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Old 07-23-2010, 03:19 PM  
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Old 07-23-2010, 09:19 PM   #151
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You can time the kid with a sundial.

For example, Rolando McClain, rookie MLB for the Raiders - and considered slow by most here - had a better 40 time and weighs 70 pounds more.
Some players don't have to be very fast though if they are well prepared and that is the card this kid is carrying.

I hope he can be a young Sammy Knight for us. I think he can be, but Im not so sure he will be.
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Old 07-23-2010, 09:21 PM   #152
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Its just too bad they couldn't "make it work" and have had the same message gone over without losing one of our younger ascending players in "the process".
Once again: Pollard was not ascending. He was shit, was having a shit preseason, and was flushed.
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Old 07-23-2010, 09:23 PM   #153
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However big a mistake it was to let Pollard go, it made an impact on the team. It sent a message of how they were going to be doing business at 1 arrowhead drive. It was no longer "Club Herm" and cussing and such was gonna be part off the coaching, as were having higher standards and different motivational techniques.

I find it very assuring that it was taken correctly by the team, as the only one that hasn't been to ALL of the voluntary and mandatory workouts this offseason was Page. The team bought into what they are selling and hopefully that starts to show on the field throughout this year. I cant remember that EVER happening for as long as Ive been emotionally invested into this team. It should not go unnoticed.
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Old 07-23-2010, 09:26 PM   #154
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However big a mistake it was to let Pollard go, it made an impact on the team. It sent a message of how they were going to be doing business at 1 arrowhead drive. It was no longer "Club Herm" and cussing and such was gonna be part off the coaching, as were having higher standards and different motivational techniques.

I find it very assuring that it was taken correctly by the team, as the only one that hasn't been to ALL of the voluntary and mandatory workouts this offseason was Page. The team bought into what they are selling and hopefully that starts to show on the field throughout this year. I cant remember that EVER happening for as long as Ive been emotionally invested into this team. It should not go unnoticed.

Its just too bad they couldn't "make it work" and have had the same message gone over without losing one of our younger ascending players in "the process".
Agreed, he was an up and coming player. Might of been a solid player for many years. From the looks of it, maybe it was a mistake. But you never know. We only see what we hear and read about. We dont know what is truly happening inside...
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Old 07-23-2010, 09:28 PM   #155
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Old 07-23-2010, 09:29 PM   #156
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You can time the kid with a sundial.

For example, Rolando McClain, rookie MLB for the Raiders - and considered slow by most here - had a better 40 time and weighs 70 pounds more.
Keep in mind though, sometimes we could tend to focus too much on speed.

Maybe the kid has other attributes that could makeup for his lack of speed? There are guys out there that are slow but are good football players. Im not just speaking from the saftey position mind you.
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However big a mistake it was to let Pollard go, it made an impact on the team. It sent a message of how they were going to be doing business at 1 arrowhead drive. It was no longer "Club Herm" and cussing and such was gonna be part off the coaching, as were having higher standards and different motivational techniques.

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Its just too bad they couldn't "make it work" and have had the same message gone over without losing one of our younger ascending players in "the process".
I mentioned this earlier, but I don't think the players started buying in until the week of the Pittsburgh game, when it was rumored that Clark Hunt personally asked Haley to tone it down.

He did for the rest of the season, and I think the response was noticeable.

Do you respond favorably when your boss yells and screams at you, and treats you like a child?
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Old 07-23-2010, 09:36 PM   #158
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Some players don't have to be very fast though if they are well prepared and that is the card this kid is carrying.
Agreed, to an extent.

All the preparation in the world isn't going to make up for running a 4.72 forty at a position where speed is extremely important.

Does a player have to be very fast? No.

But they can't be very slow.

4.72 is slow for a LB, much less a DB.
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Old 07-23-2010, 09:38 PM   #159
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I mentioned this earlier, but I don't think the players started buying in until the week of the Pittsburgh game, when it was rumored that Clark Hunt personally asked Haley to tone it down.

He did for the rest of the season, and I think the response was noticeable.

Do you respond favorably when your boss yells and screams at you, and treats you like a child?
Im not gonna spend one keystroke defending Clancy, but I will say that I got yelled at about every practice and I learned to do it right so I wouldnt get yelled at. Shit, Ive been yelled at for passing out during wind sprints on a 95 degree day.

Difference is my coach knew what he was doing.
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Im not gonna spend one keystroke defending Clancy, but I will say that I got yelled at about every practice and I learned to do it right so I wouldnt get yelled at. Shit, Ive been yelled at for passing out during wind sprints on a 95 degree day.

Difference is my coach knew what he was doing.
No, the difference is that you were a ****ing kid, and playing football wasn't your JOB.
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Old 07-23-2010, 09:41 PM   #161
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Agreed, to an extent.

All the preparation in the world isn't going to make up for running a 4.72 forty at a position where speed is extremely important.

Does a player have to be very fast? No.

But they can't be very slow.

4.72 is slow for a LB, much less a DB.
Well, I bet Sammy Knight could never crack 4.7, but he was very smart and had a knack for being in the right place at the right time and was one of the best players at taking the ball away. Hopefully, under our current defensive coaches this kid will develop into a similar player.
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Shit, Ive been yelled at for passing out during wind sprints on a 95 degree day.

Difference is my coach knew what he was doing.
Yeah, uh, the evidence you've just presented says, "No. Your coach was a ****ing knucklehead."
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Yeah, uh, the evidence you've just presented says, "No. Your coach was a ****ing knucklehead."
All great coaches go too far at times.

He wanted us to have NO weaknesses, mentally or physically. He wanted to know each of our limits and how we responded if pushed beyond them and always let us know after the year what the defining points were. That was one for me.

Right or wrong, it made me a stronger person and it was a defining moment in my life. Some may or may not be able to relate to that.
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All great coaches go too far at times.

He wanted us to have NO weaknesses, mentally or physically. He wanted to know each of our limits and how we responded if pushed beyond them and always let us know after the year what the defining points were. That was one for me.

Right or wrong, it made me a stronger person and it was a defining moment in my life. Some may or may not be able to relate to that.
Just whipping some shit.

But yelling at the passed-out player is epically stupid, to say the very least.
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All great coaches go too far at times.

He wanted us to have NO weaknesses, mentally or physically. He wanted to know each of our limits and how we responded if pushed beyond them and always let us know after the year what the defining points were. That was one for me.

Right or wrong, it made me a stronger person and it was a defining moment in my life. Some may or may not be able to relate to that.
At times, sure.

All the time, as Haley did from February to November?

Professional athletes tune that bullshit out.

The best way to get respect is to GIVE respect. Treating grown men like high school kids doesn't fly.
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