Check this out: [8.4.2010 5792261] Notice of Copyright Infringement

[Reerun_KC]

Okay this is funny.. My son and I downloaded this movie about 3 months ago and watched it... Nice to see they are on top of things...

Dear Customer,
This message is to advise that Cox Communications has received a notice claiming that you are using your Cox High Speed Internet service to post or transmit material in violation of U.S. Copyright law. We have included a copy of the complaint, which identifies the party raising it and the material claimed to be infringing.
We ask that you review the complaint and, if it is valid, promptly remove or disable access to the infringing material. If you disagree with the claims in the notice, you should contact the sender, and not Cox, to resolve the matter.
As an Internet Service Provider, Cox is responsible, under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act ("DMCA"), to advise when we receive a notice asserting infringement by you. We are also required to take appropriate action if further claims are received that you do not resolve.
The material that you post or share online is your responsibility. Cox encourages responsible Internet use, but we do not monitor nor control the information you share. We have a duty, however, to take progressive steps when we received complaints of infringement.
If we continue to receive infringement claims such as this one, concerning your use of our service, we will suspend your account and disable your Internet connection until you confirm you have removed the infringing material.
To learn more about your responsibilities concerning copyrighted material, please refer to our help article at:
http://support.cox.com/sdccommon/asp...a-4c6448f22d05
http://www.respectcopyrights.org/
http://www.riaa.com/ispnoticefaq.php - (General information about DMCA notices)
If you would like to reply to this email, please keep the subject line intact for tracking purposes.
Sincerely,
Cox Customer Security
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Notice ID: 22-94125217
Notice Date: 4 Aug 2010 20:33:17 GMT
Cox Communications Inc.
Dear Sir or Madam:
BayTSP, Inc. ("BayTSP") swears under penalty of perjury that Paramount Pictures Corporation/Dreamworks Animation SKG, Inc. ("Paramount/Dreamworks") has authorized BayTSP to act as its non-exclusive agent for copyright infringement notification. BayTSP's search of the protocol listed below has detected infringements of Paramount/Dreamworks' copyright interests on your IP addresses as detailed in the below report.
BayTSP has reasonable good faith belief that use of the material in the manner complained of in the below report is not authorized by Paramount/Dreamworks, its agents, or the law. The information provided herein is accurate to the best of our knowledge. Therefore, this letter is an official notification to effect removal of the detected infringement listed in the below report. The below documentation specifies the exact location of the
We hereby request that you immediately remove or block access to the infringing material, as specified in the copyright laws, and insure the user refrains from using or sharing with others unauthorized Paramount/Dreamworks' materials in the future (see, 17 U.S.C. 512).
Further, we believe that the entire Internet community benefits when these matters are resolved cooperatively. We urge you to take immediate action to stop this infringing activity and inform us of the results of your actions. We appreciate your efforts toward this common goal.
Please respond indicating the actions you have taken to resolve this matter. The provided link has been assigned to this matter. http://webreply.baytsp.com/webreply/...20a281a16c618a
For email correspondence, please reference the above Notice ID in the subject line. mailtoaramount@copyright-compliance.com?subject=RE%3A%20Notice%20ID%3A%2022%2D94125217%20Notice%20of%20Unauthorized%20Use%20o f%20Paramount%20Pictures%20Corporation%2FDreamworks%20Animation%20SKG%2C%20Inc%2E%20Property
Nothing in this letter shall serve as a waiver of any rights or remedies of Paramount/Dreamworks with respect to the alleged infringement, all of which are expressly reserved. Should you need to contact me, I may be reached at the below address.
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BayTSP, Inc.
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This infringement notice contains an XML tag that can be used to automate the processing of this data. If you would like more information on how to use this tag please contact BayTSP.
Evidentiary Information:
Notice ID: 22-94125217
Initial Infringement Timestamp: 4 Aug 2010 18:15:32 GMT
Recent Infringement Timestamp: 4 Aug 2010 18:15:32 GMT
Infringers IP Address: 68.12.209.193
Protocol: BitTorrent
Infringed Work: Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen
Infringing File Name: Transformers 2 Revenge Of The Fallen DVDRip XviD-MAXSPEED
Infringing File Size: 1469734654
Bay ID: 19abc3ebf9ca970b72520f4eb430d93e340b368e|1469734654
Port ID: 52080
Infringer's DNS Name: ip68-12-209-193.ok.ok.cox.net
Infringer's User Name:
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[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by vailpass

?

