Chiefs Reflections on a Rat****ing - Page 12

'Hamas' Jenkins · 10-17-2010, 02:24 PM

But not by the refs

First, I’m going to bet that about 2000 people blamed Carr on that final catch. If you watch, you’ll notice that he was covering Daniels in the short zone. If he would have inexplicably floated to the back pylon before the throw, Schaub has a wide open Daniels walking into the EZ and the result is the same. Don’t blame Carr. With that said, Romeo should have locked Flowers on Johnson for the entirety of that drive and not had us play zone in that situation. Berry was in the area too, but that was a schoolyard play, and those are the hardest to defend.

Cassel really ****ed us on the last drive. He was near the money all game, and when he had Bowe and Horne wide open, he badly misfired on both, which made us need a Hail Mary for any shot. Oh, and that 3^rd and 2 call was there, but Cassel made an awful throw to Moeaki. He really screwed the pooch when we needed him the most, and that’s the difference between a franchise QB and Matt Cassel.

I think we had more missed tackles today than every other game this season combined. Playing good offenses will tend to make that happen, but there were some really bad plays on D today. On Ward’s run, I counted six missed
tackles.

I know Donald Washington is a n00b FS, but he looked lost in coverage several times, and missed a couple of key tackles, one on the Ward run, and another on Jones™ catch late in the third, where he totally took himself
out of coverage, recovered after the catch, and then blew the stop.

Cassel’s first TD to Bowe was a great throw and catch. The other two TDs were phenomenal plays by the receivers. Vrabel’s was obviously way behind him, and Bowe went SD 2007 on the Texans on his second TD.

If you are going to take something from Bowe’s performance today, it should be how he responded to adversity. I hope that the people who wanted him run out of town today feel a little foolish, because he is still a game
changing receiving weapon, and he made a number of very difficult catches. He made 3 really good grabs today, and another circus catch that would have been a top 10 highlight had Cassel not lead him out of bounds.

The running game was nails today. Charles started slow and then really picked it up. More than anything, he was much harder to take down today than he was last week, and Jones looked a hell of a lot quicker than he had the
previous two games. And Charles had the greatest 7 yard run in football history.

It’s becoming more and more apparent that the coaches do not trust Cassel whatsoever. Delay of game coming off of a timeout should be a capital offense for a QB. JFC.We were afraid to pass on the first drive, and unless we are in 3rd and 8+ or in a 2 minute drill, we aren’t attempting to throw downfield at all. However, the throw he made to Moeaki on 3rd and 7 was exactly where it needed to be.

Brandon Flowers may be the most complete corner in the NFL today. The PI call on him was obviously horrendous, but if it’s a no-call, Johnson makes the catch anyway. The elbow in the back was a foul, but it’s not normally one that is called. That said, if you’re throwing a flag there, how do you not throw it on Johnson?

DJ missed a couple of tackles today, but he was still all over the place. He played with a shitload of heart, and his athleticism—landing on your feet when getting flipped by an OL—was amazing. Belcher had a less impressive game.

Gilberry was absolutely abused today. He generated no pressure in the passing game, and on running downs he got blown up or taken out by a single blocker nearly every time.

The biggest thing that we need to take away from this game is that we have one outside receiving threat and nothing else, one pass rusher and nothing else, and no QB. Danario Alexander, a guy who many of us pined for and the Rams got off the street in August stepped in today and had 4 catches for 72 yards and a touchdown.

That’s a really tough loss, but I’m proud of the fire that Flowers showed. The guy isn’t a paycheck player. Also, Haley did a masterful job of managing the emotions of the team and the game. Ultimately, our inability to generate pressure on Schaub is why we lost. Vrabel and Studebaker aren’t nearly good enough.

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-17-2010, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KC kid

I am surprised some of the people on here (those blaming Cassel) are even smart enough to set up their home networks to get online.

The more you post, the more you look like a moron.

Titty Meat · 10-17-2010, 05:27 PM

So Cassel gets blame but what about the ****ing defense do all those guys get a pass? This place has became comical it's back to trolling for this guy. Once Houston scored the game was over doesn't matter if it was Matt Cassel or Tom Brady.

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-17-2010, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by billay

He shit the bed on the final drive that had a 5% chance of working?

Why don't you focus on the defense where we have a million first round picks who gave up 4 straight touchdowns? Eric Berry especially has looked lost in Red Zone coverage.

Yes. The D was balls today. It was one of those games. The QB is expected you make plays when it matters. He had a chance to put the game away and failed.

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-17-2010, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by billay

So Cassel gets blame but what about the ****ing defense do all those guys get a pass? This place has became comical it's back to trolling for this guy. Once Houston scored the game was over doesn't matter if it was Matt Cassel or Tom Brady.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-17-2010, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by billay

Once Houston scored the game was over doesn't matter if it was Matt Cassel or Tom Brady.

Untrue.

milkman · 10-17-2010, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by billay

So Cassel gets blame but what about the ****ing defense do all those guys get a pass? This place has became comical it's back to trolling for this guy. Once Houston scored the game was over doesn't matter if it was Matt Cassel or Tom Brady.

There are only a couple of people placing the blame for this loss on Cassel.

This loss was just a team effort, especially on the defensive side of the ball.

Most of us discussing Cassel here are simply pointing to a couple of plays that illustrate the difference between Cassel and a franchise QB.

The defense dropped the ball today.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-17-2010, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by billay

He shit the bed on the final drive that had a 5% chance of working?

Why don't you focus on the defense where we have a million first round picks who gave up 4 straight touchdowns? Eric Berry especially has looked lost in Red Zone coverage.

Who gives a **** about the percentages?

He's paid $15 million dollars a year to WIN ****ING GAMES.

Not shit the bed.

****KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!

Titty Meat · 10-17-2010, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Untrue.

Name me a game in Bradys career where he's came back and scored a TD with 1 timeout and 28 seconds left.

Titty Meat · 10-17-2010, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BCD

Yes. The D was balls today. It was one of those games. The QB is expected you make plays when it matters. He had a chance to put the game away and failed.

So the 4th down plays Cassel didn't make a play? All those 3rd downs they converted he didn't make a play?

milkman · 10-17-2010, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Untrue.

There are QBs that can lead teams to wins in these situations, but even they wouldn't, or shouldn't, be expected to make the kind of game winning drive you are suggesting that they should.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-17-2010, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by billay

Name me a game in Bradys career where he's came back and scored a TD with 1 timeout and 28 seconds left.

WHO GIVES A ****?

He's paid $15 million a ****ING YEAR!

He shouldn't ****ing shit the bed, overthrow wide open receivers and take a ****ing sack on the last play.

Titty Meat · 10-17-2010, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BCD

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Again name a time when Brady scored a Touchdown with 28 seconds left and had 1 timeout.

KC kid · 10-17-2010, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

There are only a couple of people placing the blame for this loss on Cassel.

This loss was just a team effort, especially on the defensive side of the ball.

Most of us discussing Cassel here are simply pointing to a couple of plays that illustrate the difference between Cassel and a franchise QB.

The defense dropped the ball today.

I agree with your posts 95 percent of the time

Titty Meat · 10-17-2010, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

WHO GIVES A ****?

He's paid $15 million a ****ING YEAR!

He shouldn't ****ing shit the bed, overthrow wide open receivers and take a ****ing sack on the last play.

HE SHOULD HAVE STIFFED AFRMED THE UNBLOCKED RUSHER AT THE END AND THREW A LASER FOR A TOUCHDOWN!!!!1!!!

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-17-2010, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

There are QBs that can lead teams to wins in these situations, but even they wouldn't, or shouldn't, be expected to make the kind of game winning drive you are suggesting that they should.

As I said earlier, I didn't expect Cassel to win the game but I did expect him not the shit the bed by overthrowing wide open receivers.

He couldn't even put the team in a position to win and that's a bad sign.

10-17-2010, 02:24 PM
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7239572	Reflections on a Rating But not by the refs First, I’m going to bet that about 2000 people blamed Carr on that final catch. If you watch, you’ll notice that he was covering Daniels in the short zone. If he would have inexplicably floated to the back pylon before the throw, Schaub has a wide open Daniels walking into the EZ and the result is the same. Don’t blame Carr. With that said, Romeo should have locked Flowers on Johnson for the entirety of that drive and not had us play zone in that situation. Berry was in the area too, but that was a schoolyard play, and those are the hardest to defend. Cassel really ****ed us on the last drive. He was near the money all game, and when he had Bowe and Horne wide open, he badly misfired on both, which made us need a Hail Mary for any shot. Oh, and that 3^rd and 2 call was there, but Cassel made an awful throw to Moeaki. He really screwed the pooch when we needed him the most, and that’s the difference between a franchise QB and Matt Cassel. I think we had more missed tackles today than every other game this season combined. Playing good offenses will tend to make that happen, but there were some really bad plays on D today. On Ward’s run, I counted six missed tackles. I know Donald Washington is a n00b FS, but he looked lost in coverage several times, and missed a couple of key tackles, one on the Ward run, and another on Jones™ catch late in the third, where he totally took himself out of coverage, recovered after the catch, and then blew the stop. Cassel’s first TD to Bowe was a great throw and catch. The other two TDs were phenomenal plays by the receivers. Vrabel’s was obviously way behind him, and Bowe went SD 2007 on the Texans on his second TD. If you are going to take something from Bowe’s performance today, it should be how he responded to adversity. I hope that the people who wanted him run out of town today feel a little foolish, because he is still a game changing receiving weapon, and he made a number of very difficult catches. He made 3 really good grabs today, and another circus catch that would have been a top 10 highlight had Cassel not lead him out of bounds. The running game was nails today. Charles started slow and then really picked it up. More than anything, he was much harder to take down today than he was last week, and Jones looked a hell of a lot quicker than he had the previous two games. And Charles had the greatest 7 yard run in football history. It’s becoming more and more apparent that the coaches do not trust Cassel whatsoever. Delay of game coming off of a timeout should be a capital offense for a QB. JFC.We were afraid to pass on the first drive, and unless we are in 3rd and 8+ or in a 2 minute drill, we aren’t attempting to throw downfield at all. However, the throw he made to Moeaki on 3rd and 7 was exactly where it needed to be. Brandon Flowers may be the most complete corner in the NFL today. The PI call on him was obviously horrendous, but if it’s a no-call, Johnson makes the catch anyway. The elbow in the back was a foul, but it’s not normally one that is called. That said, if you’re throwing a flag there, how do you not throw it on Johnson? DJ missed a couple of tackles today, but he was still all over the place. He played with a shitload of heart, and his athleticism—landing on your feet when getting flipped by an OL—was amazing. Belcher had a less impressive game. Gilberry was absolutely abused today. He generated no pressure in the passing game, and on running downs he got blown up or taken out by a single blocker nearly every time. The biggest thing that we need to take away from this game is that we have one outside receiving threat and nothing else, one pass rusher and nothing else, and no QB. Danario Alexander, a guy who many of us pined for and the Rams got off the street in August stepped in today and had 4 catches for 72 yards and a touchdown. That’s a really tough loss, but I’m proud of the fire that Flowers showed. The guy isn’t a paycheck player. Also, Haley did a masterful job of managing the emotions of the team and the game. Ultimately, our inability to generate pressure on Schaub is why we lost. Vrabel and Studebaker aren’t nearly good enough.
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