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Notice ID: 22-94125217
Initial Infringement Timestamp: 4 Aug 2010 18:15:32 GMT
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Old 08-07-2010, 03:26 PM   #466
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Yeah, you're a ****ing moron. And your claim is absolutely baseless.

It's typical, too. I had a few friends that were active in the KC music scene come out to Los Angeles. A few talented players that thought they were songwriters as well.

When given the opportunity to interact with working professionals, whether it was producers, songerwriters or other musicians, they couldn't take the criticism, refused to learn or absorb any knowledge and usually shortly thereafter, went back home. Some stayed a little longer than others but ultimately, none of them did a damn thing.

Of course to this day, they still believe they were wronged and know more than those they encountered. It's sad and pathetic.

And FTR, you don't know jack****ing shit.
Thanks for the rant. Do you even know what you're arguing about?

It's just page after page of how you run the music industry, I don't know shit because I think there are some decent current bands, and classic rock is the only music that matters.

Well done. Those are some pretty stupid claims for someone so "in the know".

I know, don't tell me... I should **** off because I'm the idiot.
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Old 08-07-2010, 03:29 PM   #467
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Just to defend KC from insulting comments that could be made: Kansas City's Strange Music is one of the more influential rap labels in the business right now. They just opened up a LA branch (Strange Music West) - they didn't come to LA, LA came to them.
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Old 08-07-2010, 03:32 PM   #468
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Thanks for the rant. Do you even know what you're arguing about?

It's just page after page of how you run the music industry, I don't know shit because I think there are some decent current bands, and classic rock is the only music that matters.

Well done. Those are some pretty stupid claims for someone so "in the know".

I know, don't tell me... I should **** off because I'm the idiot.
Wow, you really need to go back and read the thread before you derailed it.

Initially, the thread was about IP theft. Then you jumped in with all this nonsense (and it was pure nonsense) about what bands are or are not relevant (and in all cases, you were incorrect).

Then you went off about the internet and indie bands and blah, blah, blah, which were absolutely irrelevant to the conversation.

Then you tried to convince us that you "know the music business" (Ha! Good one!) because you made a CD and opened for some national acts in the midwest.

Again, if you want to learn, reread the thread and feel free to ask questions. At this point, I certainly don't have any respect for your so-called "knowledge" and I think it's safe to say you've lost the any respect from some of the others for your baseless and inaccurate accusations.
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Old 08-07-2010, 03:33 PM   #469
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Just to defend KC from insulting comments that could be made: Kansas City's Strange Music is one of the more influential rap labels in the business right now. They just opened up a LA branch (Strange Music West) - they didn't come to LA, LA came to them.
That's cool. I was referring to experiences 15-17 years ago, not today. And FTR, I don't refer to rappers as "musicians".

And my only involvement with rap was with Irv Gotti, Eminem and a few others. It's not my cup of tea or forte.
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Old 08-07-2010, 03:35 PM   #470
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Here's what I'm talking about:



The idea that the internet could have been some kind of panacea for indie and unsigned bands was pure horseshit.

Very, very, very few artists broke through due a myspace or mp3.com account in the 90's and quite frankly, the mp3 and filesharing age has all but killed the major label record business.
That wasn't at all my point. It's a lot easier today to get your music out to people than it was in the mid '90s. For people interested in their local music scene, it's much easier to get the music today.
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Old 08-07-2010, 03:37 PM   #471
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That wasn't at all my point. It's a lot easier today to get your music out to people than it was in the mid '90s. For people interested in their local music scene, it's much easier to get the music today.
Yes, it's "easier" to be heard but that doesn't translate into success 99.9% of the time because it's mostly unlistenable garbage.

Did you see the stat from earlier in the thread? Only 2% of all records released in 2009 sold more than 5,000 copies.

That means that while there are far more people printing CD's these days, far less are actually buying them and even less are making any type of impact, musically or socially.
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Old 08-07-2010, 03:41 PM   #472
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I don't really think the cream rises to the top anymore.

Were there huge bands that will have the lasting impact 20 years down the line from the 2000s? I would have to say no.

Is there as good of quality of music being put out? I would have to say yes.

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I don't really think the cream rises to the top anymore.
You've just summed up what I've said throughout this thread: It's very difficult for a band, regardless of quality, to have an impact the way bands from earlier decades have had due to the splintered way that music is promoted and distributed.

And that is mainly due to music piracy and the tremendous amount of lost revenues.

Add in the fact that from the 60's through the 90's, most of the "cream of the crop" worked in $3,000 dollar a day recording studios with the industry's finest engineers and producers. Today, it's more likely to be a bedroom studio with little to no experience and subpar gear.

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Were there huge bands that will have the lasting impact 20 years down the line? I would have to say no.

