on borrowed time.

The Chiefs have tried the method of rebuilding the offensive line through lower round draft picks, cheap veteran free agents and undrafted free agents that your logic is apparently suggesting. It has been a FAILURE. See Will Svitek, See Kyle Turley, See Adrian Jones, See Barry Richardson, See Rudy Niswanger... FAILURE FAILURE FAILURE FAILURE.

Why not FINALLY address the need for a franchise caliber left tackle that can anchor the line for the next 10 years?
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This type of logic is beyond annoying.

When did the Chiefs offense begin to nose dive? During the 2006 offseason when Willie Roaf retired and the Chiefs failed to have an adequate replacement plan in place.

Even with the signings of Lilja and Weigmann, the Chiefs have dire needs at both tackle positions and no long term solutions in place for Waters and Weigmann who are both, at their respective ages playing on borrowed time.

The Chiefs have tried the method of rebuilding the offensive line through lower round draft picks, cheap veteran free agents and undrafted free agents that your logic is apparently suggesting. It has been a FAILURE. See Will Svitek, See Kyle Turley, See Adrian Jones, See Barry Richardson, See Rudy Niswanger... FAILURE FAILURE FAILURE FAILURE.

Why not FINALLY address the need for a franchise caliber left tackle that can anchor the line for the next 10 years?
The fact that the dumbasses in charge before did a piss poor job replacing the lost O-Line talent doesn't in any way diminish the fact that most of the best O-lines have, at most, one first round player on that line.

Even the Chiefs that you love so much had, it could be argued, only two first rounders on that line in Roaf and Tait, but the interior was made up of a 3rd rounder and two UDFAs.
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