Check this out: [8.4.2010 5792261] Notice of Copyright Infringement

[Reerun_KC]

Okay this is funny.. My son and I downloaded this movie about 3 months ago and watched it... Nice to see they are on top of things...

Dear Customer,
This message is to advise that Cox Communications has received a notice claiming that you are using your Cox High Speed Internet service to post or transmit material in violation of U.S. Copyright law. We have included a copy of the complaint, which identifies the party raising it and the material claimed to be infringing.
We ask that you review the complaint and, if it is valid, promptly remove or disable access to the infringing material. If you disagree with the claims in the notice, you should contact the sender, and not Cox, to resolve the matter.
As an Internet Service Provider, Cox is responsible, under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act ("DMCA"), to advise when we receive a notice asserting infringement by you. We are also required to take appropriate action if further claims are received that you do not resolve.
The material that you post or share online is your responsibility. Cox encourages responsible Internet use, but we do not monitor nor control the information you share. We have a duty, however, to take progressive steps when we received complaints of infringement.
If we continue to receive infringement claims such as this one, concerning your use of our service, we will suspend your account and disable your Internet connection until you confirm you have removed the infringing material.
To learn more about your responsibilities concerning copyrighted material, please refer to our help article at:
http://support.cox.com/sdccommon/asp...a-4c6448f22d05
http://www.respectcopyrights.org/
http://www.riaa.com/ispnoticefaq.php - (General information about DMCA notices)
If you would like to reply to this email, please keep the subject line intact for tracking purposes.
Sincerely,
Cox Customer Security
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Notice ID: 22-94125217
Notice Date: 4 Aug 2010 20:33:17 GMT
Cox Communications Inc.
Dear Sir or Madam:
BayTSP, Inc. ("BayTSP") swears under penalty of perjury that Paramount Pictures Corporation/Dreamworks Animation SKG, Inc. ("Paramount/Dreamworks") has authorized BayTSP to act as its non-exclusive agent for copyright infringement notification. BayTSP's search of the protocol listed below has detected infringements of Paramount/Dreamworks' copyright interests on your IP addresses as detailed in the below report.
BayTSP has reasonable good faith belief that use of the material in the manner complained of in the below report is not authorized by Paramount/Dreamworks, its agents, or the law. The information provided herein is accurate to the best of our knowledge. Therefore, this letter is an official notification to effect removal of the detected infringement listed in the below report. The below documentation specifies the exact location of the
We hereby request that you immediately remove or block access to the infringing material, as specified in the copyright laws, and insure the user refrains from using or sharing with others unauthorized Paramount/Dreamworks' materials in the future (see, 17 U.S.C. 512).
Further, we believe that the entire Internet community benefits when these matters are resolved cooperatively. We urge you to take immediate action to stop this infringing activity and inform us of the results of your actions. We appreciate your efforts toward this common goal.
Please respond indicating the actions you have taken to resolve this matter. The provided link has been assigned to this matter. http://webreply.baytsp.com/webreply/...20a281a16c618a
For email correspondence, please reference the above Notice ID in the subject line. mailtoaramount@copyright-compliance.com?subject=RE%3A%20Notice%20ID%3A%2022%2D94125217%20Notice%20of%20Unauthorized%20Use%20o f%20Paramount%20Pictures%20Corporation%2FDreamworks%20Animation%20SKG%2C%20Inc%2E%20Property
Nothing in this letter shall serve as a waiver of any rights or remedies of Paramount/Dreamworks with respect to the alleged infringement, all of which are expressly reserved. Should you need to contact me, I may be reached at the below address.
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BayTSP, Inc.
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Evidentiary Information:
Notice ID: 22-94125217
Initial Infringement Timestamp: 4 Aug 2010 18:15:32 GMT
Recent Infringement Timestamp: 4 Aug 2010 18:15:32 GMT
Infringers IP Address: 68.12.209.193
Protocol: BitTorrent
Infringed Work: Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen
Infringing File Name: Transformers 2 Revenge Of The Fallen DVDRip XviD-MAXSPEED
Infringing File Size: 1469734654
Bay ID: 19abc3ebf9ca970b72520f4eb430d93e340b368e|1469734654
Port ID: 52080
Infringer's DNS Name: ip68-12-209-193.ok.ok.cox.net
Infringer's User Name:
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[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

But you didn't deny the fact that you have watched highlight videos or other videos that were put together by members of this board or other draft sites etc.

