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SPchief · 04:22 PM

All Royals All The Time!

After consultation with others who peruse the game threads we decided to create this as a repository for all things Royals. Minor league news, AL (ahem) Central (thanks Vonne) news and anything Royals can be found here.

alnorth, me and atleast 5 others will continue the game threads as usual. But if you locate something of interest.. ANYTHING.. deals on apparel, best ways in/out of the stadium, giveaways, great stories from this season or from seasons gone by, rumors, trades, anything.... feel free to post it here.

If a big story breaks, you can still start a thread about it. There is merely an all inclusive thread that will make a easy for us all to keep up with all things Royals.

Welcome! "Grab a Brew... don't cost nuthin"...[spills beer on feet]

**DeezNutz** · 11-11-2010, 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth

We're going to be hearing about phone calls and rumors all winter, but I very much doubt a trade will happen because of the king's ransom we are demanding and Greinke's refusal to play on the east coast.

Could be true. The folks on the radio (810) have been saying that NOT trading Greinke makes no sense now that DDJ has been moved.

Obviously, I don't necessarily agree with this "logic."

Demonpenz · 11-11-2010, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

I hear ya...

It is frustrating to hear dayton always talk of potential with every acquisition rather than what they are right now

Nervous? Nothing could get worse, I don't know anything worse, I can't possibly imagine it getting worse, unless we are talking the 2004 royals. No talent anywhere exept for future savior Alex Gordon.

KevB · 11-11-2010, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Could be true. The folks on the radio (810) have been saying that NOT trading Greinke makes no sense now that DDJ has been moved.

Obviously, I don't necessarily agree with this "logic."

Unless the org is sure he's going to bolt, not sure this logic makes sense. Greinke is still relatively young, just moving into his prime. He could certainly be a part of the next good team in 2 or 3 years, and that team should be cheap considering all the youngsters they'll have on the squad. Paying an ace top money should be reasonable with that in mind.

KChiefs1 · 11-13-2010, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Blue Jays interested in Greinke and Gordon:

http://blogs.pitch.com/plog/2010/11/...x_gordon_t.php

2 top prospects for Greinke isn't enough.

Don't shoot the messenger here but I just got an email from a guy who is a hardcore hot stove guy & he said the Blue Jays are willing to part with...

Shaun Marcum
Kyle Drabek
Travis Snyder

for

Greinke

Is this a doable trade for the Royals?

**Reaper16** · 11-13-2010, 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

Don't shoot the messenger here but I just got an email from a guy who is a hardcore hot stove guy & he said the Blue Jays are willing to part with...

Shaun Marcum
Kyle Drabek
Travis Snyder

for

Greinke

Is this a doable trade for the Royals?

The Jays' best prospect + a young RF w/ major league experience + a legit, established #2 starter? It's a good haul... but not nearly good enough.

Sure-Oz · 11-13-2010, 01:24 AM

Grienke should get us more that that....

Sure-Oz · 11-13-2010, 01:24 AM

Grienke should get us more that that....

KChiefs1 · 11-13-2010, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

Grienke should get us more that that....

Found this about Toronto's prospects:

There's no better example of the instant impact Alex Anthopoulos has had on the Blue Jays than their No. 3 prospect as rated by Baseball America .

Outfielder Anthony Gose is third in the Toronto system, according to the magazine's annual rankings, but he's a relative newcomer. The Phillies acquired Gose from the Phillies in the three-team deal that sent Roy Oswalt to Philadelphia and Brett Wallace to Houston. To get Wallace, the Blue Jays sent Michael Taylor to the A's. Taylor was one of the three prospects Toronto got from Philadelphia in exchange for Roy Halladay, along with Kyle Drabek (pictured) and Travis D'Arnaud.

Drabek, by the way, is the team's top prospect, according to the list, and D'Arnaud is fourth. Four of the team's top five prospects came in trades. In addition to Drabek, Gose and D'Arnaud, right-hander Zach Stewart came over from the Reds in the trade for Scott Rolen (that was before Anthopoulos came aboard).

Here's the Top 10:
1. Kyle Drabek, rhp
2. Deck McGuire, rhp
3. Anthony Gose, of
4. Travis D'Arnaud, c
5. Zach Stewart, rhp
6. Asher Wojciechowski, rhp
7. J.P. Arencibia, c
8. Carlos Perez, c
9. Aaron Sanchez, rhp
10. Jake Marisnick, of

**DeezNutz** · 11-13-2010, 11:26 AM

Don't like that Drabek is coming off of Tommy John's.