Is there as good of quality of music being put out? I would have to say yes.
This is just opinion but I don't believe the music from this past decade can in anyway, shape or form be equal to the music of the 70's (minus rap of course, because rap didn't exist).
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Old 08-07-2010, 03:50 PM   #474
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Initially, the thread was about IP theft. Then you jumped in with all this nonsense (and it was pure nonsense) about what bands are or are not relevant (and in all cases, you were incorrect).
False. I simply responded to your claim that classic rock was the only music and all new bands suck & then you threw a tantrum. If you think Iron Maiden and Boston are relevant, then that's just fine. You do run the music industry, right?

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Then you went off about the internet and indie bands and blah, blah, blah, which were absolutely irrelevant to the conversation.
False. Actually, I responded to a post by chiefzilla and we has a perfectly normal discussion. You jumped in midway and had a little fit due to your inability to read.

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Then you tried to convince us that you "know the music business" (Ha! Good one!) because you made a CD and opened for some national acts in the midwest.
False, I was simply explaining where I was coming from. I even prefaced my statement by saying I didn't claim to be an expert.

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Again, if you want to learn, reread the thread and feel free to ask questions. At this point, I certainly don't have any respect for your so-called "knowledge" and I think it's safe to say you've lost the any respect from some of the others for your baseless and inaccurate accusations.
Again, I'm not claiming to be an expert on anything. I don't give a shit what you think about anything. You're not good at it. You've been throwing temper tantrums and posting condescending insults since the beginning of this thread. Reread the thread, yourself. You're being an infant any time someone as much as questions something you post.
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Yes, it's "easier" to be heard but that doesn't translate into success 99.9% of the time because it's mostly unlistenable garbage.

Did you see the stat from earlier in the thread? Only 2% of all records released in 2009 sold more than 5,000 copies.

That means that while there are far more people printing CD's these days, far less are actually buying them and even less are making any type of impact, musically or socially.
Yeah, I actually defended that stat when it was questioned earlier. I also wasn't worried about selling in excess of 5,000 CDs. We were just looking to get people into the bar to hear us. Having 1,000 CDs in circulation did the trick for us. We weren't out there trying hard to get signed.
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This is just opinion but I don't believe the music from this past decade can in anyway, shape or form be equal to the music of the 70's (minus rap of course, because rap didn't exist).
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False. I simply responded to your claim that classic rock was the only music and all new bands suck & then you threw a tantrum. If you think Iron Maiden and Boston are relevant, then that's just fine. You do run the music industry, right?
You're a dumb****. Both bands can sell out arenas worldwide but they're not relevant?



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Again, I'm not claiming to be an expert on anything. I don't give a shit what you think about anything. You're not good at it.
I'm not good at what?

And FWIW, you claimed you knew more than me about the music business. If that's so, you're wasting your time in Omaha because I could hook you up with a sweet gig that pays a couple hundred grand a year for starters.

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You've been throwing temper tantrums and posting condescending insults since the beginning of this thread. Reread the thread, yourself. You're being an infant any time someone as much as questions something you post.
Well, see, you're a ****ing n00b. And you acted like most dumb ****ing n00bs act, as if everyone is equal in life and on the internet.

Again, I've spent my entire life in the music business and more than a decade at two of the largest music corporations in the entire world. I know more about IP law, record and publishing contracts, royalties and copyrights than just a handful of people on the planet Earth.

Since I've been here for longer than a decade at CP, most people know this about me. I'm contacted via PM or on the forums about all kinds of issues relating to the music and film business and unlike you, most people have been very respectful.

Again, you'd be wise to listen and learn instead of making blanket, ridiculous statements of which you know little about.
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You've just summed up what I've said throughout this thread: It's very difficult for a band, regardless of quality, to have an impact the way bands from earlier decades have had due to the splintered way that music is promoted and distributed.

And that is mainly due to music piracy and the tremendous amount of lost revenues.

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This is just opinion but I don't believe the music from this past decade can in anyway, shape or form be equal to the music of the 70's (minus rap of course, because rap didn't exist).
I hear you. I just disagree.

At least you listen to a lot of music and formed that opinion. I just get frustrated when people think the stuff that has had broad commercial success are the only things the era has to present musically. That isn't the case.
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I hear you. I just disagree.

At least you listen to a lot of music and formed that opinion. I just get frustrated when people think the stuff that has had broad commercial success are the only things the era has to present musically. That isn't the case.
No, absolutely not.

But I also realize there's a little bit of a generational thing attached as well. Young people want to discover bands of their era and enjoy having that attachment.

But quite honestly, I haven't heard too many artists in the past 20 years that I feel will transcend generations like those artists from the 60's and 70's.
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