Back in the day when an band would release a song, the only way you could get the song is by purchasing a Cassette or whatever right? Most of them would cost around 8-9$ each....

If there were 2 million Cassettes sold. You would be looking at 16-19$ million in revenue - payment to the artists and production costs, etc....

In today's money 2 million would be around 26-27 million for that same artist and his cd.......

Now we can have 2 million people go out and download the hit song for .99$..............

Seems like a lot of revenue lost to me...

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Yeah, you're right. It's really difficult to use a mouse, a keyboard and search engine.

What was I thinking?

This is the type of small thinking that the record labels use. No wonder they lose money.

Labels Losing Money With iTunes Variable Pricing

from the shot-yourself-in-the-foot-again,-did-ya? dept

Right before Apple finally implemented variable pricing in iTunes it wasn't hard for many to predict that it would backfire badly on the major record labels as they tried to jack up prices. So, it should come as little surprise to find out those predictions appear to be entirely accurate. New reports say that the major record labels are losing revenue from variable pricing. Unit sales are dropping to the point that revenue is less as well. That's just bad business no matter how you look at it -- and totally preventable if they knew their own business. Plenty of people made it clear that sales would drop with higher prices, and it's amazing that the execs were unable to accurately predict how much.

Sometimes when we question the motives of entertainment industry execs, people say that we're being unfair in questioning the "intelligence" behind those moves. We're told over and over again that industry execs are much smarter than we are, and they know better than we do. And yet, almost everything that has been predicted has come true... over and over again. The industry keeps doing things that at least make it appear that it has trouble understanding the long-term implications of almost every move it makes. Perhaps they are smart. And perhaps it's all part of some grand plan. But, to date, the only evidence we've seen is that nearly every move made by the industry has backfired, and resulted in less revenue coming in, while those who predicted alternative and embraced alternative business models are finding tremendous success. At what point do we stop assuming that the legacy industry execs "are smarter" and recognize that they seem too focused on the old way of doing business to recognize how to competently change course?

[Skyy God]

Reerun, I know a guy who used to represent the RIAA in KC. If you want me to ask his opinion on how/if to respond to the letter, I'd be happy to.

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

They're losing money because of people like you. People that think it's "Okay" to obtain a copy of said music or feature film without paying for it..

LOL

You are way to funny... You have zero clue.... But whatever it takes to make you feel much better about this...

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

But whatever it takes to make you feel much better about this...

Its you who are rationalizing theft.

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Its you who are rationalizing theft.

I am such a bad person....

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

This is the type of small thinking that the record labels use. No wonder they lose money

First off, the link is to the site and what appears to be an opinion piece.

But then there are hard facts like this:

Digital formats now account for nearly one-third of Warner Music Group revenues. But the improved ratio is being driven by a sinking story on physical, and losses continue to mount at the major.

In its fiscal third quarter review, Warner Music revealed a loss of $55 million, compared with a year-earlier drop of $37 million. That is the sixth-straight quarterly drop for Warner, and during the latest period, revenues slipped 16 percent to $652 million.

That actually beat analyst expectations, for what it's worth. Yet losses over the past three quarters are nearly $100 million.

Meanwhile, the same old story on digital is getting worse. Digital formats only gained 2.3 percent during the quarter, and now account for 27 percent of the broader sales pie. Instead of replacing physical sales and forging a new business, digital seems to be flattening out prematurely.

http://investors.wmg.com/phoenix.zht...747&highlight=

Piracy is still affecting sales by 15% or more to this day. That's a lot of lost revenue.

[Skyy God]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The music industry wasn't "clueless". Of that, I can absolutely assure you.

In the beginning, the question that everyone was asking was "How do we deal with this issue"?

BTW, that issue has been resolved for nearly a decade so any excuse to the contrary is invalid.

Correct. From everything I've read, there was a lot of pressure from the artists themselves when Napster came out not to alter the existing model. Hit records were selling in the 8-10M range at that point.

That said (mixed metaphor warning), they missed the boat completely and it's going to tough to put the genie back in the bottle.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

LOL

You are way to funny... You have zero clue.... But whatever it takes to make you feel much better about this...