What the **** is wrong with you?

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

You van call me what you want I don't give a shit. But you actig like your perfect is laughable at best. When you k ow damn well you have watched videos here or other sites that were not legal in a legal sense.

Dude, what the **** is wrong with you? I've never illegally downloaded music and I've never illegally downloaded a movie. I can't even watch Youtube on my main computer because the wireless router is three floors down and separated by concrete and steel.

Stop trying to justify YOUR actions by trying to insult me or my character.

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Call me a thief or an asshole or what ever you chose. I know I have downloaded stuff and watched it or listened to it at times for years. But to say your not guilty is pretty funny. You better block all animated gifs of football plays in peoples signatures and avatars.

Actually, all signatures ARE blocked. And again, you're trying to justify your actions.

Furthermore, I don't visit this site to see someone's avatar. But you've illegally downloaded movies and music (and admitted it) for your own personal gain.

First, you need to shut the **** up. Secondly, you need to take a long, hard look into the mirror because you're far too old to be rationalizing or justifying illegal activity.

[Ebolapox]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

But you didn't deny the fact that you have watched highlight videos or other videos that were put together by members of this board or other draft sites etc.

You van call me what you want I don't give a shit. But you actig like your perfect is laughable at best. When you k ow damn well you have watched videos here or other sites that were not legal in a legal sense.

Call me a thief or an asshole or what ever you chose. I know I have downloaded stuff and watched it or listened to it at times for years. But to say your not guilty is pretty funny. You better block all animated gifs of football plays in peoples signatures and avatars.

that's kinda douchy, dude. the fact that your spelling and typos were all over the place gives me the feeling that you were seething when you typed it. am I correct?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by H5N1

that's kinda douchy, dude. the fact that your spelling and typos were all over the place gives me the feeling that you were seething when you typed it. am I correct?

No, he's just drinking $40 dollar bottles of Scotch while defending his actions for not paying $.99 cents for a ****ing movie or TV show.

[chiefzilla1501]

I don't know if times have changed, but while I don't support piracy or illegal download (I buy all my shit on iTunes/Amazon, no matter how expensive), here's one thing that always bothered me. It would be one thing if I felt like I was stealing from the musicians, but in most cases, the musicians don't see a dime of your money anyway. Dane, correct me if I'm wrong, because you know the industry. But the impression I get is that if a musician isn't going to make money, they'll want to be heard. A lot of bands used to encourage bootlegging because they know that viral marketing is a hell of a lot more effective than forcing consumers to pay $1 per song just to listen to a track.

[BWillie]

So Dane McCloud is Prince? Same guy? Wow.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I don't know if times have changed, but while I don't support piracy or illegal download (I buy all my shit on iTunes/Amazon, no matter how expensive), here's one thing that always bothered me. It would be one thing if I felt like I was stealing from the musicians, but in most cases, the musicians don't see a dime of your money anyway. Dane, correct me if I'm wrong, because you know the industry.

You're wrong.

This is a very complex conversation but essentially what happens (or used to happen, before the massive onset of piracy and the changing of the way record labels and publishers do business) is as follows:

1. Band signs record deal. Generally one record with an option for two more. The third record is dependent on the sales of the second record.

2. Band receives a "Recording Fund". This fund is generally no less than $500,000 dollars. From this fund, the band and record label hire a producer who in turns hires an engineer(s) and pays for studio time (likely about $2,000 per day in a "real" studio).