For Greinke, I think any club is going to have to part with 2 of their top-3 prospects plus young, ML-ready talent.

And these prospects need to have big upside, not simply be top prospects from an otherwise shit system, thus inflating their value.

**DeezNutz** · 11-13-2010, 11:26 AM

Don't like that Drabek is coming off of Tommy John's.

For Greinke, I think any club is going to have to part with 2 of their top-3 prospects plus young, ML-ready talent.

And these prospects need to have big upside, not simply be top prospects from an otherwise shit system, thus inflating their value.

KChiefs1 · 11-13-2010, 12:04 PM

Here's a trade I could live with....
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/1...the-expos.html

Bartolo Colon and Tim Drew from the Indians for Cliff Lee, Grady Sizemore, Brandon Phillips and Lee Stevens.

The Canadian Press wrote that Minaya made a "stunning acquisition," and some of Colon's teammates agreed. C.C. Sabathia told the AP the move was a "big blow," a "shock."

Combine a bold GM, a franchise in peril and a division title within reach and you'll see some surprising moves.

The Expos were in the playoff race after acquiring Colon on June 27th, 2002. They trailed the Braves by 6.5 games and found themselves 5.0 games behind the Wild Card-leading Diamondbacks. At the time of the trade, many writers pointed to the Expos' rotation depth; Colon joined Javier Vazquez, Tomo Ohka and Tony Armas Jr. to form one of the Senior Circuit's deepest rotations.

Colon played well for the Expos. He pitched 117 innings of 3.31 ERA ball, allowing less than a hit per frame and striking out two men for every one he walked. The Expos won 83 games - more than they'd won since 1996 - but it wasn't enough to topple the Braves, who won 101 times.

The Indians weren't in a position to make a playoff run so, like this year and last, they dealt their ace away. But not even GM Mark Shapiro can hope his recent deadline deals turn out as well as the one he made in 2002.

Shapiro told the AP at the time that the Indians were "clearly moving to a total rebuilding process." So how did he plan to rebuild the franchise? Start with an athletic center fielder and a left-handed ace.

Sizemore, who was 19 at the time of the trade, has combined power, speed, plate discipline and defense to become one of the league's elite players. Lee followed up his 2008 Cy Young campaign with a strong start that allowed Shapiro to obtain four Phillies prospects for him in a midseason trade.

Lee Stevens was a non factor and the Indians sent Phillips to the Reds for Jeff Stevens in a 2006 trade. Shapiro sold low on a second baseman who plays strong defense and has a 30-30 season to his name. But they acquired talent to spare for Colon, who was under team control for a year and a half after the trade.

The Expos traded Colon to the White Sox after the season. In return, they obtained Rocky Biddle, Orlando Hernandez, Jeff Liefer and cash. Minaya's gamble turned the Expos' top minor leaguers into a trio of considerably less valuable players. A playoff appearance would not necessarily have prevented the Expos from moving to D.C. after 2004, but the Bartolo Colon trade was anything but the solution to the organization's problems.

KChiefs1 · 11-13-2010, 12:04 PM

Here's a trade I could live with....
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/1...the-expos.html

Bartolo Colon and Tim Drew from the Indians for Cliff Lee, Grady Sizemore, Brandon Phillips and Lee Stevens.

The Canadian Press wrote that Minaya made a "stunning acquisition," and some of Colon's teammates agreed. C.C. Sabathia told the AP the move was a "big blow," a "shock."

Combine a bold GM, a franchise in peril and a division title within reach and you'll see some surprising moves.

The Expos were in the playoff race after acquiring Colon on June 27th, 2002. They trailed the Braves by 6.5 games and found themselves 5.0 games behind the Wild Card-leading Diamondbacks. At the time of the trade, many writers pointed to the Expos' rotation depth; Colon joined Javier Vazquez, Tomo Ohka and Tony Armas Jr. to form one of the Senior Circuit's deepest rotations.

Colon played well for the Expos. He pitched 117 innings of 3.31 ERA ball, allowing less than a hit per frame and striking out two men for every one he walked. The Expos won 83 games - more than they'd won since 1996 - but it wasn't enough to topple the Braves, who won 101 times.

