Check this out: [8.4.2010 5792261] Notice of Copyright Infringement

[Reerun_KC]

Okay this is funny.. My son and I downloaded this movie about 3 months ago and watched it... Nice to see they are on top of things...

Dear Customer,
This message is to advise that Cox Communications has received a notice claiming that you are using your Cox High Speed Internet service to post or transmit material in violation of U.S. Copyright law. We have included a copy of the complaint, which identifies the party raising it and the material claimed to be infringing.
We ask that you review the complaint and, if it is valid, promptly remove or disable access to the infringing material. If you disagree with the claims in the notice, you should contact the sender, and not Cox, to resolve the matter.
As an Internet Service Provider, Cox is responsible, under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act ("DMCA"), to advise when we receive a notice asserting infringement by you. We are also required to take appropriate action if further claims are received that you do not resolve.
The material that you post or share online is your responsibility. Cox encourages responsible Internet use, but we do not monitor nor control the information you share. We have a duty, however, to take progressive steps when we received complaints of infringement.
If we continue to receive infringement claims such as this one, concerning your use of our service, we will suspend your account and disable your Internet connection until you confirm you have removed the infringing material.
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Notice ID: 22-94125217
Notice Date: 4 Aug 2010 20:33:17 GMT
Cox Communications Inc.
Dear Sir or Madam:
BayTSP, Inc. ("BayTSP") swears under penalty of perjury that Paramount Pictures Corporation/Dreamworks Animation SKG, Inc. ("Paramount/Dreamworks") has authorized BayTSP to act as its non-exclusive agent for copyright infringement notification. BayTSP's search of the protocol listed below has detected infringements of Paramount/Dreamworks' copyright interests on your IP addresses as detailed in the below report.
BayTSP has reasonable good faith belief that use of the material in the manner complained of in the below report is not authorized by Paramount/Dreamworks, its agents, or the law. The information provided herein is accurate to the best of our knowledge. Therefore, this letter is an official notification to effect removal of the detected infringement listed in the below report. The below documentation specifies the exact location of the
We hereby request that you immediately remove or block access to the infringing material, as specified in the copyright laws, and insure the user refrains from using or sharing with others unauthorized Paramount/Dreamworks' materials in the future (see, 17 U.S.C. 512).
Further, we believe that the entire Internet community benefits when these matters are resolved cooperatively. We urge you to take immediate action to stop this infringing activity and inform us of the results of your actions. We appreciate your efforts toward this common goal.
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Evidentiary Information:
Notice ID: 22-94125217
Initial Infringement Timestamp: 4 Aug 2010 18:15:32 GMT
Recent Infringement Timestamp: 4 Aug 2010 18:15:32 GMT
Infringers IP Address: 68.12.209.193
Protocol: BitTorrent
Infringed Work: Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen
Infringing File Name: Transformers 2 Revenge Of The Fallen DVDRip XviD-MAXSPEED
Infringing File Size: 1469734654
Bay ID: 19abc3ebf9ca970b72520f4eb430d93e340b368e|1469734654
Port ID: 52080
Infringer's DNS Name: ip68-12-209-193.ok.ok.cox.net
Infringer's User Name:
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[Demonpenz]

Originally Posted by pr_capone

Hey, can you email me a copy when you finish d/l it?

he's going to seed it first.

[MTG#10]

Originally Posted by Inspector

You really should come up with a justification to rob banks too. It would be way more profitable.

Yeah, theives frequently will try to fool themselves into believing that their stealing isn't a bad thing for some reason or another.

And then it's real easy to say "That's my opinion". Cool. Guess what, the guy down the street is of the opinion that he should have your car.

A thief is a thief is a thief, regardless of the property they are stealing. The justifications people are trying pass off in this thread are amazing.

I'd like to thanks the honest people out there. I know there are plenty of us but obviously there are plenty who are not.

Im not trying to fool myself at all. In all the examples you listed someone is suffering a loss. When nobody suffers a loss of any kind, from a morality standpoint in my opinion its not theft. Im not depriving anyone of anything, and not profiting from it so no harm no foul. Tell me who is getting hurt when I copy a movie I rented from Netflix that I wasnt going to buy anyway? Nobody is, but people are profiting...Netflix, the movie industry, and dvd-r manufactures/sellers.

