Chiefs Reflections on a Rat****ing - Page 15

'Hamas' Jenkins · 10-17-2010, 02:24 PM

But not by the refs

First, I’m going to bet that about 2000 people blamed Carr on that final catch. If you watch, you’ll notice that he was covering Daniels in the short zone. If he would have inexplicably floated to the back pylon before the throw, Schaub has a wide open Daniels walking into the EZ and the result is the same. Don’t blame Carr. With that said, Romeo should have locked Flowers on Johnson for the entirety of that drive and not had us play zone in that situation. Berry was in the area too, but that was a schoolyard play, and those are the hardest to defend.

Cassel really ****ed us on the last drive. He was near the money all game, and when he had Bowe and Horne wide open, he badly misfired on both, which made us need a Hail Mary for any shot. Oh, and that 3^rd and 2 call was there, but Cassel made an awful throw to Moeaki. He really screwed the pooch when we needed him the most, and that’s the difference between a franchise QB and Matt Cassel.

I think we had more missed tackles today than every other game this season combined. Playing good offenses will tend to make that happen, but there were some really bad plays on D today. On Ward’s run, I counted six missed
tackles.

I know Donald Washington is a n00b FS, but he looked lost in coverage several times, and missed a couple of key tackles, one on the Ward run, and another on Jones™ catch late in the third, where he totally took himself
out of coverage, recovered after the catch, and then blew the stop.

Cassel’s first TD to Bowe was a great throw and catch. The other two TDs were phenomenal plays by the receivers. Vrabel’s was obviously way behind him, and Bowe went SD 2007 on the Texans on his second TD.

If you are going to take something from Bowe’s performance today, it should be how he responded to adversity. I hope that the people who wanted him run out of town today feel a little foolish, because he is still a game
changing receiving weapon, and he made a number of very difficult catches. He made 3 really good grabs today, and another circus catch that would have been a top 10 highlight had Cassel not lead him out of bounds.

The running game was nails today. Charles started slow and then really picked it up. More than anything, he was much harder to take down today than he was last week, and Jones looked a hell of a lot quicker than he had the
previous two games. And Charles had the greatest 7 yard run in football history.

It’s becoming more and more apparent that the coaches do not trust Cassel whatsoever. Delay of game coming off of a timeout should be a capital offense for a QB. JFC.We were afraid to pass on the first drive, and unless we are in 3rd and 8+ or in a 2 minute drill, we aren’t attempting to throw downfield at all. However, the throw he made to Moeaki on 3rd and 7 was exactly where it needed to be.

Brandon Flowers may be the most complete corner in the NFL today. The PI call on him was obviously horrendous, but if it’s a no-call, Johnson makes the catch anyway. The elbow in the back was a foul, but it’s not normally one that is called. That said, if you’re throwing a flag there, how do you not throw it on Johnson?

DJ missed a couple of tackles today, but he was still all over the place. He played with a shitload of heart, and his athleticism—landing on your feet when getting flipped by an OL—was amazing. Belcher had a less impressive game.

Gilberry was absolutely abused today. He generated no pressure in the passing game, and on running downs he got blown up or taken out by a single blocker nearly every time.

The biggest thing that we need to take away from this game is that we have one outside receiving threat and nothing else, one pass rusher and nothing else, and no QB. Danario Alexander, a guy who many of us pined for and the Rams got off the street in August stepped in today and had 4 catches for 72 yards and a touchdown.

That’s a really tough loss, but I’m proud of the fire that Flowers showed. The guy isn’t a paycheck player. Also, Haley did a masterful job of managing the emotions of the team and the game. Ultimately, our inability to generate pressure on Schaub is why we lost. Vrabel and Studebaker aren’t nearly good enough.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-17-2010, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

You're right. He should have.

I don't think it's unrealistic for a defense to hold a lead, but that's just me.

I'm not surprised that the defense had problems today.

Kendrick Lewis, Tyson Jackson and Alex Magee were inactive, leaving the Chiefs thin at defensive end and NT, along with forcing them to use Washington at safety.

Plus, Houston has been a Top Five offensive team for years, so it's unsurprising that they were able to come back.

But with that said, none of it affects Cassel's inability to complete a pass to wide open receivers with the game on the line.

keg in kc · 10-17-2010, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I agree.

I also agree with those that claim that if the offense had done their job in the 4 minute drill, the defense wouldn't have been put in a position to potentially fail.

There's plenty of blame to go around, on both sides of the ball and on the coaching staff.

