Check this out: [8.4.2010 5792261] Notice of Copyright Infringement

[Reerun_KC]

Okay this is funny.. My son and I downloaded this movie about 3 months ago and watched it... Nice to see they are on top of things...

Dear Customer,
This message is to advise that Cox Communications has received a notice claiming that you are using your Cox High Speed Internet service to post or transmit material in violation of U.S. Copyright law. We have included a copy of the complaint, which identifies the party raising it and the material claimed to be infringing.
We ask that you review the complaint and, if it is valid, promptly remove or disable access to the infringing material. If you disagree with the claims in the notice, you should contact the sender, and not Cox, to resolve the matter.
As an Internet Service Provider, Cox is responsible, under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act ("DMCA"), to advise when we receive a notice asserting infringement by you. We are also required to take appropriate action if further claims are received that you do not resolve.
The material that you post or share online is your responsibility. Cox encourages responsible Internet use, but we do not monitor nor control the information you share. We have a duty, however, to take progressive steps when we received complaints of infringement.
If we continue to receive infringement claims such as this one, concerning your use of our service, we will suspend your account and disable your Internet connection until you confirm you have removed the infringing material.
To learn more about your responsibilities concerning copyrighted material, please refer to our help article at:
http://support.cox.com/sdccommon/asp...a-4c6448f22d05
http://www.respectcopyrights.org/
http://www.riaa.com/ispnoticefaq.php - (General information about DMCA notices)
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Sincerely,
Cox Customer Security
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Notice ID: 22-94125217
Notice Date: 4 Aug 2010 20:33:17 GMT
Cox Communications Inc.
Dear Sir or Madam:
BayTSP, Inc. ("BayTSP") swears under penalty of perjury that Paramount Pictures Corporation/Dreamworks Animation SKG, Inc. ("Paramount/Dreamworks") has authorized BayTSP to act as its non-exclusive agent for copyright infringement notification. BayTSP's search of the protocol listed below has detected infringements of Paramount/Dreamworks' copyright interests on your IP addresses as detailed in the below report.
BayTSP has reasonable good faith belief that use of the material in the manner complained of in the below report is not authorized by Paramount/Dreamworks, its agents, or the law. The information provided herein is accurate to the best of our knowledge. Therefore, this letter is an official notification to effect removal of the detected infringement listed in the below report. The below documentation specifies the exact location of the
We hereby request that you immediately remove or block access to the infringing material, as specified in the copyright laws, and insure the user refrains from using or sharing with others unauthorized Paramount/Dreamworks' materials in the future (see, 17 U.S.C. 512).
Further, we believe that the entire Internet community benefits when these matters are resolved cooperatively. We urge you to take immediate action to stop this infringing activity and inform us of the results of your actions. We appreciate your efforts toward this common goal.
Please respond indicating the actions you have taken to resolve this matter. The provided link has been assigned to this matter. http://webreply.baytsp.com/webreply/...20a281a16c618a
For email correspondence, please reference the above Notice ID in the subject line. mailtoaramount@copyright-compliance.com?subject=RE%3A%20Notice%20ID%3A%2022%2D94125217%20Notice%20of%20Unauthorized%20Use%20o f%20Paramount%20Pictures%20Corporation%2FDreamworks%20Animation%20SKG%2C%20Inc%2E%20Property
Nothing in this letter shall serve as a waiver of any rights or remedies of Paramount/Dreamworks with respect to the alleged infringement, all of which are expressly reserved. Should you need to contact me, I may be reached at the below address.
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BayTSP, Inc.
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Evidentiary Information:
Notice ID: 22-94125217
Initial Infringement Timestamp: 4 Aug 2010 18:15:32 GMT
Recent Infringement Timestamp: 4 Aug 2010 18:15:32 GMT
Infringers IP Address: 68.12.209.193
Protocol: BitTorrent
Infringed Work: Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen
Infringing File Name: Transformers 2 Revenge Of The Fallen DVDRip XviD-MAXSPEED
Infringing File Size: 1469734654
Bay ID: 19abc3ebf9ca970b72520f4eb430d93e340b368e|1469734654
Port ID: 52080
Infringer's DNS Name: ip68-12-209-193.ok.ok.cox.net
Infringer's User Name:
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[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by H5N1

the question is, how does one go about fixing the issue? I'm not convinced that preventing piracy is the fix-all that many have touted.

Preventing piracy is just a part of the answer. If there was more money available for people that work on the "business" side (producers, labels, A&R people, etc.) and there was more time to develop young acts, it would certainly help. But right now, that funding doesn't exist.

This cycle will need to run its course, which may take another five years or maybe even another decade before it sorts itself out.

Hopefully, people aren't so disenchanted and disenfranchised on the whole to take notice.

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by H5N1

the thing is, I'm not sure if we can say that there aren't going to be breakthrough bands from time to time who eventually reach superstar status. those types of bands will always find success. what we lack today, IMO, is the depth of great bands. the cream of the crop will always be there. we lack the second and third tier of good to great bands that gives the variety of any musical generation.

