Bernard Pollard a predicted Pro Bowler!!

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Micjones

Have you forgotten the fact that Pollard became disgruntled at being cursed at by a first year coach trying desperately to instill a particular mindset with his new team?

Can you see how that might've had a part in his being walked?

I've been arguing for a year that his confrontation with Pendergast was the only reason he was cut, so yeah.

But that's ****ing ridiculous. A franchise with this little talent can't afford to cut players with potential to make a statement.

I don't see Pioli in a hurry to jettison the QB who constantly argued with Haley on the sidelines and was caught yelling "**** you" in response to fans booing him.

It's a bad decision regardless of why it was made.

[Micjones]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

But that's ****ing ridiculous. A franchise with this little talent can't afford to cut players with potential to make a statement.

So is getting upset because a football coach, at the highest level, cursed at you.

I don't see Pioli in a hurry to jettison the QB who constantly argued with Haley on the sidelines and was caught yelling "**** you" in response to fans booing him.

Might have something to do with his being the leader of the football team?


Pollard being gone...is partly why we now have Eric Berry.
You'll excuse me if I don't join you in crying over spilled milk.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Micjones

So is getting upset because a football coach, at the highest level, cursed at you.



Might have something to do with his being the leader of the football team?

It had a lot more to do with being cursed at, and you know it. He didn't feel like he was being treated like an adult. And based on what we witnessed with Haley's tirades in the weeks prior to the Pittsburgh game, I can see his point.

If they continue to treat players like this, they'll continue to lose players.

Luckily, I think Haley realized this just before the Pittsburgh game. He magically started acting like a coach and less like a tyrant after his dad visited.

Plus there were a few reports that Clark asked him to tone it down.

[Micjones]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

It had a lot more to do with being cursed at, and you know it. He didn't feel like he was being treated like an adult. And based on what we witnessed with Haley's tirades in the weeks prior to the Pittsburgh game, I can see his point.

It's professional football. Grow a set, build a bridge and get over it Bernie.
This was a first year team. Haley was trying to overcome a softer regime that preceded his and get his team off the ground at the same time. It's called tough love. Helped Derrick Johnson.

If they continue to treat players like this, they'll continue to lose players.

It's been an issue with exactly two players.
I think they'll be fine.

[RedThat]

Originally Posted by Micjones

It's professional football. Grow a set, build a bridge and get over it Bernie.
This was a first year team. Haley was trying to overcome a softer regime that preceded his and get his team off the ground at the same time. It's called tough love. Helped Derrick Johnson.



It's been an issue with exactly two players.
I think they'll be fine.

I hoped its helped DJ. I hope his last game of the season carries over to this season and is the start of something new.

It does look like he won the organization over. whether he plays at a high level remains to be seen. My jury is still out.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Micjones

It's professional football. Grow a set, build a bridge and get over it Bernie.
This was a first year team. Haley was trying to overcome a softer regime that preceded his and get his team off the ground at the same time. It's called tough love. Helped Derrick Johnson.



It's been an issue with exactly two players.
I think they'll be fine.

Helped DJ how?

By sitting his ass on the bench, even though he is far and away the most talented LB we have?

(and I know that's not saying much)

Bottom line is this:

Pollard was a casualty of Pioli's ego.

I guarantee that players like Tyson Jackson, Alex McGee, Matt Cassel, etc will get more than two years to prove themselves.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Mic, or anyone else:

I'd love to hear an argument as to why cutting Bernard Pollard was a good decision. Why cutting him makes us a better team.

[Micjones]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Mic, or anyone else:

I'd love to hear an argument as to why cutting Bernard Pollard was a good decision. Why cutting him makes us a better team.

I don't know that it was necessarily good or bad for the team.

Tell me why cutting Pollard made the team worse...

[Micjones]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Helped DJ how?

Did you watch the Denver game?

By sitting his ass on the bench, even though he is far and away the most talented LB we have?

He's also done the least on the field with the most athletic ability.
And he doesn't have the kind of work ethic necessary to close that gap.

I guarantee that players like Tyson Jackson, Alex McGee, Matt Cassel, etc will get more than two years to prove themselves.

Jackson deserves more time. He was the 5th overall pick.
Cassel deserves more time. He's a QB and they've invested in him BIG.

Magee's the only player who shouldn't warrant more time.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Micjones

Did you watch the Denver game?



He's also done the least on the field with the most athletic ability.
And he doesn't have the kind of work ethic necessary to close that gap.



Jackson deserves more time. He was the 5th overall pick.
Cassel deserves more time. He's a QB and they've invested in him BIG.

Magee's the only player who shouldn't warrant more time.

Funny, DJ had a similar game in Baltimore.

First game of the year, before Haley started ****ing with him.

To claim that Heley's mind games is going to make DJ a better player is ****ing ridiculous.

He's always had the talent. What he hasn't had is solid coaching.

There's no reason he shouldn't start 16 games this year, provided he stays healthy.

To think otherwise is to say, "**** it."

Might as well cut Albert and Bowe as well.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Helped DJ how?

By sitting his ass on the bench, even though he is far and away the most talented LB we have?

(and I know that's not saying much)

Bottom line is this:

Pollard was a casualty of Pioli's ego.

I guarantee that players like Tyson Jackson, Alex McGee, Matt Cassel, etc will get more than two years to prove themselves.

I don't think it's as cut and dry as that.

If Pollard hadn't been playing at an abysmally low level during preseason, after turning in a shitty 2008, he may not have been cut.

But play like shit and act like shit...you get flushed.

By the way, DJ's benching was completely warranted. He proved that by missing quite a few tackles (despite his lack of PT) and doing stupid shit like blowing pass coverages...remember the Pittsburgh game?

If doing that turns him into a better player it was the right move.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

YES!

Perhaps he can hire LJ to carry his G2 and tie his shoelaces at the Pro Bowl this year?