The Indians weren't in a position to make a playoff run so, like this year and last, they dealt their ace away. But not even GM Mark Shapiro can hope his recent deadline deals turn out as well as the one he made in 2002.

Shapiro told the AP at the time that the Indians were "clearly moving to a total rebuilding process." So how did he plan to rebuild the franchise? Start with an athletic center fielder and a left-handed ace.

Sizemore, who was 19 at the time of the trade, has combined power, speed, plate discipline and defense to become one of the league's elite players. Lee followed up his 2008 Cy Young campaign with a strong start that allowed Shapiro to obtain four Phillies prospects for him in a midseason trade.

Lee Stevens was a non factor and the Indians sent Phillips to the Reds for Jeff Stevens in a 2006 trade. Shapiro sold low on a second baseman who plays strong defense and has a 30-30 season to his name. But they acquired talent to spare for Colon, who was under team control for a year and a half after the trade.

The Expos traded Colon to the White Sox after the season. In return, they obtained Rocky Biddle, Orlando Hernandez, Jeff Liefer and cash. Minaya's gamble turned the Expos' top minor leaguers into a trio of considerably less valuable players. A playoff appearance would not necessarily have prevented the Expos from moving to D.C. after 2004, but the Bartolo Colon trade was anything but the solution to the organization's problems.

Sure-Oz · 11-13-2010, 12:59 PM

Report: FLA talking Maybin trade w/ SD, KC

Maybin
MLB.com's Joe Frisaro reports that the Marlins are talking with the Padres and Royals about a trade involving Cameron Maybin.
Apparently the Marlins are willing to get rid of both of the main pieces of the Miguel Cabrera deal, as Andrew Miller was dealt to the Red Sox Friday. Maybin has yet to make an impact at the big league level, but the former top prospect still has time at 23 years of age. Obviously it depends on what they'd have to give up, but getting a high-upside player like Maybin at a position you really need could potentially pay big dividends for either the Padres or Royals. Nov. 13 - 1:01 pm et
Source: Joe Frisaro on Twitter

Sure-Oz · 11-13-2010, 01:00 PM

Report: FLA talking Maybin trade w/ SD, KC

Maybin
MLB.com's Joe Frisaro reports that the Marlins are talking with the Padres and Royals about a trade involving Cameron Maybin.
Apparently the Marlins are willing to get rid of both of the main pieces of the Miguel Cabrera deal, as Andrew Miller was dealt to the Red Sox Friday. Maybin has yet to make an impact at the big league level, but the former top prospect still has time at 23 years of age. Obviously it depends on what they'd have to give up, but getting a high-upside player like Maybin at a position you really need could potentially pay big dividends for either the Padres or Royals. Nov. 13 - 1:01 pm et
Source: Joe Frisaro on Twitter

KevB · 11-13-2010, 02:26 PM

Per Rotoworld:

A source told Yahoo's Jeff Passan that Cameron Maybin "will be traded."
Passan's source says a deal with the Padres is close, though the Marlins have also been talking to the Royals about Maybin, and it appears the door might not be closed between those two teams. Alex Gordon's name is being mentioned in the discussions with Kansas City, but it's not clear who the Padres would be giving up. Stay tuned.

