Cameron Sheffield. Good pick

[Ralphy Boy]

Can't say I was happy about several picks, but Sheffield is a good one.

[KCrockaholic]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

that's not small for an OLB in a 3-4 but it is certainly small for an actual 3-4 defensive end...

Who said he was going to be a DE in a 3-4? He's not. He will be a Sam in a 3-4.

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life

Who said he was going to be a DE in a 3-4? He's not. He will be a Sam in a 3-4.

yea but everything he is graded and analyzed on is being a down defensive end in a 4-3. So, it's kind of skewed.

[buddha]

I think it's a helluva nice pick and I've stopped reading the posts of some of the clowns in this thread. Everything sucks, everything's bad...boo-freaking-who! It's the same 10 morons who rip every single pick and they don't have a single legit reason to do it.

[KCrockaholic]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

yea but everything he is graded and analyzed on is being a down defensive end in a 4-3. So, it's kind of skewed.

4-3 DE's convert to 3-4 OLB's.

For example, if we drafted Kindle, he would be our 3-4 OLB despite playing in a 4-3 at Texas.

Scouts and coaches have to project what a player will do at the next level to fit their scheme.

KC thinks Sheffield will be a good OLB in a 3-4 despite playing in a 4-3 at Troy.

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life

4-3 DE's convert to 3-4 OLB's.

For example, if we drafted Kindle, he would be our 3-4 OLB despite playing in a 4-3 at Texas.

Scouts and coaches have to project what a player will do at the next level to fit their scheme.

KC thinks Sheffield will be a good OLB in a 3-4 despite playing in a 4-3 at Troy.

Correct, but you made a point about him being small and used Dumervil as your example. That is fine, but I'm saying he's graded small because his analysis is at the defensive end position and not the OLB position that he will be playing in the future. Which is why there is/was a "small size" argument for front line play.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

yea but everything he is graded and analyzed on is being a down defensive end in a 4-3. So, it's kind of skewed.

You do understand that many of the rushbackers (OLB) in a 34 were DEs in college?

[milkman]

Originally Posted by buddha

I think it's a helluva nice pick and I've stopped reading the posts of some of the clowns in this thread. Everything sucks, everything's bad...boo-freaking-who! It's the same 10 morons who rip every single pick and they don't have a single legit reason to do it.

I haven't seen a single person ripping this pick in this thread.

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by milkman

You do understand that many of the rushbackers (OLB) in a 34 were DEs in college?

yes. I like the pick, I was just saying there is no point to bitch about his size because he won't be playing DE.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

yes. I like the pick, I was just saying there is no point to bitch about his size because he won't be playing DE.

I don't get it?

You're complainig that a draft analysis talks about his size as a DE, while at the same time they talk about his projection to OLB in a 34 when discussing his play in the Senior Bowl?

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by milkman

I don't get it?

You're complainig that a draft analysis talks about his size as a DE, while at the same time they talk about his projection to OLB in a 34 when discussing his play in the Senior Bowl?

I'm not complaining about his size, I just said he was too small to play on the line and would be a nice Tamba Hali style compliment, I think it's great value for the 5th round.

[KChiefs1]

http://www2.dothaneagle.com/dea/Spor...the_job/96625/

TROY — When Cameron Sheffield first came to Troy, he was so quiet that his teammates thought he was crazy.

They nicknamed him “Killer Cam.”

The name stuck, but now it’s sticking for the right reasons. The senior defensive end from Portal, Ga., is quiet off the field, but a monster on it. He broke out as a starter last year, earning all-conference honors, and has established himself as one of the best defensive players in the Sun Belt, if not the country.

“It’s just my nature,” Sheffield said of his personality. “I’ve always been a quiet, shy type.”

Last year Sheffield quietly turned in a monster year, earning all-conference honors with 12.5 tackles for loss and 5.5 sacks. He’s made his mark so far this year in four games, as he’s tied for second in the league with three sacks. The Trojans (2-2, 1-0 Sun Belt) host Middle Tennessee (3-1, 1-0) next Tuesday at 7 p.m. on ESPN2.

Sheffield and fellow senior Brandon Lang were both all-conference picks last year and on the preseason all-league team. Sheffield had a big sack in last week’s 30-27 win over Arkansas State. Alex Carrington, the league Defensive Player of the Year last year, who edged out Lang and Sheffield, didn’t have one.

“He’s played good,” defensive ends coach Randy Butler said. “He made some big plays, made a huge play Saturday with the sack, and he’s playing hard and making plays. I know he’s probably frustrated that he’s not making more, but that’ll come.

“He’s really played well; he and Brandon have played well.”

Sheffield didn’t make a good first impression with Butler, though it wasn’t because he got in trouble. Right after Butler was hired prior to last season, he was told Sheffield had broken his wrist playing pickup basketball.

“I didn’t know Cameron from the next guy,” Butler said. “It hindered him some early, but hopefully he’s not on the basketball court anymore.”

Sheffield graduated from a small school near the campus of Georgia Southern and was recruited by them, but chose Troy. He was also recruited by Middle Tennessee, but by the staff that was recruiting him before fourth-year head coach Rick Stockstill was hired.

The big man on campus in high school took a while to come out of his shell in college, but has now developed into a senior leader.

“He’s opened up a little bit,” Blakeney said. “He’s actually walked up to me and talked to me a couple of times this year. He’s such a good kid and he’s always trying to do the right thing for the team and himself.”

Butler said he’s even noticed Sheffield’s lighter side.

“He clowns a little bit around the other guys,” Butler said. “I catch it out of the corner of my eye. When he gets around me, he’s serious. He likes to have fun.

There’s a time and place for everything and he knows it. When it’s time to go, he’s ready to go.”

The 6-foot-2, 249-pound Sheffield is projected as a fourth-round NFL Draft pick by CBSSports.com and is listed as an outside linebacker. With a big season, he could shoot up draft boards like DeMarcus Ware and Leodis McKelvin did.

“I consider it a blessing coming from where I came from, but I’ll continue to remain humble about it,” Sheffield said.

[KCrockaholic]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

Correct, but you made a point about him being small and used Dumervil as your example. That is fine, but I'm saying he's graded small because his analysis is at the defensive end position and not the OLB position that he will be playing in the future. Which is why there is/was a "small size" argument for front line play.

I never said Sheffield was small. I said he wasn't small, and the people that think a 6'3 257 pound OLB is small are fooling themselves.

Sheffield won't be playing DE. He's a average sized 3-4 LB now in the NFL. End of story.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life

I never said Sheffield was small. I said he wasn't small, and the people that think a 6'3 257 pound OLB is small are fooling themselves.

Sheffield won't be playing DE. He's a average sized 3-4 LB now in the NFL. End of story.

This. Again.

[L.A. Chieffan]

from what ive read and seen hes kinda slow.

[Chris Meck]

Hey did you guys hear? This Sheffield guy-he's SMALL. And SLOW. Way too small to play DE.