Chiefs People blaming Cassel for this loss are clearly maladjusted freaks. - Page 10

yhf · 10-17-2010, 10:06 PM

For Christs sake, blame the coaches, blame the refs, blame the defense.

Do NOT blame Matt Cassel. He provided a winning effort.

C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT RATING
M. Cassel 20/29 201 6.9 3 0 122.9

Anyone that asks for more production, is, a dumb****.

Don't get me wrong, I doubt the shit out of Cassel, but his performance in this game was extremely encouraging. Any purported Chiefs fan that wasn't impressed and pleased by his play should just... get a ****ing grip.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 10-18-2010, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

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Lets just hope things are STARTING to slow down for the guy a little and that he will continue to play better each week and it wasn't just because we were facing an embarrassing pass defense today that makes every quarterback look good, but only made ours look serviceable.

That is all.

I'm suddenly reminded of the first time "Weapons of Mass Destruction" came up in a WH Press Conference.

I think we have our carefully crafted phrase, now when he plays the next four worst pass Ds in football, we can definitively say that after 6 years in the league and 40 starts, things will have begun to slow down for him.

Blick · 10-18-2010, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Cool han Luke

Yea but, the play on 3rd and 2 he ****ed it up at the same time to close the game. You can't call him a clutch QB, he is far from an elite that will take us to the promise land. He didn't out right lose the game for us but he didn't win it for us eather, and there are games that you want our QB to win it for us. Can't expect the defense to bail out the offense every week. Just like last week against the Colts. Cassel needs to play like he gets paid.

I don't like Cassel either, but I put that blame on Weis for that play call. It was awful. The running game was money all day, and we should have ran the ball there. Weis should know better than to put the ball in Cassel's hands in that situation. But, if you're going to throw there, call a better ****ing play. The play fake was shit. A fake toss? How many toss plays did we run all day? Like 1? Houston didn't buy it. Fake a hand off on that play and Moeaki is probably wide open. The routes were too deep on that play too. I like going for the kill shot, but that play sucked.

johnny961 · 10-18-2010, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by philfree

While I agree with the sentiment Schaub had enough time to take a piture of his tool and text it to some chick in the tunnel on about every play. Besides the last 28 seconds I have a hard time faulting Cassel in this loss.
He threw 3 TDs.

PhilFree

Your absolutely right here. Our defense did choke, and alot of that was failure to get consistent pressure on the QB. I never faulted Cassel for the loss. He didn't win the game, either.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 10-18-2010, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Blick

I don't like Cassel either, but I put that blame on Weis for that play call. It was awful. The running game was money all day, and we should have ran the ball there. Weis should know better than to put the ball in Cassel's hands in that situation. But, if you're going to throw there, call a better ****ing play. The play fake was shit. A fake toss? How many toss plays did we run all day? Like 1? Houston didn't buy it. Fake a hand off on that play and Moeaki is probably wide open. The routes were too deep on that play too. I like going for the kill shot, but that play sucked.

The running game was money all day, save for those situations. You do realize the reason why we went for it on 4th and short so many times is because we got stonewalled on 3rd, right?

yhf · 10-18-2010, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Dude, IMO Cassel didnt make "brilliant plays" today. He made plays that are EXPECTED from NFL BACKUPS and SECOND YEAR QUARTERBACKS. We are just so used to seeing the TOTAL AND COMPLETE GARBAGE that is his usual self that anything a step up from that is now being taken as ELEVENTY GREATNESS!!!1111111111

The guy went up against Bartee and Warfield today (with Wesley and some other scrub at safety) and came out with 200 yards of passing yards to show for it when backup level players light that secondary up for 300 routinely.

the pass to bowe in the end zone was nothing short of ELEVENTY BRILLIANT!!!

Really though, it was damn good. Better than i would expect from colt mcoy or brady quinn or jimmy pickles or any other hyped up second string NFL college prick that has been discussed ad infinitum.

Hammock Parties · 10-18-2010, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by yhf

the pass to bowe in the end zone was nothing short of ELEVENTY BRILLIANT!!!

Really though, it was damn good. Better than i would expect from colt mcoy or brady quinn or jimmy pickles or any other hyped up second string NFL college prick that has been discussed ad infinitum.

I was very happy with that throw.

I'm trying to think of another one that really impressed me and I can't.

Oh I know...

It's a sad commentary on Matt Cassel when I was really impressed by his 3rd and 7 conversion to Moeaki in the 4th. Made a snap decision and threw accurately.

Blick · 10-18-2010, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

The running game was money all day, save for those situations. You do realize the reason why we went for it on 4th and short so many times is because we got stonewalled on 3rd, right?

Getting stuffed on 3rd and 2 and keeping the clock running or forcing Houston to take a timeout is still better than what happened.

It also might have opened up the option to go for it on 4th and short there.

As soon as we put the game in the hands of the defense, I knew we lost.

Rasputin · 10-18-2010, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Blick

I don't like Cassel either, but I put that blame on Weis for that play call. It was awful. The running game was money all day, and we should have ran the ball there. Weis should know better than to put the ball in Cassel's hands in that situation. But, if you're going to throw there, call a better ****ing play. The play fake was shit. A fake toss? How many toss plays did we run all day? Like 1? Houston didn't buy it. Fake a hand off on that play and Moeaki is probably wide open. The routes were too deep on that play too. I like going for the kill shot, but that play sucked.