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11-13-2010, 12:04 PM	#2546
KChiefs1 I’m a Mahomo! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mid-Missouri Casino cash: $6771021	Here's a trade I could live with.... http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/1...the-expos.html Bartolo Colon and Tim Drew from the Indians for Cliff Lee, Grady Sizemore, Brandon Phillips and Lee Stevens. The Canadian Press wrote that Minaya made a "stunning acquisition," and some of Colon's teammates agreed. C.C. Sabathia told the AP the move was a "big blow," a "shock." Combine a bold GM, a franchise in peril and a division title within reach and you'll see some surprising moves. The Expos were in the playoff race after acquiring Colon on June 27th, 2002. They trailed the Braves by 6.5 games and found themselves 5.0 games behind the Wild Card-leading Diamondbacks. At the time of the trade, many writers pointed to the Expos' rotation depth; Colon joined Javier Vazquez, Tomo Ohka and Tony Armas Jr. to form one of the Senior Circuit's deepest rotations. Colon played well for the Expos. He pitched 117 innings of 3.31 ERA ball, allowing less than a hit per frame and striking out two men for every one he walked. The Expos won 83 games - more than they'd won since 1996 - but it wasn't enough to topple the Braves, who won 101 times. The Indians weren't in a position to make a playoff run so, like this year and last, they dealt their ace away. But not even GM Mark Shapiro can hope his recent deadline deals turn out as well as the one he made in 2002. Shapiro told the AP at the time that the Indians were "clearly moving to a total rebuilding process." So how did he plan to rebuild the franchise? Start with an athletic center fielder and a left-handed ace. Sizemore, who was 19 at the time of the trade, has combined power, speed, plate discipline and defense to become one of the league's elite players. Lee followed up his 2008 Cy Young campaign with a strong start that allowed Shapiro to obtain four Phillies prospects for him in a midseason trade. Lee Stevens was a non factor and the Indians sent Phillips to the Reds for Jeff Stevens in a 2006 trade. Shapiro sold low on a second baseman who plays strong defense and has a 30-30 season to his name. But they acquired talent to spare for Colon, who was under team control for a year and a half after the trade. The Expos traded Colon to the White Sox after the season. In return, they obtained Rocky Biddle, Orlando Hernandez, Jeff Liefer and cash. Minaya's gamble turned the Expos' top minor leaguers into a trio of considerably less valuable players. A playoff appearance would not necessarily have prevented the Expos from moving to D.C. after 2004, but the Bartolo Colon trade was anything but the solution to the organization's problems. __________________
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11-13-2010, 12:04 PM	#2547
KChiefs1 I’m a Mahomo! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mid-Missouri Casino cash: $6771021	Here's a trade I could live with.... http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/1...the-expos.html Bartolo Colon and Tim Drew from the Indians for Cliff Lee, Grady Sizemore, Brandon Phillips and Lee Stevens. The Canadian Press wrote that Minaya made a "stunning acquisition," and some of Colon's teammates agreed. C.C. Sabathia told the AP the move was a "big blow," a "shock." Combine a bold GM, a franchise in peril and a division title within reach and you'll see some surprising moves. The Expos were in the playoff race after acquiring Colon on June 27th, 2002. They trailed the Braves by 6.5 games and found themselves 5.0 games behind the Wild Card-leading Diamondbacks. At the time of the trade, many writers pointed to the Expos' rotation depth; Colon joined Javier Vazquez, Tomo Ohka and Tony Armas Jr. to form one of the Senior Circuit's deepest rotations. Colon played well for the Expos. He pitched 117 innings of 3.31 ERA ball, allowing less than a hit per frame and striking out two men for every one he walked. The Expos won 83 games - more than they'd won since 1996 - but it wasn't enough to topple the Braves, who won 101 times. The Indians weren't in a position to make a playoff run so, like this year and last, they dealt their ace away. But not even GM Mark Shapiro can hope his recent deadline deals turn out as well as the one he made in 2002. Shapiro told the AP at the time that the Indians were "clearly moving to a total rebuilding process." So how did he plan to rebuild the franchise? Start with an athletic center fielder and a left-handed ace. Sizemore, who was 19 at the time of the trade, has combined power, speed, plate discipline and defense to become one of the league's elite players. Lee followed up his 2008 Cy Young campaign with a strong start that allowed Shapiro to obtain four Phillies prospects for him in a midseason trade. Lee Stevens was a non factor and the Indians sent Phillips to the Reds for Jeff Stevens in a 2006 trade. Shapiro sold low on a second baseman who plays strong defense and has a 30-30 season to his name. But they acquired talent to spare for Colon, who was under team control for a year and a half after the trade. The Expos traded Colon to the White Sox after the season. In return, they obtained Rocky Biddle, Orlando Hernandez, Jeff Liefer and cash. Minaya's gamble turned the Expos' top minor leaguers into a trio of considerably less valuable players. A playoff appearance would not necessarily have prevented the Expos from moving to D.C. after 2004, but the Bartolo Colon trade was anything but the solution to the organization's problems. __________________
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11-13-2010, 02:26 PM	#2550
KevB Agree to Disagree Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The State of Euphoria Casino cash: $10026612	Per Rotoworld: A source told Yahoo's Jeff Passan that Cameron Maybin "will be traded." Passan's source says a deal with the Padres is close, though the Marlins have also been talking to the Royals about Maybin, and it appears the door might not be closed between those two teams. Alex Gordon's name is being mentioned in the discussions with Kansas City, but it's not clear who the Padres would be giving up. Stay tuned.
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