Chiefs Reflections on a Rat****ing - Page 7

'Hamas' Jenkins · 10-17-2010, 02:24 PM

But not by the refs

First, I’m going to bet that about 2000 people blamed Carr on that final catch. If you watch, you’ll notice that he was covering Daniels in the short zone. If he would have inexplicably floated to the back pylon before the throw, Schaub has a wide open Daniels walking into the EZ and the result is the same. Don’t blame Carr. With that said, Romeo should have locked Flowers on Johnson for the entirety of that drive and not had us play zone in that situation. Berry was in the area too, but that was a schoolyard play, and those are the hardest to defend.

Cassel really ****ed us on the last drive. He was near the money all game, and when he had Bowe and Horne wide open, he badly misfired on both, which made us need a Hail Mary for any shot. Oh, and that 3^rd and 2 call was there, but Cassel made an awful throw to Moeaki. He really screwed the pooch when we needed him the most, and that’s the difference between a franchise QB and Matt Cassel.

I think we had more missed tackles today than every other game this season combined. Playing good offenses will tend to make that happen, but there were some really bad plays on D today. On Ward’s run, I counted six missed
tackles.

I know Donald Washington is a n00b FS, but he looked lost in coverage several times, and missed a couple of key tackles, one on the Ward run, and another on Jones™ catch late in the third, where he totally took himself
out of coverage, recovered after the catch, and then blew the stop.

Cassel’s first TD to Bowe was a great throw and catch. The other two TDs were phenomenal plays by the receivers. Vrabel’s was obviously way behind him, and Bowe went SD 2007 on the Texans on his second TD.

If you are going to take something from Bowe’s performance today, it should be how he responded to adversity. I hope that the people who wanted him run out of town today feel a little foolish, because he is still a game
changing receiving weapon, and he made a number of very difficult catches. He made 3 really good grabs today, and another circus catch that would have been a top 10 highlight had Cassel not lead him out of bounds.

The running game was nails today. Charles started slow and then really picked it up. More than anything, he was much harder to take down today than he was last week, and Jones looked a hell of a lot quicker than he had the
previous two games. And Charles had the greatest 7 yard run in football history.

It’s becoming more and more apparent that the coaches do not trust Cassel whatsoever. Delay of game coming off of a timeout should be a capital offense for a QB. JFC.We were afraid to pass on the first drive, and unless we are in 3rd and 8+ or in a 2 minute drill, we aren’t attempting to throw downfield at all. However, the throw he made to Moeaki on 3rd and 7 was exactly where it needed to be.

Brandon Flowers may be the most complete corner in the NFL today. The PI call on him was obviously horrendous, but if it’s a no-call, Johnson makes the catch anyway. The elbow in the back was a foul, but it’s not normally one that is called. That said, if you’re throwing a flag there, how do you not throw it on Johnson?

DJ missed a couple of tackles today, but he was still all over the place. He played with a shitload of heart, and his athleticism—landing on your feet when getting flipped by an OL—was amazing. Belcher had a less impressive game.

Gilberry was absolutely abused today. He generated no pressure in the passing game, and on running downs he got blown up or taken out by a single blocker nearly every time.

The biggest thing that we need to take away from this game is that we have one outside receiving threat and nothing else, one pass rusher and nothing else, and no QB. Danario Alexander, a guy who many of us pined for and the Rams got off the street in August stepped in today and had 4 catches for 72 yards and a touchdown.

That’s a really tough loss, but I’m proud of the fire that Flowers showed. The guy isn’t a paycheck player. Also, Haley did a masterful job of managing the emotions of the team and the game. Ultimately, our inability to generate pressure on Schaub is why we lost. Vrabel and Studebaker aren’t nearly good enough.

KC kid · 10-17-2010, 04:11 PM

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Seems like it is tough to win games when you give up 21 points in the 4th. It is not like the Chiefs were scoreless either

**Smed1065** · 10-17-2010, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

This x1000.

