Chiefs To the drafturbators...

**Reaper16** · 09-14-2010, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Bunit

Yeah Reaper, but to be fair he started this thread I'm guessing because Mecca was one of the whiney bitches who cried about McCluster, Moeaki, and Arenas. Holla.

Mecca gets called out for "not enjoying the win" because he defends himself from a poster that, instead of enjoying the win, starts a thread so he can enjoy trolling? I don't want to be posting in this thread right now, but here I am because stupid shit is being said. That's why Mecca is in here too.

Bunit · 09-14-2010, 12:57 AM

[QUOTE=Reaper16;7003735]Mecca gets called out for "not enjoying the win" because he defends himself from a poster that, instead of enjoying the win, starts a thread so he can enjoy trolling? I don't want to be posting in this thread right now, but here I am because stupid shit is being said. That's why Mecca is in here too.[/QUOT

I have not been here since the draft. What I remember is Mecca and other's killing the draft mainly because of the players that had a large impact in the win tonight. That is why dude started the thread, because of how extremely adamant they were about these being shitty picks. Feel me?

Mecca · 09-14-2010, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

Mecca gets called out for "not enjoying the win" because he defends himself from a poster that, instead of enjoying the win, starts a thread so he can enjoy trolling? I don't want to be posting in this thread right now, but here I am because stupid shit is being said. That's why Mecca is in here too.[/QUOT

I have not been here since the draft. What I remember is Mecca and other's killing the draft mainly because of the players that had a large impact in the win tonight. That is why dude started the thread, because of how extremely adamant they were about these being shitty picks. Feel me?

Please stop saying "feel me" and "holla".

Bunit · 09-14-2010, 01:01 AM

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Please stop saying "feel me" and "holla".

Feel me, really man. Are you that lame? Just asking Reaper if he's catching my drift. Feel me, Mecca? Holla.

**Reaper16** · 09-14-2010, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Bunit

I have not been here since the draft. What I remember is Mecca and other's killing the draft mainly because of the players that had a large impact in the win tonight. That is why dude started the thread, because of how extremely adamant they were about these being shitty picks. Feel me?

Yeah, I get why Hootie started the thread (and it goes deeper than your explanation and into something more pathological).

The reasons why some posters "killed the draft" was for reasons that have little to do with the win tonight. Long-term thinking vs short-term thinking.

Bunit · 09-14-2010, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

Yeah, I get why Hootie started the thread (and it goes deeper than your explanation and into something more pathological).

The reasons why some posters "killed the draft" was for reasons that have little to do with the win tonight. Long-term thinking vs short-term thinking.

Yeah, but this draft may fit into long-term thiking.

**Reaper16** · 09-14-2010, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Bunit

Yeah, but this draft may fit into long-term thiking.

I hope so. I didn't, and still don't, think that McCluster and Arenas will be productive players relative to their draft slots in two years. I hope I'm wrong about it, though.

**Saul Good** · 09-14-2010, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

Yeah, I get why Hootie started the thread (and it goes deeper than your explanation and into something more pathological).

The reasons why some posters "killed the draft" was for reasons that have little to do with the win tonight. Long-term thinking vs short-term thinking.

The reason they killed the draft is that they wanted short-term fixes. The biggest bitches were that a team in our position can't waste picks on luxury players. Maybe those picks weren't made because of our position. They were made because they were the most talented players on the board.

**Reaper16** · 09-14-2010, 11:19 AM

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The reason they killed the draft is that they wanted short-term fixes. The biggest bitches were that a team in our position can't waste picks on luxury players. Maybe those picks weren't made because of our position. They were made because they were the most talented players on the board.

That doesn't even make sense. How does wanting a 5-7 year starter equate to a short-term fix?

As for "most talented player on the board," well, it's far easier to refute that than it is to prove it. Perhaps I could be convinced that Dex and Javi were the most talented but barring that I don't accept that statement as outright fact.

**Saul Good** · 09-14-2010, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

That doesn't even make sense. How does wanting a 5-7 year starter equate to a short-term fix?

As for "most talented player on the board," well, it's far easier to refute that than it is to prove it. Perhaps I could be convinced that Dex and Javi were the most talented but barring that I don't accept that statement as outright fact.

Most of the people who bitched about these picks did so because we had bigger needs. They wanted guys like Cody, Clausen, or a lineman. That's called drafting for need and its short-sighted.

**Reaper16** · 09-14-2010, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

Most of the people who bitched about these picks did so because we had bigger needs. They wanted guys like Cody, Clausen, or a lineman. That's called drafting for need and its short-sighted.

I agree that drafting specifically for need is short-sighted. The argument for taking a Cody or a Clausen was not based upon need. It was based upon seeing those players as the best talents on the board + the best positional value on the board. Need happened to overlap, creating a perfect storm of opportunity.

What the Chiefs chose to do was markedly improve team speed. There's something to be said for the strategy; it certainly paid dividends last night. The question (and the reason why people disapproved of the '10 draft) is whether Dex and Javi - classic complimentary pieces - can still compliment the team over the next few seasons.

That said, IF the D-Line continues to play like they did last night and IF Derrick Johnson can continue to be the disruptive force that he was last night (and, obv, re-signed) then Dex and Javi look a lot less like luxury picks.

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Bunit Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Wilmington, NC Casino cash: $10004900	[QUOTE=Reaper16;7003735]Mecca gets called out for "not enjoying the win" because he defends himself from a poster that, instead of enjoying the win, starts a thread so he can enjoy trolling? I don't want to be posting in this thread right now, but here I am because stupid shit is being said. That's why Mecca is in here too.[/QUOT I have not been here since the draft. What I remember is Mecca and other's killing the draft mainly because of the players that had a large impact in the win tonight. That is why dude started the thread, because of how extremely adamant they were about these being shitty picks. Feel me?
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