3. Record is completed and the band makes a video, generally about $250,000.00.

4. Band hits the road. Record company pays approximately $30k per month as tour support for the band.

5. Record label spends an additional $100-200k on promotions (Radio & TV ads, giveaways, etc.).

By the time the band's first record is complete, the video is shot and their out promoting, the band is in the hole to the record company by anywhere from $500k-750k before they even sell ONE RECORD. Once the band begins (hopefully) to sell records, they must pay the record company back for all of these advances (it's called "recoupment") before they see any earnings.

If the band flops, the band owes nothing contractually and the label takes a financial hit ("write off"). If the band meets or exceeds their recoupable amount, they then share in the profits, anywhere from 14-21% of the retail pricing.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

But the impression I get is that if a musician isn't going to make money, they'll want to be heard. A lot of bands used to encourage bootlegging because they know that viral marketing is a hell of a lot more effective than forcing consumers to pay $1 per song just to listen to a track.

Bootlegging and "being heard" aren't the same. The only way to get on radio is by promoters, whether it be the record labels or "independent" promoters.

The internet is great and all, but last year alone only 2% of ALL albums released in the United States sold more than 5,000 copies.

Do the math.

[Ebolapox]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

...
The internet is great and all, but last year alone only 2% of ALL albums released in the United States sold more than 5,000 copies.

Do the math.

where is the money to be made here? that's a RIDICULOUSLY low total.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by H5N1

where is the money to be made here? that's a RIDICULOUSLY low total.

Well, the Disney kids are freaking DOMINATING. That's followed up by the American Idol kids.

After that, it's all the "Remastered Classics", like Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, etc.

Record labels just aren't signing and developing bands like they did in the 60's and 70's because it's just too expensive. They don't have the cash flow or the returns to be able to have 20-25 bands on their rosters, many of whom are on their first albums.

So short story long, it just doesn't exist. Superstar acts make money and the rest suffer.

[Ebolapox]

and when the superstars slow down or go into a cave (as happens on occasion), where the hell is the next generation of superstars? that's what bothers me... I listen to the radio these days, and just don't hear many great new bands. granted, part of that is likely that I'm getting old and stuck on my tastes. I just don't see the depth of quality bands that was there in the past.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by H5N1

and when the superstars slow down or go into a cave (as happens on occasion), where the hell is the next generation of superstars? that's what bothers me... I listen to the radio these days, and just don't hear many great new bands. granted, part of that is likely that I'm getting old and stuck on my tastes. I just don't see the depth of quality bands that was there in the past.

Disney and American Idol.

The rest have to do it on their own, without a great studio, experienced engineers or great producers.

No one is making money. All the guys that can "play" are in Vegas lounge bands. All the guys that can write, play and produce are doing library music (i.e. background music for reality TV).

It's very bleak.

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

All the guys that can "play" are in Vegas lounge bands. All the guys that can write, play and produce are doing library music (i.e. background music for reality TV).

Huh. I'm not finding any shortage of musicians making great, uncompromising music.

[Ebolapox]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Disney and American Idol.

The rest have to do it on their own, without a great studio, experienced engineers or great producers.

No one is making money. All the guys that can "play" are in Vegas lounge bands. All the guys that can write, play and produce are doing library music (i.e. background music for reality TV).

It's very bleak.

the question is, how does one go about fixing the issue? I'm not convinced that preventing piracy is the fix-all that many have touted.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

Huh. I'm not finding any shortage of musicians making great, uncompromising music.

Good for you.

But I'd be shocked if they own homes, let alone make millions like those in the past.

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Good for you.

But I'd be shocked if they own homes, let alone make millions like those in the past.

I'd be shocked too for most of 'em. If they did own homes then it's on the back of a non-musician job that they hold.

[Ebolapox]

the thing is, I'm not sure if we can say that there aren't going to be breakthrough bands from time to time who eventually reach superstar status. those types of bands will always find success. what we lack today, IMO, is the depth of great bands. the cream of the crop will always be there. we lack the second and third tier of good to great bands that gives the variety of any musical generation.