Oh come on, man, we can't talk about more than one thing at a time. Black and white, either/or, no shades of gray allowed. It taxes our poor neurons.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-17-2010, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Oh come on, man, we can't talk about more than one thing at a time. Black and white, either/or, no shades of gray allowed. It taxes our poor neurons.

**DeezNutz** · 10-17-2010, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I'm not surprised that the defense had problems today.

Kendrick Lewis, Tyson Jackson and Alex Magee were inactive, leaving the Chiefs thin at defensive end and NT, along with forcing them to use Washington at safety.

Plus, Houston has been a Top Five offensive team for years, so it's unsurprising that they were able to come back.

But with that said, none of it affects Cassel's inability to complete a pass to wide open receivers with the game on the line.

I think this hardly mattered. By all reports, he's damn lucky even to have a roster spot.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad · 10-17-2010, 06:48 PM

I was at the game...unfortunately

Horne ran a poor, lazy route and it cost him. Moeaki was well covered. After all the third down conversions, I was hopeful...but it just wasn't there.

Berry looked bad

stevieray · 10-17-2010, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

The offense's job was to grind down the clock and end the game in the victory formation.

They failed.

ya, because that's exactly how every game ends...in the victory formation.

the offense outscored an explosive offense for the majority of that game. if anything the defnse put the offense at a disadvantage, not the other way around. they gave up one huge gain after the other..that's not on the offense.

one defensive stop out of four CONSECUTIVE scoring drives, that game is over...

FAX · 10-17-2010, 06:57 PM

This is actually my worst fear regarding Mitch Casswipe ... that he'll play just "good enough" to keep his job. He was more Doody than Howdy today ... particularly on critical snaps.

If we didn't have the kind of quality running backs we have, we wouldn't have much in terms of offense. His tendency to panic and freak out reared its bloody head today once again. Sometimes he looks like a little girl who's seen a rat back there.

FAX

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-17-2010, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

ya, because that's exactly how every game ends...in the victory formation.

the offense outscored an explosive offense for the majority of that game. if anything the defnse put the offense at a disadvantage, not the other way around. they gave up one huge gain after the other..that's not on the offense.

one defensive stop out of four CONSECUTIVE scoring drives, that game is over...

Looks like my guess was spot on.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-17-2010, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I think this hardly mattered. By all reports, he's damn lucky even to have a roster spot.

I only think it mattered in respect to giving guys a rest from time to time.

I hated the fact they substituted Hali with Studebaker when it was Vrabel that should've taken a seat.

The bottom line is that even though the defense had their worst outing of the season, the Chiefs were in a position to win the game in the fourth quarter.

That is, until Cassel shit himself.

keg in kc · 10-17-2010, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

ya, because that's exactly how every game ends...in the victory formation.

the offense outscored an explosive offense for the majority of that game. if anything the defnse put the offense at a disadvantage, not the other way around. they gave up one huge gain after the other..that's not on the offense.

one defensive stop out of four CONSECUTIVE scoring drives, that game is over...

Yeah, Houston's defense just killed their offense. I can't believe how much of a disadvantage those poor guys were after their _efense gave up 225+ yards rushing and 31 points.

The difference between Houston and KC today?

Our Matt was named Cassel. Their Matt was named Schaub.

**DeezNutz** · 10-17-2010, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The bottom line is that even though the defense had their worst outing of the season, the Chiefs were in a position to win the game in the fourth quarter.

I agree.

On the semi-bright side, I have more faith in Romeo's ability to adjust and correct mistakes than I have with any D coordinator in recent memory.

stevieray · 10-17-2010, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Looks like my guess was spot on.

whatever you want to think.

when you've lead a game until only 28 seconds is left, and watched your defense let them back in the game, you've done enough to win.

keep playing both sides of the fence. cassel sucks, yet he supoosed to pull a rabbit out of hat his in less than 30 seconds.

**DeezNutz** · 10-17-2010, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

The difference between Houston and KC today?

Our Matt was named Cassel. Their Matt was named Schaub.

Another FAXtabulator?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-17-2010, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Yeah, Houston's defense just killed their offense. I can't believe how much of a disadvantage those poor guys were after their _efense gave up 225+ yards rushing and 31 points.

The difference between Houston and KC today?

Our Matt was named Cassel. Their Matt was named Schaub.

But, but, he threw for 200 yards and 3 TD's.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-17-2010, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

whatever you want to think.

when you've lead a game until only 28 seconds is left, and watched your defense let them back in the game, you've done enough to win.

keep playing both sides of the fence. cassel sucks, yet he supoosed to pull a rabbit out of hat his in less than 30 seconds.

