Whitlocks Gambling advice: Take the Browns minus-2

[Deberg_1990]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/c...hitlock-091610



Kansas City’s victory over the Chargers was a total fluke. Todd Haley and Scott Pioli refuse to showcase Jamaal Charles solely because Herm Edwards drafted him. KC’s front seven can’t pressure the quarterback. The rain and the sloppiness of Arrowhead Stadium’s grass stopped the Chargers. The Chiefs have no No. 1 receiver or quarterback

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic

Might as well get used to it. Whitlock is going to try and discredit any success the Chiefs have because of his bitterness toward Pioli.

/Thread over!

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by wutamess

Uh... What game were you watching? If it was perfect weather. we get our asses handed to us.

If the weather was perfect, maybe Hali gets a better jump.
If the weather was perfect Maybe Bowe doesn't drop passes.
IF, IF, IF, Maybe, Maybe.
We won the game with 68 yards passing FFS.
To say we would have been stomped is pure speculation. Not saying it wouldn't have happened but if, and maybe are pointless. We won.

[PunkinDrublic]

Originally Posted by wutamess

Uh... What game were you watching? If it was perfect weather. we get our asses handed to us.

What I meant to say was that toward the end of the game the rain had let up. Weather conditions were at some points in the game better than at other points. It wasn't just shitty conditions the whole time.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I picked up an SI in the Dr's office on Monday and the cover story was on RBs and how quickly they are burned out.

I can see both sides. With Charles, we have a bird in hand. We might as well use him while we know he's good.

However, he's so dynamic that using him up now rather than sparing him so that we can get 7 years of productivity instead of 3 seems a bit foolish, especially given the fact that we aren't yet a contender.

Great Post. We should use him of course. But giving him the ball 20-25 time a game at this juncture IS foolish IMO.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Let's say we draft a QB this Spring. . Ok, let's just say.

At best, we'd be two years away from making a legit push for a SB with a n00b, and that's if he's ****ing great from the start. Could be 3 years, most likely.

And Charles might be out of the league.

Use RBs when you have them because they don't last.

Oh, I agree the "drafting a QBOTF" horse is out of the barn, for the immediate future.

I don't think many people were screaming louder than me about having three top 5 picks in a row (something this team has NEVER had) and not taking a QB.

They still need to take one soon, but they have to find someone that can handle the duties well in the short term. I don't think that person is on this team right now, but hope like hell I am wrong.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

We're never going to win shit with that plan.

Let's save Brandon Flowers until we have a pass rush. We wouldn't want to use him up.

Brandon Flowers is not an undersized speed back with an injury history who gets hit by guys twice his size 20 times a game.

[wutamess]

Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic

What I meant to say was that toward the end of the game the rain had let up. Weather conditions were at some points in the game better than at other points. It wasn't just shitty conditions the whole time.

Dude... I see you've never thrown a wet football... That's one of the hardest things to do accurately, Let alone catch one.

Hence the drop by Nanee on the 3rd and long play he had to jump for Rivers floated a tad high from the wet ball.

Bowe's drop wasn't because of wet ball... that ball hit him hard as shit on the back shoulder. He should've caught it. Bad concentration not a slipped ball tho.

Like I said... we get our asses handed to us and Rivers possibly has 400 yds passing that game.

[suds79]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

Great Post. We should use him of course. But giving him the ball 20-25 time a game at this juncture IS foolish IMO.

How about just giving him at least 15 carries a game?

He got 11 last. Exact same as Thomas Jones and don't forget that Castille got some touches.

There's just no justifying that.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

If the weather was perfect, maybe Hali gets a better jump.
If the weather was perfect Maybe Bowe doesn't drop passes.
IF, IF, IF, Maybe, Maybe.
We won the game with 68 yards passing FFS.
To say we would have been stomped is pure speculation. Not saying it wouldn't have happened but if, and maybe are pointless. We won.

I agree with your overall point about the "if" game.

What we definitely know, however, is that we totaled about 200 yards of offense, while giving up over 400. Those aren't good odds.

Didn't matter last Monday, but this cannot remain the norm if this team is to have success.

[KCUnited]

Had to trump Wright's "informed speculation" that Pioli was behind the Thum resignation.

[wutamess]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

If the weather was perfect, maybe Hali gets a better jump.
If the weather was perfect Maybe Bowe doesn't drop passes.
IF, IF, IF, Maybe, Maybe.
We won the game with 68 yards passing FFS.
To say we would have been stomped is pure speculation. Not saying it wouldn't have happened but if, and maybe are pointless. We won.

River's gets rid of the ball as fast as Manning.
Bowe's drop was from lack of concentration. Not weather related.
We won because of the weather ST's and crowd... However ugly it was WE WON!

But weather was HUGE (most important) in the win.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I agree with your overall point about the "if" game.

What we definitely know, however, is that we totaled about 200 yards of offense, while giving up over 400. Those aren't good odds.

Didn't matter last Monday, but this cannot remain the norm if this team is to have success.

You wont win many games that way for sure.

We were on the opposite end of one of those games week 2 last year.

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

You wont win many games that way for sure.

We were on the opposite end of one of those games week 2 last year.

How many times during the DV years we would roll up 500 yards of offense and lose to a team that only had 200 or less....

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by wutamess

But weather was HUGE (most important) in the win.

So KC becomes more talented in the rain and SD becomes less talented in the rain?

Both teams play under the same conditions right?

Before it started pouring it was 7-7 correct?

Had KC lost a close one in those conditions and people here blamed it on the rain it would be blood bath.

[Bob Dole]

For ****'s sake, the guy (Charles) touched the ball on 24.489795918367346938775510204082% of the offensive plays. WTF do you want?