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Old 11-04-2010, 03:09 PM  
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Collinsworth and Simms debate Matt Cassel

I can't believe Simms said some of the things he said.

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Old 11-04-2010, 04:26 PM   #76
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No shit. That wasn't my argument. I said he was playing to the game plan...
Being a 50 percent passer on 3rd down isn't in the gameplan.
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Old 11-04-2010, 04:26 PM   #77
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Cassel has 10 attempts this year on 3rd and short.




....why?
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Old 11-04-2010, 04:27 PM   #78
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Being a 50 percent passer on 3rd down isn't in the gameplan.
This...
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Old 11-04-2010, 04:27 PM   #79
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Ok, so you want to base an entire game on one series. I see.



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But its alright to base a game on a single play when it benefits the arguement regardless of player?

Okay, just wanted to know where the goalposts were moved too...
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Old 11-04-2010, 04:29 PM   #80
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Weis needs to stop being a pussy and just stop keeping Cassel on a leash. If Cassel is going to **** up...then let him **** up. I'd rather they take chances and go for big pass plays instead of the reeruned shit they do now. Weis is doing Cassel NO favors. Cassel sucks, but he doesn't suck to the point he averages only 200 ypg.

And then Weis chooses the dumbest times to throw risky passes. Why have most of the risky passes been on 3rd and short?
This. Cassel is only doing what Weis wants him to do.

Also, our offensive line doesn't pass protect very well in certain situations...like play action passes. We don't run very many PA passes for as good as our running game is.
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Okay, just wanted to know where the goalposts were moved too...
How about average for your position?...
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Old 11-04-2010, 04:30 PM   #82
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Our bad passing attack is collection of things. One is Matt. He's not one you can have just wing the ball all around. His release is too slow and his arm is not exactly a hum dinger cannon. Two is our WR's are not even what anybody would call good. Bowe is ok but is he really good? Does he get open consistantly? No and No. Three we throw the ball very little and practice makes perfect. The passing is dink and dunk and who the hell do we have that gets down the field with any speed that isn't easy to cover? We have no speed at Wr to do anything but dink and dunk. Four, we can run the ball for 200 a game. Why the hell not run the ball down other teams throats? Truth is, we don't have an offense right now nor the players to run a higher powered offense that needs Matt to do anything but what he's doing.
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Old 11-04-2010, 04:31 PM   #83
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How about average for your position?...
How about add something of substance for a change...
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Old 11-04-2010, 04:31 PM   #84
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True. And I can see where he and other fans are coming from. We should be destroying teams in the passing game w/ our powerful running attack. Our running game should make things easier for Cassel I totally understand. And if you ask me, I am not pleased at all with his entire play. I do think he needs to get better.

Cassel's indecisiveness, imo, is due to the fact he has bad tunnel vision. His problem is, he stares down receivers a lot. That needs to change. His peripheral vision needs to get better. But, Im not sure if that is something that could be taught. You either have that or you don't. On other hand, when he is confident to make throws, he makes some pretty decent throws. I think his pocket presence is inconsistent. Last year it was terrible, but it has gotten better in comparison to last year. He has developed some patience back there, the protection is better to give him more time to throw the ball, but it goes back to again, his peripheral vision is not that good. I think that plays a role in him having bad pocket presence, and making bad throws.

He definately has been lucky. Luck has certainly been on his side so far.

*My point was, overall he has been average. He is who he is. Has he been garbage at times? you sure bet. But at times he's been really good, and made some key throws to setup his team to win games. He has done a good job protecting the ball as well. Add all that up, and yeah you pretty much get an average quarterback imo. That is what Im getting at in looking at him from a broader scale as opposed to a narrow scale. We have to look at a lot of factors in order to judge who he really is.
Well ... hmmm.

I don't know what goes on behind the scenes, but my guess is that, when a pass play is called, Cassel is instructed to do several things ...

A) Don't throw the INT.
B) Don't take the sack.
C) Take the first read.

Maybe I'm using homer-vision, but I think/hope that's what's going on. Things make a lot more sense when you assume those are facts. Otherwise, Cassel is little more than a dumbass, extremely myopic, Howdy-Doody look-alike in a Chiefs suit.

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Yep, the blame falls mostly with Weis. Cassel blows it but Weis set him up to fail too. For a guy that was supposedly a genius in NE he sure doesn't show it here.

Of course, he had Brady in NE too. But that couldn't possibly make him a better playcaller could it?
He has made some bogus play calls at times. He sure gambled in that Houston game.

That game slipped out of our hands. when it was 3rd and short late in the 4th and he decided to pass, instead of running, I just dropped and rolled on the floor in disgust.

In that situation, you run the damn ball. Play according to your teams strengths. WTF was he thinking in that situation?

*I always think that when you have the players, as a coach or co-ordinator it makes your life that much better or easier. If your players are excellent at executing and making plays for a majority of the time, which is what star players do, then the coach automatically looks good.
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Old 11-04-2010, 04:32 PM   #86
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How about taking your own advice...
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I'd rather see the playbook opened up and Cassel try and fail, than see this reeruned shit we're doing with him. At least give him a chance to make a play.
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Old 11-04-2010, 04:35 PM   #88
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Need a mirror? How about post something other than bitching constantly about what I post...

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Old 11-04-2010, 04:37 PM   #89
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I swear you have to be a women...
Wow, that's some amazing hypocrisy on display. Weren't you just bitching about somebody else's post? Dumb ****.
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