Originally Posted by Bearcat

So, if you went to Rent-a-Center, signed up to rent something for a week or whatever, then just kept it, that's stealing... but not when you do the same thing with a movie? You're paying a rental price so you can own (steal) it.

Think I'll stop by Hertz on the way home and get myself a second car for $40...

Rent-a-Center/Hertz would be suffering a loss of physical property that they could have sold to someone else and profited from, so yes in my opinion that would be theft. The movie industry isn't losing anything when I copy a movie that I paid to rent and I'm not depriving them of a sale they could have had because I wouldn't have bought it anyway. 90% of these movies I copy from Netflix sit in a folder and never get watched again anyway so Im basically just wasting my money on dvd-r's.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Did you steal the pot you're smoking?

Because if not, your comparison is completely invalid.

I used that example to prove my point that doing something illegal doesn't necessarily mean its immoral. And no I dont steal pot, and very rarely ever smoke it.

[Demonpenz]

you missed dane's point, he doesn't care if you download it, just don't sell it.

[MTG#10]

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

you missed dane's point, he doesn't care if you download it, just don't sell it.

Lol I doubt that's his point but if so I totally agree...

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by Omaha

The great new music is out there. You just have to work a lot harder to find it these days.

I hear people say that all the time, and frankly, I think it's a load of crap.

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I understand your opinion on the subject but I happen to disagree.

If in 20 years, bands from the past decade are being constantly played on the radio (or whatever the format may be at that time), appear in films and TV, you'll have a point.

But from my POV, I don't see that happening.

I can't in any way agree with your apparent, bewildering stance that good music necessarily = mainstream popular music. That stance is as evil to culture as piracy is to morality. There is no defense for it.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

I can't in any way agree with your apparent, bewildering stance that good music necessarily = mainstream popular music. That stance is as evil to culture as piracy is to morality. There is no defense for it.

There are very, very, very, very few bands that have a great legacy and a very small audience.

Never did I mention that a band had to have mainstream popularity to create good music, although in the past, popularity went hand in hand with the music that was created.

Furthermore, I mentioned specific uses in film and TV. We find instances of music from the 60's, 70's & 80's still permeating the airwaves, with countless placements in film, television and advertising to this day.

The point I made was that I don't think that in 20 years, the same will happen with music from this decade. It's rare to hear music from the 90's and I think that it'll be the same with this decade.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Music is a matter of taste.

Being a great player is not.

You specifically mentioned "great players". Well, they just don't exist in today's music. There are no groundbreaking guitarists, bassist, drummers or singers. For the most part, these guys can barely ****ing play their instruments or sing, AT ALL.

Pro Tools and programs like it give audio engineers and producers unprecedented means to alter recorded sound. Drummer can't play in time? Use Beat Detective. Drums were poorly recorded? Use Sound Replacer and choose from thousands of well recorded drum samples.

Can't play your guitar or bass? Shift them in time. Can't tune? Use Melodyne Editor to properly tune. Can't get a "proper" guitar or bass sound? Take a direct signal and re-amp into a great sounding rig.

Can't sing? Use Melodyne or Autotune to "magically" put singers in time and in proper pitch.

All of this has led to bands that can't play, but yet sell records (i.e. Jonas Brothers, et al).

And you're probably right: I don't have much respect for people making electronic music because all it takes is a computer and a few software programs to "create" music, even though the majority of that music uses loops, prerecorded beats and pre-programmed arpeggios.

Again, go ahead an name some "great players" from this past decade.

Dane, I always think of "great players" as bands that can play a set on stage and really switch it up, even with fairly minimal pre-recorded sounds. And I think there are plenty of bands who can do that if you dig far enough. I agree with you on Kings of Leon--saw a concert and every single track sounded as if it was straight from the album. But you have to dig deeper. There's a lot of really terrific indie bands that are doing a lot of really interesting things with experimental sound. And not all of it is electronic. I agree you don't have as many pure musicians out there. Though there are some--kills me to say it, but Dave Matthews' entire band (especially when coupled with Tim Reynolds and Bela Fleck) and John Mayer are insanely talented musicians. Wilco and Ben Folds are also pretty terrific, and their music is much better.

But I think you're missing out on a lot of indie bands that put on pretty amazing shows, even if they don't have a ton of electronics to muddle them up. I think what's been more impressive is the way modern music has been able to make a lot of instruments work together. The Arcade Fire and LCD Soundsystem have a bajillion players on one stage at any given time. You're seeing a lot of bands experiment with multiple drummers, with drummers who play other percussion (e.g. Why? has a drummer that can play drums and vibraphone at the same time, which is insanely difficult).