All we lack is great mainstream bands. We are in over our heads in artistically relevant bands - great musicians and songwriters - in many genres. It's just that they play radio unfriendly (read: good) music.

[CrazyPhuD]

Originally Posted by H5N1

the question is, how does one go about fixing the issue? I'm not convinced that preventing piracy is the fix-all that many have touted.

Well if all music is free then how can anyone make money? If no one can make money then there is no new novel music.

The answer has to be in the technology to reduce the cost structure/get exposure etc. However there is no great venue at this time. Maybe there will be or maybe music will change.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

All we lack is great mainstream bands. We are in over our heads in artistically relevant bands - great musicians and songwriters - in many genres. It's just that they play radio unfriendly (read: good) music.

I fully disagree.

I rarely, if ever, hear a "great" young musician.

Most don't have a style or sound of their own and most can't play outside of their specific genre. That doesn't meet the "great" test, IMO.

If we break it down further, there is no EVH, Randy Rhodes, Gary Moore, Yngwie Malmsteen, Steve Vai or Warren DeMartini of the past decade. No player that has transcended the genre and taken guitar to new heights.

There is no Neil Peart, Keith Moon, John Bonham or even Matt Cameron in the past decade.

There hasn't been a bassist with the impact of Chris Squire, Geddy Lee, Steve Harris, Billy Sheehan or John Entwhistle, let alone Jaco, Jeff Berlin or Stu Hamm.

And don't get me started on singers, Autotune and Melodyne.

It is just not the same.

[Ebolapox]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

All we lack is great mainstream bands. We are in over our heads in artistically relevant bands - great musicians and songwriters - in many genres. It's just that they play radio unfriendly (read: good) music.

true enough. I lost patience in the radio a long while back--they play the same damned songs by bands I couldn't give a crap about, followed by 20 minutes of commercials during a '30 minute commercial free ROCK BLOCK!'

one development I believe will prove to be huge for the next generation of 'great bands' is internet radio. you can hear bands and music that 99% of the time would never get play on mainstream stations. stuff that, in the past, would've been huge. that said, I'm not trendy enough to be an indie or underground music fan.

[Fire Me Boy!]

It's interesting to me how ideas change. I got freakin' KILLED on this board three years or so ago for my outspoken stance on piracy, and now it seems most people agree because of the cheaper alternatives piracy isn't OK.

Originally Posted by MTG#10

So copying dvd's that I pay to rent is stealing now too? If they dont want them copied, they should make it impossible.

Yes. You paid to rent a license to view the movie for a set time period. If you have Netflix, you COULD keep the movie until you've had time to watch it. But instead you copy it, which by freakin' definition is piracy. How is that hard to understand?

[Inspector]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You're wrong.

This is a very complex conversation but essentially what happens (or used to happen, before the massive onset of piracy and the changing of the way record labels and publishers do business) is as follows:

1. Band signs record deal. Generally one record with an option for two more. The third record is dependent on the sales of the second record.

2. Band receives a "Recording Fund". This fund is generally no less than $500,000 dollars. From this fund, the band and record label hire a producer who in turns hires an engineer(s) and pays for studio time (likely about $2,000 per day in a "real" studio).

3. Record is completed and the band makes a video, generally about $250,000.00.

4. Band hits the road. Record company pays approximately $30k per month as tour support for the band.

5. Record label spends an additional $100-200k on promotions (Radio & TV ads, giveaways, etc.).

By the time the band's first record is complete, the video is shot and their out promoting, the band is in the hole to the record company by anywhere from $500k-750k before they even sell ONE RECORD. Once the band begins (hopefully) to sell records, they must pay the record company back for all of these advances (it's called "recoupment") before they see any earnings.

If the band flops, the band owes nothing contractually and the label takes a financial hit ("write off"). If the band meets or exceeds their recoupable amount, they then share in the profits, anywhere from 14-21% of the retail pricing.




Bootlegging and "being heard" aren't the same. The only way to get on radio is by promoters, whether it be the record labels or "independent" promoters.

The internet is great and all, but last year alone only 2% of ALL albums released in the United States sold more than 5,000 copies.

Do the math.

Wow - Dane!! Thanks so much for your stance. What you described here is exactly the path my kid is on. Signed with EPIC records, video on VH1, been on hit TV shows, etc......

And what you have explained is exactly why it really ticks me off that some people think it's fine and dandy to just steal from others. I wonder if they shoplift their groceries. Might as well cause from where I sit there isn't much difference.

Maybe it's a maturity thing or maybe some people just simply have no personal integrity. Good grief, don't accidentally leave your keys in your car if you are ever around any of them.

My son's band is doing well, they are incredibly talented and make great music. It just bums me out to see how hard they work, all the travel and time away from home and family just to have these criminals feel they have the right to steal the fruits of their labor. It just makes me sick.