We shouldn't expect dogshit quarterbacks to win shootouts like today's.

Or say that a defense is rested after losing 3 quarters.

So they will be great.

Hammock Parties · 10-17-2010, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by KC kid

I am surprised some of the people on here (those blaming Cassel) are even smart enough to set up their home networks to get online.

This isn't hard, dude.

Cassel makes 15 million ****ing dollars this year.

He had a chance to basically end the game with one throw.

He ****in' blew it.

And regardless of the chances of a comeback with 28 seconds left, his shit passing on the final drive only showcases his well-documented shittiness.

crazycoffey · 10-17-2010, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by KC kid

Seems like it is tough to win games when you give up 21 points in the 4th. It is not like the Chiefs were scoreless either

hmmm, interesting. So it's all the defense's fault, when in the second half the offense couldn't move the ball anymore?

keg in kc · 10-17-2010, 04:13 PM

Did we miss Chambers at all today? Is it possible we're better with McCluster on the field on an every-down basis?

**Smed1065** · 10-17-2010, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

This isn't hard, dude.

Cassel makes 15 million ****ing dollars this year.

He had a chance to basically end the game with one throw.

He ****in' blew it.

And regardless of the chances of a comeback with 28 seconds left, his shit passing on the final drive only showcases his well-documented shittiness.

Yes we pay the defense like a $100 a year.

Oh take the money reason. Top how many picks on defense?

Can you become a charger fan? You are a dumb ass and TG for your videos. Would be banned otherwise.

**Smed1065** · 10-17-2010, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyCoffey

hmmm, interesting. So it's all the defense's fault, when in the second half the offense couldn't move the ball anymore?

Just saying all year its been the defense for wins.

I mean a 21 point lead in the 4th is a defense problem.

No?

KC kid · 10-17-2010, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

This isn't hard, dude.

Cassel makes 15 million ****ing dollars this year.

He had a chance to basically end the game with one throw.

He ****in' blew it.

And regardless of the chances of a comeback with 28 seconds left, his shit passing on the final drive only showcases his well-documented shittiness.

You blame the last hail mary on Cassel? Your answer tells me all I need to know about whether Cassel even has a chance or you have predetermined where the blame will go.

**Ming the Merciless** · 10-17-2010, 04:19 PM

I think gochiefs might be drunk right now, I don't usually see him like this.

**dirk digler** · 10-17-2010, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-h...ans-highlights

1:45

Cassel definitely overthrows Moeaki.

And look at Bowe. He's open. More open than Moeaki. There's no safety, everyone was down in the box.

Doubly whammy on Casshole.

After looking at the play he should have went to Bowe but the play was designed for Moeki as they were trying to sneak him out on the backside. But that throw was probably a 30 yd throw going right to left and Wilson was right there to break it up.

It just reinforces in my mind that was a stupid play call

Hammock Parties · 10-17-2010, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by KC kid

You blame the last hail mary on Cassel? Your answer tells me all I need to know about whether Cassel even has a chance or you have predetermined where the blame will go.

Please, please try to understand. I'm talking about his overthrow to Moeaki.

KC kid · 10-17-2010, 04:20 PM

Cassel haters have no logic. . . they just hate. Think of how much money all the first round picks on the chiefs' D make. . . then tell me about how much Cassel makes.

crazycoffey · 10-17-2010, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Smed1065

Just saying all year its been the defense for wins.

I mean a 21 point lead in the 4th is a defense problem.

No?

just making an argument that offense could've held the ball longer and taking time off the clock so there's not even a chance for Houston to score three times.

No?

**Ming the Merciless** · 10-17-2010, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyCoffey

hmmm, interesting. So it's all the defense's fault, when in the second half the offense couldn't move the ball anymore?

I wouldn't say ALL, but the majority of the blame does lie with them. The vast majority for the blame of this loss. 30 points and a pretty big lead towards the end of the game....They allowed 4 TD's in a row. You don't think the majority of the blame lies with the D on this one?

