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Old 11-04-2010, 03:09 PM  
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Collinsworth and Simms debate Matt Cassel
I can't believe Simms said some of the things he said.
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Old 11-04-2010, 04:38 PM   #91
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I'd rather see the playbook opened up and Cassel try and fail, than see this reeruned shit we're doing with him. At least give him a chance to make a play.
That would only work if Cassel does not, in fact, suffer from target fixation, Mr. KcChiefsKing.

His tendency to stare down receivers would not only result in more turnovers, it would mean the likely premature death of our receivers ... especially the midget ones. The fact is that, if they did feature Cassel, we'd get routinely slaughtered trying to win games on his arm and decision-making ability. The coaches have to, not only maximize our strengths, but minimize the number of plays at which we suck.

We're stuck with having to run the football for a mazillion yards or more every game. If, that is, we want to actually win.

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Old 11-04-2010, 04:38 PM   #92
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Old 11-04-2010, 04:39 PM   #93
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Weis needs to stop being a pussy and just stop keeping Cassel on a leash. If Cassel is going to **** up...then let him **** up. I'd rather they take chances and go for big pass plays instead of the reeruned shit they do now. Weis is doing Cassel NO favors. Cassel sucks, but he doesn't suck to the point he averages only 200 ypg.

And then Weis chooses the dumbest times to throw risky passes. Why have most of the risky passes been on 3rd and short?
Weis isn't going to just let Cassel impersonate Peyton Manning. It's not going to happen. Because Weis knows that unleashing Cassel would do nothing but implode the offense and cause our turnovers to skyrocket. It's no coincidence that Cassel averaged 40+ sacks a season before this year, and has reduced it to nearly nothing this year. They've got Cassel on a very short leash for good reason.

If we could throw down the field all game, we'd be doing it. The coaches aren't holding Cassel back because they want to take that dimension out of the offense. They're holding him back because they have to to play the type of game we're playing. Weis is getting the best out of Cassel that he can get.
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Old 11-04-2010, 04:40 PM   #94
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Wow, that's some amazing hypocrisy on display. Weren't you just bitching about somebody else's post? Dumb ****.
Your preception is so full of shit its not even funny Brock... Maybe read the post.... If you followed along... You would of noticed that they were talking about, how one drive doesnt define a person or a game... I asked back, how come that one play can define a person during a game, regardless of the person..

Would you like to discuss that or continue to be a ass for no reason?

Actually, I think you should put me on ignore... Every time I post, you throw a fit and whine about what I post....
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Old 11-04-2010, 04:41 PM   #95
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do they have the stars? Nope. But they have have a solid nucleus of players. Good young players, with solid defense and special teams, great running game, and good coaching is a team on the rise imo.

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I've revised my opinion on Cassel's arm strength as the season's gone on. He's not a noodle-arm. The issue is accuracy, I think he has enough raw oomph to make the throws.

He's actually doing several things better than he did last year. Minus a couple head-scratching plays last week, he's getting the ball out faster, which is I think helping the line not look so woeful in pass protection. He's generally making better decisions, as outlined by the TD/int ratio, and does appear to be progressing through reads on slower developing plays.

But the issue is that we're talking about the development of a 28-year old player in terms you'd normally apply to a 22-year old just getting his feet wet in the league. If it does somehow, sometime *click*, I wonder just how much time he'll play at his 'peak', whatever that ends up being.

I suppose the upside would be Trent Green, Steve Beurlein, Mark Brunell, Rich Gannon style post-30th birthday performance. But even that level of play seems very far away at times. He's a bit better than 2009, but it would be difficult not to be...

And, unfortunately, he has yet to show any of the "it" that allows certain quarterbacks to elevate the team around them at moments where it's needed. He's showing this year that (so far) he's capable of not losing games. But he has yet to show that he can win one.
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I'd rather see the playbook opened up and Cassel try and fail, than see this reeruned shit we're doing with him. At least give him a chance to make a play.
A coach is never going to set his player up for failure. Never. They're going to do everything they can to put him in a position to succeed. Even if that means lowering the expectations.

They know exactly what Cassel is capable of. There is no "finding out" if he can do it. If he could, they'd be doing it. It's really that simple.
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Weis isn't going to just let Cassel impersonate Peyton Manning. It's not going to happen. Because Weis knows that unleashing Cassel would do nothing but implode the offense and cause our turnovers to skyrocket. It's no coincidence that Cassel averaged 40+ sacks a season before this year, and has reduced it to nearly nothing this year. They've got Cassel on a very short leash for good reason.

If we could throw down the field all game, we'd be doing it. The coaches aren't holding Cassel back because they want to take that dimension out of the offense. They're holding him back because they have to to play the type of game we're playing. Weis is getting the best out of Cassel that he can get.
I can agree with this 100%, and this is why I think they will draft or aquire another QB at the end of this year.... They cant continue to build a team around Cassel and be limited to zero down field passess...

But also, I dont ever recall Weis's offense being a air it out Al Davis type of offense wanna be either....

It is by design, Cassel or could it just be both?
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I've revised my opinion on Cassel's arm strength as the season's gone on. He's not a noodle-arm. The issue is accuracy, I think he has enough raw oomph to make the throws.
His arm is still pretty average.

Maybe if he actually had a good arm that pass to Bowe on the first drive gets there faster and instead of the DB making a play Bowe hauls it in for a TD.

It's just another thing to add to the list of issues.
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A coach is never going to set his player up for failure. Never. They're going to do everything they can to put him in a position to succeed. Even if that means lowering the expectations.

They know exactly what Cassel is capable of. There is no "finding out" if he can do it. If he could, they'd be doing it. It's really that simple.
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Your preception is so full of shit its not even funny Brock... Maybe read the post.... If you followed along... You would of noticed that they were talking about, how one drive doesnt define a person or a game... I asked back, how come that one play can define a person during a game, regardless of the person..

Would you like to discuss that or continue to be a ass for no reason?

Actually, I think you should put me on ignore... Every time I post, you throw a fit and whine about what I post....
And miss out on your passive-aggressive say-nothing posts? No way.
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And miss out on your passive-aggressive say-nothing posts? No way.
Great, now I have to listen to you bitch relentless everytime I post... Why are you obsessed with me? Its kind of creepy if you really want to know...
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... And, unfortunately, he has yet to show any of the "it" that allows certain quarterbacks to elevate the team around them at moments where it's needed. He's showing this year that (so far) he's capable of not losing games. But he has yet to show that he can win one.
Yep.

He can, however, shake his tushie in front of the bench in a valiant effort to instill a sense of urgency in his fellow teammates.

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