I didn't expect him to "pull a rabbit out of hat" but I did expect him to hit wide open receivers when it mattered most.

10-17-2010, 02:24 PM
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7219572	Reflections on a Rating But not by the refs First, I’m going to bet that about 2000 people blamed Carr on that final catch. If you watch, you’ll notice that he was covering Daniels in the short zone. If he would have inexplicably floated to the back pylon before the throw, Schaub has a wide open Daniels walking into the EZ and the result is the same. Don’t blame Carr. With that said, Romeo should have locked Flowers on Johnson for the entirety of that drive and not had us play zone in that situation. Berry was in the area too, but that was a schoolyard play, and those are the hardest to defend. Cassel really ****ed us on the last drive. He was near the money all game, and when he had Bowe and Horne wide open, he badly misfired on both, which made us need a Hail Mary for any shot. Oh, and that 3^rd and 2 call was there, but Cassel made an awful throw to Moeaki. He really screwed the pooch when we needed him the most, and that’s the difference between a franchise QB and Matt Cassel. I think we had more missed tackles today than every other game this season combined. Playing good offenses will tend to make that happen, but there were some really bad plays on D today. On Ward’s run, I counted six missed tackles. I know Donald Washington is a n00b FS, but he looked lost in coverage several times, and missed a couple of key tackles, one on the Ward run, and another on Jones™ catch late in the third, where he totally took himself out of coverage, recovered after the catch, and then blew the stop. Cassel’s first TD to Bowe was a great throw and catch. The other two TDs were phenomenal plays by the receivers. Vrabel’s was obviously way behind him, and Bowe went SD 2007 on the Texans on his second TD. If you are going to take something from Bowe’s performance today, it should be how he responded to adversity. I hope that the people who wanted him run out of town today feel a little foolish, because he is still a game changing receiving weapon, and he made a number of very difficult catches. He made 3 really good grabs today, and another circus catch that would have been a top 10 highlight had Cassel not lead him out of bounds. The running game was nails today. Charles started slow and then really picked it up. More than anything, he was much harder to take down today than he was last week, and Jones looked a hell of a lot quicker than he had the previous two games. And Charles had the greatest 7 yard run in football history. It’s becoming more and more apparent that the coaches do not trust Cassel whatsoever. Delay of game coming off of a timeout should be a capital offense for a QB. JFC.We were afraid to pass on the first drive, and unless we are in 3rd and 8+ or in a 2 minute drill, we aren’t attempting to throw downfield at all. However, the throw he made to Moeaki on 3rd and 7 was exactly where it needed to be. Brandon Flowers may be the most complete corner in the NFL today. The PI call on him was obviously horrendous, but if it’s a no-call, Johnson makes the catch anyway. The elbow in the back was a foul, but it’s not normally one that is called. That said, if you’re throwing a flag there, how do you not throw it on Johnson? DJ missed a couple of tackles today, but he was still all over the place. He played with a shitload of heart, and his athleticism—landing on your feet when getting flipped by an OL—was amazing. Belcher had a less impressive game. Gilberry was absolutely abused today. He generated no pressure in the passing game, and on running downs he got blown up or taken out by a single blocker nearly every time. The biggest thing that we need to take away from this game is that we have one outside receiving threat and nothing else, one pass rusher and nothing else, and no QB. Danario Alexander, a guy who many of us pined for and the Rams got off the street in August stepped in today and had 4 catches for 72 yards and a touchdown. That’s a really tough loss, but I’m proud of the fire that Flowers showed. The guy isn’t a paycheck player. Also, Haley did a masterful job of managing the emotions of the team and the game. Ultimately, our inability to generate pressure on Schaub is why we lost. Vrabel and Studebaker aren’t nearly good enough.
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Rudy tossed tigger's salad Better than Nelson Join Date: Mar 2003 Casino cash: $10000400	I was at the game...unfortunately Horne ran a poor, lazy route and it cost him. Moeaki was well covered. After all the third down conversions, I was hopeful...but it just wasn't there. Berry looked bad
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FAX testing ... 1, 2, 3 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Tennessee Casino cash: $6753759	This is actually my worst fear regarding Mitch Casswipe ... that he'll play just "good enough" to keep his job. He was more Doody than Howdy today ... particularly on critical snaps. If we didn't have the kind of quality running backs we have, we wouldn't have much in terms of offense. His tendency to panic and freak out reared its bloody head today once again. Sometimes he looks like a little girl who's seen a rat back there. FAX
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