Whitlocks Gambling advice: Take the Browns minus-2

[Deberg_1990]

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Kansas City’s victory over the Chargers was a total fluke. Todd Haley and Scott Pioli refuse to showcase Jamaal Charles solely because Herm Edwards drafted him. KC’s front seven can’t pressure the quarterback. The rain and the sloppiness of Arrowhead Stadium’s grass stopped the Chargers. The Chiefs have no No. 1 receiver or quarterback

[Messier]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/c...hitlock-091610



The rain and the sloppiness of Arrowhead Stadium’s grass stopped the Chargers.

I hate this argument, because it's nuts. Both teams were playing in the rain. The Chiefs seem to be a team built for speed . That was helped by the rain how?

[milkman]

Originally Posted by wutamess

Dude... I see you've never thrown a wet football... That's one of the hardest things to do accurately, Let alone catch one.

Hence the drop by Nanee on the 3rd and long play he had to jump for Rivers floated a tad high from the wet ball.

Bowe's drop wasn't because of wet ball... that ball hit him hard as shit on the back shoulder. He should've caught it. Bad concentration not a slipped ball tho.

Like I said... we get our asses handed to us and Rivers possibly has 400 yds passing that game.

JFC

Bowe "dropped" that ball because he couldn't plant his feet and adjust to that throw.

He was sliding forward, and simply threw his hand back in an attempt to swipe it out of the air.

[Chiefaholic]

The Chiefs are not a playoff team right now. So why abuse the hell out of Charles this season? Let Thomas Jones get the majority of a 60-40 split right now. Then next season (when we hopefully have a respectable QB and O-Line), let Charles carry the load with TJ in 3rd and 1 and goalline situations. We NEED a healthy Charles when we're a legit playoff contender. I'de hate to finally get a solid line and respectable QB and have Charles be a fraction of what he used to be.

One thing I'de like to see this season is Mike Cox on the sideline, with Charles and Jones/McCluster in the backfield. Or even a little wildcat with all three back there....Jones up the gut and Charles and McCluster hitting both ends. That should drive opposing defenses nuts.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

I find it interesting, that you consider that Bowe's fault.

It looked un-catchable, by anything less than a circus catch to me. All three balls thrown to him that I remember, were that way.

He caught one, that was down very low, but the other two, he would have needed to be double jointed, throughout his body IMO.

Or maybe I am just full of shit, and am down on Cassel, but I don't recall him hitting anyone on the numbers, or in their wheel house.

The ball that wutadumbass is talking about here was actually a very well placed ball, which on a dry field, should have been caught.

But as I said, Bowe couldn't plant his feet and adjust.

Had he made that catch, given the conditions, it would have been outstanding.

[LaChapelle]

Charles deserves to be benched for not knowing where the 1st down marker was on 4th down
That's not acceptable when you need to keep the ball out of River's hands
luckly Rivers choked and saved his ass

[petegz28]

Hmmm, let's see...

It was raining its ass off, we were up by 2 touch downs going into half time.

Yea, let's have Cassel sling the ball over the field and run Charles out there every play so he can get the crap kicked out of him and maybe fumble, which is one of his few drawbacks..

That's a solid Whitlock game plan there!!!

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by milkman

The ball that wutadumbass is talking about here was actually a very well placed ball, which on a dry field, should have been caught.

But as I said, Bowe couldn't plant his feet and adjust.

Had he made that catch, given the conditions, it would have been outstanding.

That is a play though that Cassel and his WR's need to work on. Rivers and Jackson make a living off of the underthrown deep ball. Bowe has to know if the defender is in front of him to expect an underthrown pass and Cassel has to recognize such as well. The ball was well thrown, for once, and I agree conditions made it hard for Bowe to catch it but it was a catchable ball.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by petegz28

That is a play though that Cassel and his WR's need to work on. Rivers and Jackson make a living off of the underthrown deep ball. Bowe has to know if the defender is in front of him to expect an underthrown pass and Cassel has to recognize such as well. The ball was well thrown, for once, and I agree conditions made it hard for Bowe to catch it but it was a catchable ball.

Watch his feet.

He's slipping as he's trying to reach back to make that catch.

It's a great catch if he makes it, which makes calling it a drop ridiculous.

[wutamess]

Originally Posted by LaChapelle

Charles deserves to be benched for not knowing where the 1st down marker was on 4th down
That's not acceptable when you need to keep the ball out of River's hands
luckly Rivers choked and saved his ass

Again... were you watching the same fuggin game? You surely aren't talking about the play where the bum Cassle saw Charles late and his momentum carried him out of bounds? You're surely talking about another play.

Do you guys just watch the game or skim through it?

[wutamess]

Originally Posted by Chiefaholic

The Chiefs are not a playoff team right now. So why abuse the hell out of Charles this season? Let Thomas Jones get the majority of a 60-40 split right now. Then next season (when we hopefully have a respectable QB and O-Line), let Charles carry the load with TJ in 3rd and 1 and goalline situations. We NEED a healthy Charles when we're a legit playoff contender. I'de hate to finally get a solid line and respectable QB and have Charles be a fraction of what he used to be..

People fuggin kill me. The avg "good years" of a NFL RB is 3-4 years... WTF are we saving Charles for? What's to say we "save" him and 1st carry next year we "unprotect" him and he's injured?

RIDE the fugg outta him like TN does CJ.
The way I see it... Cassle will prevent us from fielding any kind of legitimate offensive juggernaut.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by wutamess

Again... were you watching the same fuggin game? You surely aren't talking about the play where the bum Cassle saw Charles late and his momentum carried him out of bounds? You're surely talking about another play.

Do you guys just watch the game or skim through it?

No, Charles ran his route short of the marker.

Casssel may have seen him late, but if Charles is aware of where the marker is and runs his route accordingly, the fact that his momentum carried him out of bounds doesn't matter.

That was a piss poor route run by Charles.

[wutamess]

Originally Posted by milkman

The ball that wutadumbass is talking about here was actually a very well placed ball, which on a dry field, should have been caught.

But as I said, Bowe couldn't plant his feet and adjust.

Had he made that catch, given the conditions, it would have been outstanding.

Outstanding my ass... it hit him in the arm. A high schooler could've made an adjustment and caught that ball.

[wutamess]

Originally Posted by milkman

No, Charles ran his route short of the marker.

Casssel may have seen him late, but if Charles is aware of where the marker is and runs his route accordingly, the fact that his momentum carried him out of bounds doesn't matter.

That was a piss poor route run by Charles.

You're actually right but if dumbass hit him early enuf he had plenty of room to turn it up field.
Maybe his route is only called for a 5 yard crossing pattern.
That's clearly Cassle's fault as JC was wide open the entire time.

[LaChapelle]

IF Haley and Pioli don't want Charles as Fatlock suggests
He will be benched because that is Haley's MO
but you know damn well they won't bench him

[wasi]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Bowe has to know that as long as Cassel is the QB to expect an underthrown pass

FYP