I agree totally, bad play call. Cassel still needed to find a way for the first down, it is his job when it is on the line. That was a make it or break it ending the hopes of Texasses winning the game. I thought it could have been a naked bootleg and run for the first down TWO FREAKING YARDS is all we needed. I figure Cassel should be getting better but he is not good enough for a wiff at the Super Bowl and that is what I am belly aching about him. Hope he proves me wrong and I would be happy after the fact.....

Blick · 10-18-2010, 12:19 AM

The 3rd and 8 completion for a 1st down to Bowe on the first drive(?) was a good throw. Doesn't mean shit...just sayin.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 10-18-2010, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Blick

Getting stuffed on 3rd and 2 and keeping the clock running or forcing Houston to take a timeout is still better than what happened.

It also might have opened up the option to go for it on 4th and short there.

As soon as we put the game in the hands of the defense, I knew we lost.

Getting stuffed on 3rd would have had no material outcome on the game (remember, Houston hadn't exhausted their TOs and were leisurely driving), and there is no way even Todd Haley is crazy enough to go for it at his own 40 when the other team has 2+ minutes left when only up 3 and a kicker with range from 50 on the other sideline.

**BossChief** · 10-18-2010, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by yhf

the pass to bowe in the end zone was nothing short of ELEVENTY BRILLIANT!!!

Really though, it was damn good. Better than i would expect from colt mcoy or brady quinn or jimmy pickles or any other hyped up second string NFL college prick that has been discussed ad infinitum.

AS I said though, it is the type of pass a second year quarterback is EXPECTED to make and if a backup is to last in this league, he also must make those plays.

Good quarterbacks in this league complete 4-5 of those per game and also throw in 2-3 deep balls with similar accuracy against secondaries like the one we faced today.

Today put my worst fear in realization (any many others here as well) that THIS is who Cassel CAN BE. Hopefully, Pioli isnt stuck to the idea that THIS is good enough for US.

A guy that loses shootouts against teams with real quarterbacks because he doesnt have what it takes to make the play when the team NEEDS IT.

We rushed for well over 200 yards against a team with the worst NFL pass defense, we should have been able to throw the ball all over the place AT WILL and attack deep throughout the game again, AT WILL. Our best pass was a 17 yard strike (that was equal to the one he threw last year in a loss to Dallas at the end of regulation...another game we lost because he couldnt produce 15 yards in OT when the defense got him the ball back with a first and 10 on the 50 in OT with a kicker that makes 50+ yarders with consistency)

Blick · 10-18-2010, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Cool han Luke

I agree totally, bad play call. Cassel still needed to find a way for the first down, it is his job when it is on the line. That was a make it or break it ending the hopes of Texasses winning the game. I thought it could have been a naked bootleg and run for the first down TWO FREAKING YARDS is all we needed. I figure Cassel should be getting better but he is not good enough for a wiff at the Super Bowl and that is what I am belly aching about him. Hope he proves me wrong and I would be happy after the fact.....

Cassel sucks and we all know it (or should). Even Weis knows it and game plans accordingly. That's why the 3rd and 2 call was so frustrating. Weis called a good game and Cassel played well within the game plan, but then Weis deviated from the game plan at the most critical point in the game. We know Cassel is going to let us down. We can't afford for Weis to do that.

philfree · 10-18-2010, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

WTF did Schaub do on the game's go-ahead cluster****?

He was pressured, bailed out and made a stupendous play off his back foot, no less.

Cassel couldn't throw it 10 yards in the same situation let alone 25.

I'm not making excuses for Cassel but he's not the reason we lost the game. You wanna say Schaub is better then great but he did have a ton of time to throw the ball in this game.

WTF happend to last week when Hali had 11 pressures and a sack?

PhilFree

yhf · 10-18-2010, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

I was very happy with that throw.

I'm trying to think of another one that really impressed me and I can't.

Oh I know...

It's a sad commentary on Matt Cassel when I was really impressed by his 3rd and 7 conversion to Moeaki in the 4th. Made a snap decision and threw accurately.

Consider the third down conversion to Bowe that was reviewed. Matt was under pressure, stepped up in the pocket and gunned a pass for a first down, during a critical drive. Good shit brother. Dare i might say, star quality shit (yeah I know fleeting and ultimately meaningless).

Hammock Parties · 10-18-2010, 12:30 AM

That sucked ass. The ball basically hit the ground.

Noodle armed it.

10-17-2010, 10:06 PM
yhf Starter Join Date: May 2010 Location: OPKS Casino cash: $10004925	People blaming Cassel for this loss are clearly maladjusted freaks. For Christs sake, blame the coaches, blame the refs, blame the defense. Do NOT blame Matt Cassel. He provided a winning effort. C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT RATING M. Cassel 20/29 201 6.9 3 0 122.9 Anyone that asks for more production, is, a dumb**. Don't get me wrong, I doubt the shit out of Cassel, but his performance in this game was extremely encouraging. Any purported Chiefs fan that wasn't impressed and pleased by his play should just... get a **ing grip.
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10-18-2010, 12:19 AM	#144
Blick Veteran Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: South KC Casino cash: $10004900	The 3rd and 8 completion for a 1st down to Bowe on the first drive(?) was a good throw. Doesn't mean shit...just sayin.
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10-18-2010, 12:30 AM	#150
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $4320478	That sucked ass. The ball basically hit the ground. Noodle armed it. __________________ Chiefs game films
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