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[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by BossChief

So basically, "we didn't like him because he was from Texas"

Texas players have had the reputation amongst football people as being extremely athletic but poorly coached in the fundamentals.

This cannot be argued.

The overwhelming majority of Texas players taken in the first two rounds this past decade have been extremely disappointing. Many have been traded and some of those who haven't, have missed a significant amount of playing time either due to injury or being out of football, altogether.

Texas isn't USC. 90% of their players have not been even close to NFL ready. They aren't a football factory like Miami in the 80's and 90's.

Texas attracts star athletes from across their state and into Oklahoma but under Mack Brown, they've not been prepared for the NFL.

And Peyton?

Have you EVER seen Phil Fulmer coach? The guy across the street that runs VH-1 Reality TV is a better coach.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Texas players have had the reputation amongst football people as being extremely athletic but poorly coached in the fundamentals.

This cannot be argued.

you know what else cant be argued?

That previous to Aaron Rodgers, very similar type of things, relatively, had been said about Cal quarterbacks.

Orakpo was an elite prospect. Anyone could just watch him and see that.

Just like the guys that voted him to the probowl as a rookie.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by BossChief

you know what else cant be argued?

That previous to Aaron Rodgers, very similar type of things, relatively, had been said about Cal quarterbacks.

Orakpo was an elite prospect. Anyone could just watch him and see that.

Just like the guys that voted him to the probowl as a rookie.

You asked why people had an aversion to Texas players.

I gave you the answer.

How many Cal QB's since Rodgers have had success in the NFL?

And Orapko's one year success means nothing for Texas players.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You asked why people had an aversion to Texas players.

I gave you the answer.

How many Cal QB's since Rodgers have had success in the NFL?

And Orapko's one year success means nothing for Texas players.

No, I asked why it seemed before the draft that Orakpo had Aids and why everyone except for a couple of us absolutely hated the idea of even talking about him being our pick.

Every player at the top of that draft had serious flags.

Every one.

I somewhat agree with part of the point you are trying to make regarding Texas players though.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by BossChief

No, I asked why it seemed before the draft that Orakpo had Aids and why everyone except for a couple of us absolutely hated the idea of even talking about him being our pick.

Every player at the top of that draft had serious flags.

Every one.

And once again, I gave you the answer.

Texas.

If the guy had put up awesome numbers at USC or Notre Dame or any number of elite schools, he'd have gone higher.

Once more, scouts, GM's and coaches have a rational fear about Texas players overall because most do not live up to expectations, and there's a long track record to verify that belief.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

And once again, I gave you the answer.

Texas.

If the guy had put up awesome numbers at USC or Notre Dame or any number of elite schools, he'd have gone higher.

Once more, scouts, GM's and coaches have a rational fear about Texas players overall because most do not live up to expectations, and there's a long track record to verify that belief.

I must have added the last part of that post before you hit quote...I just think that Orakpo was one of those guys that you could watch play and see he had "it" and it didn't matter where he played..."it" was obviously there...then came the combine where he showed how elite his measurables were and it took it further. Dude is a dedicated football player that wasn't deserving of the soft label that most Texas players are.