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Planning a character arc (or the last shot book ending the first shot) is not the same as what you're suggesting.
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But I guess I distinguish between 24 or Chuck and LOST in terms of what is and isn't "fluff". Or for that matter, sit coms.
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As for not tying up ALL the loose ends, while they should have started that earlier (knowing their ending date) I don't think they could have satisfactorily explained EVERYTHING.
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06-19-2010, 10:05 AM | #6051 | |
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The entire series was Jack's story. It was Jack's journey from a "Man of Science" to a "Man of Faith". The flashbacks don't matter. The "Sideways" flashes don't matter. All that matters is Jack's journey in "real time" from the moment his eyes were opened to the moment his eyes closed. If the show had ended after two seasons, it would have ended the same exact way and been about the same exact thing. But, it went six seasons, which allowed the producers to flesh out other characters that helped Jack reach enlightenment, characters that existed only because Jack needed them to exist in order to "move on". |
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06-19-2010, 10:41 AM | #6052 | |
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Charlotte's sickness has nothing to do with constants. The whole constant thing has to do with a psychic or mental time travel - or displacement, like grounding a wire. The effects of physical time travel are what is killing Charlotte and the other travelers. The sickness that took Rousseau's crew is definately connected to the Smokey possessions. And I think it always has been. The sickness that the DI were vaccinating against was a different thing all together. They are two seperate causes, though both were referred to as "sickness." Which is confusing. |
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Dane, you are so incredibly wrong it's not even funny. Also I don't care how many "industry" people agree with you. I don't care if the boom mic operator from Two and a Half Men shares your theory.
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I can see that. LOST definately is an "entertainment-first" kinda show. But I think they tackled some pretty heavy issues. Beyond just naming characters or the good vs evil dicussion. There's the fate vs free will debate. As well as science vs faith. The "playing God" debate. They even debate the necessity of torture. There's a lot going on. There are moral and ethical power plays in almost every episode. I do agree that some of it was on the periphery. But I think it's still there. One of the things I loved about the show was it's balance of heavier issues with exciting entertainment. When I think "fluff" I think more of shows like Grey's Anatomy. Which is another show that pretends to tackle issues. There are many "morality" issues at play on that show, but it's certainly not opporating on the same level as a show like LOST. To me, Grey's is fluff. LOST is more cerebral. |
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Good point. It's good to keep that in mind, but, as you say, it's irrelevant in Charlotte's case. |
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If you were to look at the story any other way, it's a gigantic cluster**** of loose ends, plot holes and mini story arcs that were never, ever explained. Quite honestly, I thought it was an enormous copout, especially the source of the island, the island itself, the fact that Michael is there "stuck", no explanation of the Egyptian artifacts and on and on and on and on and on. I expected the ending to be absolutely EPIC but IMO, it was far from epic. It was more like "Ah, okay. Well, whatever". |
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I'm not that person, however. Ultimately, I don't care what other people thought about the finale, or the show in general. I felt like the whole thing was a fairly personal experience. I'm probably being too precious about it, but that's how I prefer to remember and enjoy LOST. Sorry you didn't like the ending more. |
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That's the problem: The ending would have been the same regardless of what happened in between. The show would have come to the same conclusion.
My disappointment lies within the fact that the writers set up this amazing mythology, a mythology that captivated a great many of the show's viewers, only to reveal NOTHING about that mythology and basically shit all over it. It was completely and utterly irrelevant in the end. It was a plot device and unexplained at that. But sure, it all happened because Jack's dad said so. You know, Christian Shepard. I need to stop because it's only going to piss me off even more. |
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