News Cop shot dog, owner blamed police - Page 13

Msmith · 04-06-2010, 07:19 AM

There are wrong in so many levels in this story.

MOhillbilly · 04-07-2010, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Like hell.

You don't lose your Constitutional liberties when you're doing something stupid or even illegal. In fact, that's exactly when those liberties become most paramount.

Speaking of folks I hope don't become lawyers or police officers...

dont mean shit when it comes to bulldogs.

DJ's left nut · 04-07-2010, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyCoffey

it's hard to fix the wall of stupid

And none are so blind as those who refuse to see.

If you refuse to even consider the possibility that the cops in a notoriously corrupt jurisdiction, who acted (by even your own admission) fairly questionably, are now covering their own asses, then I suppose you're right - there simply isn't anything left to discuss.

But I would again guide you to any other law enforcement thread on this board that I've ever participated in. I am generally vehemently pro-officer; but based on the reports and what I believe to be the likely conduct of the people involved in this one, I'm coming down on the other side.

Carry on.

DJ's left nut · 04-07-2010, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

dont mean shit when it comes to bulldogs.

For the record, I can't stand Pits either.

One of my first posts on this board:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...1&postcount=95

BigDaddy probably still hates me.

I think I can stand behind my objectivity. I like cops, I hate Pits and I'm almost always siding on the 'dont' want to get ****ed with, don't do illegal stuff' camp; but the cops were in the wrong here.

MOhillbilly · 04-07-2010, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

For the record, I can't stand Pits either.

One of my first posts on this board:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...1&postcount=95

BigDaddy probably still hates me.

I think I can stand behind my objectivity. I like cops, I hate Pits and I'm almost always siding on the 'dont' want to get ****ed with, don't do illegal stuff' camp; but the cops were in the wrong here.

i love bulldogs and for the most part am neutral with the pigs. But facts are cops and pitbulls dont mix. simple as that. Aint shit gonna happen to this cop, the kid wont get any money. People on both sides will get pissed and the breed will just continue to suffer.
The seeds are sown and the crop has been harvested and put up.
Aint shit else gonna happen thats positive.

ClevelandBronco · 04-07-2010, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by tooge

this would be a much more interesting (and tragic) conversation if the guy had shot the cop when he barged in instead of the cop shooting the dog. THEN, the guy is simply protecting his home from an invader (if the cop didn't identify himself). But he didn't. I love dogs, and if i have a gun and any breed of dog attacks me, I'm shootin the dog too.

I'm unfamiliar with the law in Missouri, but in Colorado I believe that the invader isn't an invader at all until he enters the house.

crazycoffey · 04-07-2010, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Uh oh.

oh, so you're a lawyer, that explains everything like how you know what the officer felt and believed.....

carry on folks, nothing to see here.

DJ's left nut · 04-07-2010, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyCoffey

oh, so you're a lawyer, that explains everything like how you know what the officer felt and believed.....

carry on folks, nothing to see here.

I'm pretty certain I've said that I 'know' nothing about what he felt.

Everything I've said I have drawn from the facts and circumstances surrounding the event.

I've stated none of my opinions as an absolute fact, I've stated only that I'm comfortable drawing inferences from what facts we do have.

And that you've been shockingly closed minded about doing so yourself.

There are none so blind...

tooge · 04-07-2010, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

my view is that a pitbull dog( and bulldogs in general) is dangerous period. Those who keep them run a risk. If you dont have your Ps & Qs lined up with these dogs you can expect bullshit to enter your life via your charge.
And i live outside the city.

OK, thats pretty much what I was sayin. This guy, and anyone else that owns one knows that when they buy it, that someday, there is a good chance something might go down because of the dog. It was that day for this guy.

To DJ's nut, the dog doesn't have any constitutional rights, the way you are arguing, you would think you are arguing for the dogs rights. If you are this cop, and you make a poor judgement by entering the yard unanounced, and the dog attacks you, what do you do? I agree he made a poor judgtement entering the yard. I dont agree he made a poor judgement shooting the dog. He could have made the same poor judgement at my house, and my dog wouldn't have done shit but stand there and bark at him, so the dog is at fault here too.

beach tribe · 04-07-2010, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by wutamess

By not shooting potato cannons in the first fuggin place.
I completely agree.

I believe you may be "too old" sir .

beach tribe · 04-07-2010, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyCoffey

oh, so you're a lawyer, that explains everything like how you know what the officer felt and believed.....

carry on folks, nothing to see here.

We already know you're gonna back the cop, and "protect your own"
the way all cops do.

DJ's left nut · 04-07-2010, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by tooge

OK, thats pretty much what I was sayin. This guy, and anyone else that owns one knows that when they buy it, that someday, there is a good chance something might go down because of the dog. It was that day for this guy.

To DJ's nut, the dog doesn't have any constitutional rights, the way you are arguing, you would think you are arguing for the dogs rights. If you are this cop, and you make a poor judgement by entering the yard unanounced, and the dog attacks you, what do you do? I agree he made a poor judgtement entering the yard. I dont agree he made a poor judgement shooting the dog. He could have made the same poor judgement at my house, and my dog wouldn't have done shit but stand there and bark at him, so the dog is at fault here too.

If you think I was arguing for the dog's rights I would suggest that any point I've made has simply been lost on you.

I don't give two shits about the dog, as I have made readily apparent several times. I've said I don't blame him for shooting the dog once he foolishly created the situation.

In all honesty, I have no earthly idea how you could derive that I am arguing the dog's rights from anything I have said in this thread.

FAX · 04-07-2010, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

If you think I was arguing for the dog's rights I would suggest that any point I've made has simply been lost on you.

I don't give two shits about the dog, as I have made readily apparent several times. I've said I don't blame him for shooting the dog once he foolishly created the situation.

In all honesty, I have no earthly idea how you could derive that I am arguing the dog's rights from anything I have said in this thread.

That's all well and good, Mr. DJ's left nut. But, what about cats? Shouldn't they have the same rights as dogs?

FAX

Johnny Vegas · 04-07-2010, 03:57 PM

so he should've been practicing archery and not the potato gun. SHOTS FIRED!! SHOTS FIRED!!! TAKE THE DOG OUT BEFORE YOU PROCEED!!

if the dog is in the yard why would he, knowing the rep behind pit bulls, proceed in the yard?? its like hmmm I'll just walk into this lions den even tho I could just go to the front and speak to the handler to conduct a search or even call back up...but that would make too much sense. Instead lets make something out of nothing.

crazycoffey · 04-07-2010, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I'm pretty certain I've said that I 'know' nothing about what he felt.

Everything I've said I have drawn from the facts and circumstances surrounding the event.

I've stated none of my opinions as an absolute fact, I've stated only that I'm comfortable drawing inferences from what facts we do have.

And that you've been shockingly closed minded about doing so yourself.

There are none so blind...

dude, you've been reaching all afternoon, and your argument hinges on the perspective that a crime wasn't going on, the officer knew no one was in danger, but he went in anyway. full of speculation.

crazycoffey · 04-07-2010, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

We already know you're gonna back the cop, and "protect your own"
the way all cops do.

because that's exactly what I've been doing?

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Johnny Vegas MVP Join Date: May 2008 Casino cash: $3224814	so he should've been practicing archery and not the potato gun. SHOTS FIRED!! SHOTS FIRED!!! TAKE THE DOG OUT BEFORE YOU PROCEED!! if the dog is in the yard why would he, knowing the rep behind pit bulls, proceed in the yard?? its like hmmm I'll just walk into this lions den even tho I could just go to the front and speak to the handler to conduct a search or even call back up...but that would make too much sense. Instead lets make something out of nothing.
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