KC kid · 10-17-2010, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Please, please try to understand. I'm talking about his overthrow to Moeaki.

Moeaki wasn't open. I would listen to an argument that he threw to the wrong place, but the throw itself was not an issue.

10-17-2010, 02:24 PM
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7169572	Reflections on a Rating But not by the refs First, I’m going to bet that about 2000 people blamed Carr on that final catch. If you watch, you’ll notice that he was covering Daniels in the short zone. If he would have inexplicably floated to the back pylon before the throw, Schaub has a wide open Daniels walking into the EZ and the result is the same. Don’t blame Carr. With that said, Romeo should have locked Flowers on Johnson for the entirety of that drive and not had us play zone in that situation. Berry was in the area too, but that was a schoolyard play, and those are the hardest to defend. Cassel really ****ed us on the last drive. He was near the money all game, and when he had Bowe and Horne wide open, he badly misfired on both, which made us need a Hail Mary for any shot. Oh, and that 3^rd and 2 call was there, but Cassel made an awful throw to Moeaki. He really screwed the pooch when we needed him the most, and that’s the difference between a franchise QB and Matt Cassel. I think we had more missed tackles today than every other game this season combined. Playing good offenses will tend to make that happen, but there were some really bad plays on D today. On Ward’s run, I counted six missed tackles. I know Donald Washington is a n00b FS, but he looked lost in coverage several times, and missed a couple of key tackles, one on the Ward run, and another on Jones™ catch late in the third, where he totally took himself out of coverage, recovered after the catch, and then blew the stop. Cassel’s first TD to Bowe was a great throw and catch. The other two TDs were phenomenal plays by the receivers. Vrabel’s was obviously way behind him, and Bowe went SD 2007 on the Texans on his second TD. If you are going to take something from Bowe’s performance today, it should be how he responded to adversity. I hope that the people who wanted him run out of town today feel a little foolish, because he is still a game changing receiving weapon, and he made a number of very difficult catches. He made 3 really good grabs today, and another circus catch that would have been a top 10 highlight had Cassel not lead him out of bounds. The running game was nails today. Charles started slow and then really picked it up. More than anything, he was much harder to take down today than he was last week, and Jones looked a hell of a lot quicker than he had the previous two games. And Charles had the greatest 7 yard run in football history. It’s becoming more and more apparent that the coaches do not trust Cassel whatsoever. Delay of game coming off of a timeout should be a capital offense for a QB. JFC.We were afraid to pass on the first drive, and unless we are in 3rd and 8+ or in a 2 minute drill, we aren’t attempting to throw downfield at all. However, the throw he made to Moeaki on 3rd and 7 was exactly where it needed to be. Brandon Flowers may be the most complete corner in the NFL today. The PI call on him was obviously horrendous, but if it’s a no-call, Johnson makes the catch anyway. The elbow in the back was a foul, but it’s not normally one that is called. That said, if you’re throwing a flag there, how do you not throw it on Johnson? DJ missed a couple of tackles today, but he was still all over the place. He played with a shitload of heart, and his athleticism—landing on your feet when getting flipped by an OL—was amazing. Belcher had a less impressive game. Gilberry was absolutely abused today. He generated no pressure in the passing game, and on running downs he got blown up or taken out by a single blocker nearly every time. The biggest thing that we need to take away from this game is that we have one outside receiving threat and nothing else, one pass rusher and nothing else, and no QB. Danario Alexander, a guy who many of us pined for and the Rams got off the street in August stepped in today and had 4 catches for 72 yards and a touchdown. That’s a really tough loss, but I’m proud of the fire that Flowers showed. The guy isn’t a paycheck player. Also, Haley did a masterful job of managing the emotions of the team and the game. Ultimately, our inability to generate pressure on Schaub is why we lost. Vrabel and Studebaker aren’t nearly good enough.
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