Hey you thieves out there, imagine your kid working his butt off to make something of his or herself and I came along and stole their paycheck. Would that seem cool to you then?

To quote my friend Dane, "JFC!!!"

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by H5N1

that's kinda douchy, dude. the fact that your spelling and typos were all over the place gives me the feeling that you were seething when you typed it. am I correct?

Actually this site is not very user friendly with Iphones, I was typing that on my phone late last night half a sleep.

Its bulky and hard to use on mobile devices.

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by Inspector

Wow - Dane!! Thanks so much for your stance. What you described here is exactly the path my kid is on. Signed with EPIC records, video on VH1, been on hit TV shows, etc......

And what you have explained is exactly why it really ticks me off that some people think it's fine and dandy to just steal from others. I wonder if they shoplift their groceries. Might as well cause from where I sit there isn't much difference.

Maybe it's a maturity thing or maybe some people just simply have no personal integrity. Good grief, don't accidentally leave your keys in your car if you are ever around any of them.

My son's band is doing well, they are incredibly talented and make great music. It just bums me out to see how hard they work, all the travel and time away from home and family just to have these criminals feel they have the right to steal the fruits of their labor. It just makes me sick.

Hey you thieves out there, imagine your kid working his butt off to make something of his or herself and I came along and stole their paycheck. Would that seem cool to you then?

To quote my friend Dane, "JFC!!!"

Congrats on your kids success and yes modern day technology does make things difficult for may different types of jobs, including this passion of your sons.

You think about it, but if one teenaged or pre-teen kid gets a song on his mobile device from a band like your sons, how many times to you think that those songs are bluetoothed to other kids... Great exposure of the band, but bad for the band and the money they are losing...

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy!

It's interesting to me how ideas change. I got freakin' KILLED on this board three years or so ago for my outspoken stance on piracy, and now it seems most people agree because of the cheaper alternatives piracy isn't OK.

I think the reason you got killed was because that thread was in the Media Center, that's where a lot of the people who do this type of stuff hang out. I never even saw that thread until after you had left.

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

What the **** is wrong with you?



Dude, what the **** is wrong with you? I've never illegally downloaded music and I've never illegally downloaded a movie. I can't even watch Youtube on my main computer because the wireless router is three floors down and separated by concrete and steel.

Stop trying to justify YOUR actions by trying to insult me or my character.



Actually, all signatures ARE blocked. And again, you're trying to justify your actions.

Furthermore, I don't visit this site to see someone's avatar. But you've illegally downloaded movies and music (and admitted it) for your own personal gain.

First, you need to shut the **** up. Secondly, you need to take a long, hard look into the mirror because you're far too old to be rationalizing or justifying illegal activity.

Thanks for your guiding light Dane and thanks for making an example out of me for the whole world to see what a bad person I am and how not to do bad things...

This has been fun, but I am done with the justification and rationalizing my actions for all my illegal activity... I cant compete with perfection...

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I fully disagree.

I rarely, if ever, hear a "great" young musician.

Most don't have a style or sound of their own and most can't play outside of their specific genre. That doesn't meet the "great" test, IMO.

If we break it down further, there is no EVH, Randy Rhodes, Gary Moore, Yngwie Malmsteen, Steve Vai or Warren DeMartini of the past decade. No player that has transcended the genre and taken guitar to new heights.

There is no Neil Peart, Keith Moon, John Bonham or even Matt Cameron in the past decade.

There hasn't been a bassist with the impact of Chris Squire, Geddy Lee, Steve Harris, Billy Sheehan or John Entwhistle, let alone Jaco, Jeff Berlin or Stu Hamm.

And don't get me started on singers, Autotune and Melodyne.

It is just not the same.

Ah the good ol bands of the days gone by..... still to this day, Narvina killed music.

[Chan93lx50]

So how do bands make money of the Zune Subscription. I use this for my daily music listening. I pay 15 bucks a month, I get 10 Free songs each month that I get to keep. I can download anything off thier site for free and use as long as I want to as long as I keep paying my subscription.

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

No, he's just drinking $40 dollar bottles of Scotch while defending his actions for not paying $.99 cents for a ****ing movie or TV show.

Tell NBC, History Channel, Discovery, and the rest to take the videos down from their website or start charging... If you're going to get bent about watching TV shows online....


Again Dane, your generalization is quite amusing.... I find it funny that you know all the answers and know everything about me and my online adventures... You assume way too much...

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by Chan93lx50

So how do bands make money of the Zune Subscription. I use this for my daily music listening. I pay 15 bucks a month, I get 10 Free songs each month that I get to keep. I can download anything off thier site for free and use as long as I want to as long as I keep paying my subscription.

Not sure how that works, I have an itunes and napster account that I download stuff from all the time... I am sure they have some deal with the record label where they pay a percentage back to it? Would be my guess...

I just PURCHASED the new Ratt album off on Itunes on April 15th of this year...