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Old 04-05-2010, 11:04 AM  
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Who should we draft 1st?
who should it be?
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Old 04-05-2010, 05:53 PM   #166
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He was worse than Leinart, who WON THE ****ING HEISMAN TROPHY. That means that any other QB, nay player, in the nation should have played behind Leinart, because he was better than any of them.

The fact that Cassel was, at any point, considered to start over the Heisman Trophy winner shows that they thought pretty highly of him.
He didn't win the ****ing Hesiman first you dense mother ****er.
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Old 04-05-2010, 05:53 PM   #167
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He took a 16-0 team to an 11-5 record.
Don't use that argument. Brady took an 11-5 team to a 10-6 record.
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Old 04-05-2010, 05:54 PM   #168
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He didn't win the ****ing Hesiman first you dense mother ****er.
So because Cassel couldn't beat out the best QB in the nation, he should be faulted?

Wow, you'll twist anything around to try and make it work.
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Old 04-05-2010, 05:55 PM   #169
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While I was disappointed with Cassel's play, not all on his own doing, I don't see Pioli throwing him under the bus with a first round pick.

I think you have to look at Pioli's history, and I don't see him picking a QB or Safety in round one.

If I were a betting man I'd say trading down is what he's trying to do first. If he can't get that done I think he picks a lineman, probably OL.
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Old 04-05-2010, 05:57 PM   #170
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You know why Brady threw 50 td passes? Same reason Manning threw 49.Because their back up QB's were SHIT!
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Old 04-05-2010, 05:57 PM   #171
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So because Cassel couldn't beat out the best QB in the nation, he should be faulted?

Wow, you'll twist anything around to try and make it work.
He wasn't the best QB in the nation when he beat him out.
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Old 04-05-2010, 06:00 PM   #172
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He wasn't the best QB in the nation when he beat him out.
No, he was the Pac-10 Offensive Player of the Year and a member of the All-Pac 10 First Team. He won the Heisman the following year.
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Cassel ****ing sucks.


End of ****ing story.
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Old 04-05-2010, 06:02 PM   #174
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No, he was the Pac-10 Offensive Player of the Year and a member of the All-Pac 10 First Team. He won the Heisman the following year.
The funny thing about this issue you are making a case that Cassel isn't an elite QB.
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Cassel ****ing sucks.


End of ****ing story.
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The funny thing about this issue you are making a case that Cassel isn't an elite QB.
No, I'm making the case that he wasn't a Heisman trophy winning QB. Very few are.

And Leinart was very likely the best QB to ever play at USC, a school with one of the richest traditions in college football (His record indicates that, anyway). How many QBs could say that?
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Jesus, did socoppo and his 9 dupes vote for Okung?
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No, I'm making the case that he wasn't a Heisman trophy winning QB. Very few are.
Yes, you are if he was elite and had the ability to a heisman favorite he would've beat out Leinart. If he had the ability, and still got beat out why didn't he transfer so he could prove everyone wrong? With your own posts you are stating he isn't an elite QB.
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Look, I'm going to explain this once since Lemonpledge is being very dense at best in this debate..

Palmer went to the NFL, the next 2 QB's at SC were Cassel and Leinart, Cassel was a 4 star recruit and Leinart was a 3 star recruit. Cassel was expected to easily win that job and be the SC starter...he was beaten out and Leinart went on to be a great college QB.

Lemon is acting like Leinart was a known quantity during that competition, he wasn't. It was Cassel's job to lose and he did just that.

And for that Sanchez comment, Sanchez was never expected to beat out Booty as Booty had been starting and was a 5 star recruit, a lot of SC fans thought he should of played but it wasn't an expected conclusion like Cassel coming in after Palmer was.

What happened with Leinart and Cassel would have been like if Booty had gone and Sanchez would have been beaten out by Aaron Corp to start the next year.
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Even though Weiss loves Clausen, I really don't think the Chiefs will pick him if he is there at #5.

I can't see it happening. Just can't. My reason for saying that, Im led to believe that the Chiefs are not going to give up on Cassel and the fact is they invested a hefty contract in him just spells that Pioli will stick to him and will depend on Weiss to develop him. To tie up to large contracts into 2 qb's doesnt seem like something the Chiefs would do.

If Berry is there at #5, they could take him? But I think Pioli will go with linemen. It's just Pioli being Pioli and emphasizing on positional value more than anything else.

I do hope Suh falls to 5, because if he does, I fully expect and think the Chiefs will take him. I do think Dorsey will get traded, I can just see it...My crystal ball says YES!..lol im joking around here..But seriously, I think for Pioli it's about focusing on positional value, and finding the right type of players that know that have the ability to adapt and know their roles within their schemes. Suh is a nice blend of talent, physicality, intellegence, and toughness. He fits the mold of a Pioli type player.

In other words, Suh=better fit in a 3-4 than Dorsey

dorsey=not so good fit in a 3-4, so therefore traded

*that pretty much sums up my reasoning as to why I think the chiefs will make these kind of moves.
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