Really?

Please explain.

You're mouth-breathing, ****ing moron. Pull your stupid ****ing head out of your ass.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Back in the day when an band would release a song, the only way you could get the song is by purchasing a Cassette or whatever right? Most of them would cost around 8-9$ each....

If there were 2 million Cassettes sold. You would be looking at 16-19$ million in revenue - payment to the artists and production costs, etc....

In today's money 2 million would be around 26-27 million for that same artist and his cd.......

Now we can have 2 million people go out and download the hit song for .99$..............

Seems like a lot of revenue lost to me...

JFC, go back read the ****ing thread.

You couldn't be more ****ing clueless if you tried.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You're wrong.

This is a very complex conversation but essentially what happens (or used to happen, before the massive onset of piracy and the changing of the way record labels and publishers do business) is as follows:

1. Band signs record deal. Generally one record with an option for two more. The third record is dependent on the sales of the second record.

2. Band receives a "Recording Fund". This fund is generally no less than $500,000 dollars. From this fund, the band and record label hire a producer who in turns hires an engineer(s) and pays for studio time (likely about $2,000 per day in a "real" studio).

3. Record is completed and the band makes a video, generally about $250,000.00.

4. Band hits the road. Record company pays approximately $30k per month as tour support for the band.

5. Record label spends an additional $100-200k on promotions (Radio & TV ads, giveaways, etc.).

By the time the band's first record is complete, the video is shot and their out promoting, the band is in the hole to the record company by anywhere from $500k-750k before they even sell ONE RECORD. Once the band begins (hopefully) to sell records, they must pay the record company back for all of these advances (it's called "recoupment") before they see any earnings.

If the band flops, the band owes nothing contractually and the label takes a financial hit ("write off"). If the band meets or exceeds their recoupable amount, they then share in the profits, anywhere from 14-21% of the retail pricing.




Bootlegging and "being heard" aren't the same. The only way to get on radio is by promoters, whether it be the record labels or "independent" promoters.

The internet is great and all, but last year alone only 2% of ALL albums released in the United States sold more than 5,000 copies.

Do the math.

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

JFC, go back read the ****ing thread.

You couldn't be more ****ing clueless if you tried.

Its sad to know that my watching 4 movies and downloading a couple of dozen of very random songs that weren't on Itunes or Napster, caused the whole industry to collapse...

"You couldn't be more ****ing clueless if you tried" it goes the same way Dane, Your generalizations and continue finger pointing that I am stealing hollywood and LA out of under you, when its further from the truth than you are willing to admit.

But your not into that you just want to brow beat everyone...

At this point you can Die.....

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Its sad to know that my watching 4 movies and downloading a couple of dozen of very random songs that weren't on Itunes or Napster, caused the whole industry to collapse...

"You couldn't be more ****ing clueless if you tried" it goes the same way Dane, Your generalizations and continue finger pointing that I am stealing hollywood and LA out of under you, when its further from the truth than you are willing to admit.

But your not into that you just want to brow beat everyone...

At this point you can Die.....

Oh, **** you.

If you don't think that the actions of you and people like you aren't causing people to lose their jobs and that multimedia companies aren't losing money hand over fist, you're ****ing dumb.

And BTW, reerun, I haven't seen anyone in here tell you how to fly an airplane, but don't seem to have any problem telling people about THEIR business.

You're ****ing dumber than I could have possibly imagined.

[Omaha]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Its sad to know that my watching 4 movies and downloading a couple of dozen of very random songs that weren't on Itunes or Napster, caused the whole industry to collapse...

Clearly, nobody is saying that. We get it. You aren't stealing a lot. You're stealing a little bit. Do you really think that makes it OK? How much stealing is too much stealing?

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Its sad to know that my watching 4 movies and downloading a couple of dozen of very random songs that weren't on Itunes or Napster, caused the whole industry to collapse...

No, not you.....but you times a 10 million others.....you cant understand how you are contributing to the problem??

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Piracy is still affecting sales by 15% or more to this day. That's a lot of lost revenue.

No question about it. The genie is out of the bottle and unless they can come up with the media to be uncrackable and one that users will embrace it will continue. Unfortunately for the music and movie industry.