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Old 07-23-2010, 03:19 PM  
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Bernard Pollard a predicted Pro Bowler!!
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Old 07-23-2010, 08:29 PM   #121
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I still wonder how much of Bowe's "drops" problem is Cassel-related. Bowe wasn't the only receiver dropping passes.

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Again, drops are a subjective stat.

If the ball is thrown well behind Bowe, and he has to attempt a circus catch and fails, is that a drop?

It shouldn't be.

Are the decision makers checking replays to see if the defender got a piece of the ball, or are they going on what they see at full speed?

I can think of 2 or 3 instances last year where people here got pissy over a supposed drop and the replay showed the defender getting a hand on the ball.
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Old 07-23-2010, 08:31 PM   #122
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I don't disagree.

However, from a coach's point of view, there is more to the evaluation process than a long-distance assessment of which player is "better" from a talent perspective, Mr. OnTheWarpath58. I mean, they have to know the playbook, practice with consistency, prove their ability to deal with adversity, etc.

Although I've disagreed with many of the current regime's player decisions (particularly in respect to the o-line), I have to admit that I lack a complete, comprehensive picture of those players' ability to contribute.

It reasonable to assume that, for every thing we think we know about a player, there are ten things we don't know.

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That was a bold statement, considering some feel their opinion is fact....
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Old 07-23-2010, 08:31 PM   #123
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Again, drops are a subjective stat.

If the ball is thrown well behind Bowe, and he has to attempt a circus catch and fails, is that a drop?

It shouldn't be.

Are the decision makers checking replays to see if the defender got a piece of the ball, or are they going on what they see at full speed?

I can think of 2 or 3 instances last year where people here got pissy over a supposed drop and the replay showed the defender getting a hand on the ball.
There are really a lot of factors to consider to determine whether it was the QB's fault or the WRs fault for the dropped passes. I agree with you on this.
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Old 07-23-2010, 08:32 PM   #124
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Also, would be cool to see Pollard make a Pro Bowler...
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Old 07-23-2010, 08:33 PM   #125
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Also, would be cool to see Pollard make a Pro Bowler...
no no no no no...it would make me feel miserable.
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Old 07-23-2010, 08:35 PM   #126
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no no no no no...it would make me feel miserable.
Nah, no need to cry over what is done...
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Old 07-23-2010, 08:38 PM   #127
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The drops are so blown out of proportion.

IIRC, in 2008, Marques Colston had 2 fewer drops than Bowe.

I doubt anyone would be ragging his ass over it.
Who's talking about 2008?

Bowe had 9 drops last year. Only 47 catches.

Colston had 10 drops, 70 catches.

Johnson had 10 drops, 101 catches.

Either way I'm more worried about Bowe's off the field behavior. If that keeps up Pioli will be completely justified in dumping DumBowe.
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Bernard Pollard was NO team captain.
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Old 07-23-2010, 08:39 PM   #129
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Nah, no need to cry over what is done...
I know...I hope Kendrick Lewis will come through for us though. That would make up for the loss of Pollard.
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I know...I hope Kendrick Lewis will come through for us though. That would make up for the loss of Pollard.
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Who's talking about 2008?

Bowe had 9 drops last year. Only 47 catches.

Colston had 10 drops, 70 catches.

Johnson had 10 drops, 101 catches.

Either way I'm more worried about Bowe's off the field behavior. If that keeps up Pioli will be completely justified in dumping DumBowe.
He's been chastised for drops since we drafted him.

Just pointing out that premier WR's drop the ball at a similar rate.

Not sure why you'd be surprised that his drop rate rose while Haley was constantly up his ass.
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Who's talking about 2008?

Bowe had 9 drops last year. Only 47 catches.

Colston had 10 drops, 70 catches.

Johnson had 10 drops, 101 catches.

Either way I'm more worried about Bowe's off the field behavior. If that keeps up Pioli will be completely justified in dumping DumBowe.
how many of those drops can you objectively say were the fault of Cassel?

2? 3? 4?

Id say 3 and that would make his average a lot more on par with those guys.
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I know...I hope Kendrick Lewis will come through for us though. That would make up for the loss of Pollard.
Picture a slower Mike Brown (2009, not Brown in his prime) but with better instincts.

That's Kendrick Lewis.
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He's been chastised for drops since we drafted him.

Just pointing out that premier WR's drop the ball at a similar rate.

Not sure why you'd be surprised that his drop rate rose while Haley was constantly up his ass.
Well, this is just me, but I never had a problem with Bowe's apparent "butterfingers" before last year, because he was caught 86 balls in 08.

Catch only 47, and miss 5 games, and it's a problem.
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