So I agree, it's a matter of taste. I think there are a lot of terrific musicians out there. I just don't think it's the style anymore in indie music for one guy to dominate the stage. I think you see a lot of bands that are doing amazing things with a lot of really talented musicians working together.

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

There are very, very, very, very few bands that have a great legacy and a very small audience.

Never did I mention that a band had to have mainstream popularity to create good music, although in the past, popularity went hand in hand with the music that was created.

Furthermore, I mentioned specific uses in film and TV. We find instances of music from the 60's, 70's & 80's still permeating the airwaves, with countless placements in film, television and advertising to this day.

The point I made was that I don't think that in 20 years, the same will happen with music from this decade. It's rare to hear music from the 90's and I think that it'll be the same with this decade.

I agree that we won't see an awful lot of music from the '00s in movies or TV in 20 years. Much of what does will be hip hop. But I don't see what that point has to do with my claim that there are good, valuable bands making music these days. Albums from Agalloch or TV on the Radio are going to be looked at as all-time classics by critics and serious music aficionados. There's so much wonderful music out there. It is rarely mainstream viable but that doesn't in any way mean that it isn't good or artistically valuable.

Rhetorically you absolutely did say that good music is mainstream music (insofar as one can agree that music played on radio/applicable future format in 20 years will be apart of the mainstream). You used that point to disagree with my assertion that the '00s had "good, valuable" music that came from it.

[Al Bundy]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Nirvana killed music.

This is gonna be the only thing I ever agree with you on.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Dane, I always think of "great players" as bands that can play a set on stage and really switch it up,

Your definition would not cut it in the world of audio engineering and producing.

That's a "performance" and not really associated with being an outstanding, unique player.

[Omaha]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Pretty impressive... I actually like... And no I will not pirate this, I will go and download it from my itunes account...

Just incase someone was picking up some stones...

Me???????

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

I agree that we won't see an awful lot of music from the '00s in movies or TV in 20 years. Much of what does will be hip hop. But I don't see what that point has to do with my claim that there are good, valuable bands making music these days.

Because it's your opinion and of course, you're entitled to it. But that doesn't mean that opinion will be shared by the masses.

There have been hundreds of hit songs and one hit wonders that I have no attachment to whatsoever emotionally, but I can understand and appreciate why others may have that attachment. And there are plenty of records and bands that I love that no one gets. It's the way it goes. Music speaks to each of us differently.

What's relevant to you is apparently a little different than what it's relevant to, for lack of a better term, "the mainstream". And it's far more likely that "mainstream" music will have more longevity and more public uses due to the fact that it's popular and "mainstream".

More people have the shared experience of "mainstream" music than underground music, which will always make "mainstream" music more important and relevant in film, television and advertising.

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Because it's your opinion and of course, you're entitled to it. But that doesn't mean that opinion will be shared by the masses.

There have been hundreds of hit songs and one hit wonders that I have no attachment to whatsoever emotionally, but I can understand and appreciate why others may have that attachment. And there are plenty of records and bands that I love that no one gets. It's the way it goes. Music speaks to each of us differently.

What's relevant to you is apparently a little different than what it's relevant to, for lack of a better term, "the mainstream". And it's far more likely that "mainstream" music will have more longevity and more public uses due to the fact that it's popular and "mainstream".

More people have the shared experience of "mainstream" music than underground music, which will always make "mainstream" music more important and relevant in film, television and advertising.

That's the way with everything. Millions of people think that the Transformers movies are great. These people have never seen films by Renoir, Ozu, Kurosawa, etc. That doesn't stop those great, relatively unseen films from being great.

Again, I'm not disagreeing with you about this past decade's music's lasting popular legacy. I'm will disagree with you until the ends of the Earth, until we chew and gnash each other to death, that there isn't some really good and even great music being made now.

[Ebolapox]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Music is a matter of taste.

Being a great player is not.

You specifically mentioned "great players". Well, they just don't exist in today's music. There are no groundbreaking guitarists, bassist, drummers or singers. For the most part, these guys can barely ****ing play their instruments or sing, AT ALL.
....

didn't seem to hamper the punk movement in the late 70's and early 80's, and some extremely influential music came out of that era.