Nick Wright: Chiefs in danger of "losing" Charles

[Coogs]

[QUOTE=Calitozoni;7025185]

Originally Posted by Coogs

I saw this one comming. Check out post #45



If this happens I hope BCD shits on Pioli's desk as he promised.

What if that pick is parlayed into getting a franchise QB to go along with the rest of the pieces that are being assembled into a pretty decent team? Make no mistake about it McCluster is a damn good RB. Charles is too. But there isn't room for two of the same type back, and McCluster is the one Pioli brought in and Charles is the one Herm brought in. Just sayin'.

[Calitozoni]

Originally Posted by Coogs

What if that pick is parlayed into getting a franchise QB to go along with the rest of the pieces that are being assembled into a pretty decent team? Make no mistake about it McCluster is a damn good RB. Charles is too. But there isn't room for two of the same type back, and McCluster is the one Pioli brought in and Charles is the one Herm brought in. Just sayin'.

Interesting point, but it shouldn't matter who brought whom in. I think the better back should be playing. JC is proven. McCluster isn't. Seems a bit premature to dump JC in favor of DMC.

Also, if the motive in taking DMC was to replace JC, that seems like a wasted pick to me. What is the point of drafting a position that was already adequately filled when we have so many holes elsewhere?

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Calitozoni

Interesting point, but it shouldn't matter who brought whom in. I think the better back should be playing. JC is proven. McCluster isn't. Seems a bit premature to dump JC in favor of DMC.

Also, if the motive in taking DMC was to replace JC, that seems like a wasted pick to me. What is the point of drafting a position that was already adequately filled when we have so many holes elsewhere?

Don't mind him. Coogs probably had a little too much of "grandpa's cough syrup" before his trade extravaganzas popped into his head

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by Calitozoni

Interesting point, but it shouldn't matter who brought whom in. I think the better back should be playing. JC is proven. McCluster isn't. Seems a bit premature to dump JC in favor of DMC.

Also, if the motive in taking DMC was to replace JC, that seems like a wasted pick to me. What is the point of drafting a position that was already adequately filled when we have so many holes elsewhere?

I would not doubt that DMC was originally brought in to be the slot receiver. When he was at Ole Miss, they played him at receiver for the first 5 or 6 games of the year last year before they moved him back to the RB position. I don't know if I can find the quote, but I am sure I read Houston Nutt commented that he should have never taken him off of the RB spot. I wonder if the Chiefs are finding out the same thing?

In any event, McCluster is one hell of a good RB. Heck, we saw some great runs out of him in preseason. And he had some unbelievable runs at Ole Miss.

And don't get me wrong, I love Charles. I just don't think the brass at Arrowhead will leave their high 2nd round pick in the shed any longer than they have to.

And I am not really saying the Chiefs should trade Charles. But something is just not adding up at the RB spot when the 2nd best RB in the NFL can not get on the field... or that we even needed to bring in 2 legit guys at that same position. Jones isn't going anywhere, and neither is McCluster. Odd man out is... Charles.

[Calitozoni]

Originally Posted by Coogs

I would not doubt that DMC was originally brought in to be the slot receiver. When he was at Ole Miss, they played him at receiver for the first 5 or 6 games of the year last year before they moved him back to the RB position. I don't know if I can find the quote, but I am sure I read Houston Nutt commented that he should have never taken him off of the RB spot. I wonder if the Chiefs are finding out the same thing?

In any event, McCluster is one hell of a good RB. Heck, we saw some great runs out of him in preseason. And he had some unbelievable runs at Ole Miss.

And don't get me wrong, I love Charles. I just don't think the brass at Arrowhead will leave their high 2nd round pick in the shed any longer than they have to.

And I am not really saying the Chiefs should trade Charles. But something is just not adding up at the RB spot when the 2nd best RB in the NFL can not get on the field... or that we even needed to bring in 2 legit guys at that same position. Jones isn't going anywhere, and neither is McCluster. Odd man out is... Charles.

Yea. I heard Houston's comment too. He did lament not moving McCluster to RB earlier.

I know he is, and potentially can be, a good RB. However, if DMC either was targeted for the RB spot (which is not what was advertised on draft day) or has evolved to make Charles the odd man out (hard to believe since DMC has had very few carries so far), then the Chiefs dropped the ball on Charles' value. If in fact he was/is the odd man out, his value would have never been higher than coming of last season's incredible second half and should have been traded (which I would not have been in favor of). If he is going to be kept on the roster, how can you justify not putting him on the field with the explosiveness he brings to the table?

There has got to be more to this story than Thomas beating out JC for the starting job. Thomas was elevated to number 1 on the depth chart before 2 weeks of camp had gone by. They hadn't even played in a preseason game at the time of that announcement. This is no slight on Thomas. I know he is a good back, but he is 32 and faded badly at the end of last season. How much mileage could be left? Why would you invest so much in somebody that likely isn't going to be around as long as a young Charles and is far less explosive?

The other mystery is Haley evades the question of Charles' play like the plague. When asked if he thought Charles was getting enough touches he answered the question by asking what their record was. What a cop out. Answering a question with a question is not an answer. If there is a difference between the players ability, why not simply answer the question? If you're going to hold these pressers and just rattle off cliches, save your breath and cancel them. Don't waste everybody's time. I was actually a little miffed that the reporter asking the question let Haley get away with that. As a paying fan, I wanted to know. But it's obvious that this will continue to be a mystery until either Haley or Charles leave the Chiefs. I don't think Charles will beef in public. He seems like a team first guy, which makes this even more of a head scratcher.