Chiefs You Aren't What You Are - Page 3

'Hamas' Jenkins · 11-14-2010, 08:46 PM

Tyson Jackson is an absolute non-entity. I watched him on nearly every play he was in, and he was almost constantly dominated by either Harris or Beadles 1-1. It’s pathetic

Our lack of size and depth at NT is really starting to show and it did at this point and time last year as well.

Donald Washington has the worst ball skills of any secondary player I’ve ever seen. Ever. Calling him Bartee may be an insult to Bartee. On the first long catch by Lloyd, he pulled it in around the back of Washington’s helmet, and he totally blew inside coverage on Lloyd’s TD grab from Orton in the first. The 2009 draft could not have been worse. Oh well, at least his career as a starter lasted three ****ing drives before he was removed for FA street trash.

The challenge-non challenge was bullshit, but it probably wouldn’t have been overturned anyway. That was actually a good break, believe it or not.
Hey Ricky Price: Welcome to the NFL, bitch.

Cassel has the worst pocket presence of perhaps any NFL QB. He just cannot stop staring at the rush. He took a killer sack on the driver where Succop missed the 52 yarder. On Mays’ dead ball PF, He sucked the ball up and refused to throw it to either Chambers or Charles, who was wide open before Cassel tucked it and Charles slipped. Furthermore, our single-read passing system is so ridiculously limited. All of Cassel’s completions in the first portion of the game were on pre-scripted plays. We don’t just script our offense, a la a WCO, we pre-script the reads, which makes it impossible to throw downfield. Example: Cassel’s first completion, and the pass we completed to Bowe where he was instantly blown up by Mays. Moeaki was deeper and more open, but Cassel decided where he was going before the ball was snapped.

Josh McDaniels pulled Romeo Crennel’s cock through his ass today.

Watching this team get owned by mother****ing Friar Tuck should salt away any illusions we have about this team being able to “make noise” in the playoffs. The division is SD’s to lose.

Cassel has to be benched after taking all of these sacks. You can throw the ball away you stupid mother****er. He also totally missed Hagan blitzing. Richardson picked up the DE, Lilja double-teamed Williams, Moeaki released into the route and Cassel didn’t see any of it. Even then, he still had almost three seconds to get rid of that ball. He had Bowe wide open on the slant. Wide open. He just had to throw it where Bowe would have been and it’s 28-7 instead of 35-0. It was funny that they pulled Richardson after that play, even though it was the QB’s fault. Total sacred cow situation. O’Failaghan was terrible in relief, BTW.

That goal line stand is why our running game is tremendously overrated.

Jake O’Connell is still the worst player in the NFL

Cassel sure looked awesome against a prevent defense, which is why we can’t blame him at all for this performance. It will be interesting to see how the dropped picks are excused (I counted at least 3) and playing against a Cover 4 is ignored.

This game exposed every one of our weaknesses. The NTs got annihilated, we couldn’t generate any pressure if Hali was blocked, and our QB shit himself if his pre-scripted route was covered, taking too many sacks, missing too many easy throws, and generally ****ing us, we don’t have a deep threat, and we can’t run in short-yardage situations.

Direckshun · 11-14-2010, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by billay

How can Carr be bad when he has no help or a pass rush?

He's guarding WR2s. Those aren't the guys that demand help.

Here's my opinion:

1. Carr. We have a better CB on the team right now anyway in Arenas. Carr has always been the guy you can beat if you key in on him enough. And every time Carr has faced someone of considerable skill (basically a true WR2 or better) he gets destroyed.

2. Belcher. I'm still holding out faith that this was a solid find and a potential starter. But today he got absolutely abused and made a ton of gap-filling errors. That doesn't erase everything he's done to this point, but it does question whether he's got the head on his shoulders to meet the challenge.

3. TJ is a brokedick.

tk13 · 11-14-2010, 09:16 PM

Carr had very little safety help today. And he got burned alive.

Hammock Parties · 11-14-2010, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

He has made plenty of people miss this year.

Disagree. The guy gets one on one with a defender and he goes down.

He can make a cut but he doesn't have the ability to embarrass a guy like elite backs do.

I think he's a valuable No 2 back but he's not anything special at this point in his career.

FAX · 11-14-2010, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse

... I haven't seen that guy make someone miss or break a tackle all year long. ...

I know you've watched the games, so this doesn't make any sense at all.

Has this loss affected your mind?

FAX

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-14-2010, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Shogun

Exactly. I said this in another thread and it got bottom paged so I'll post it here again.

I think everybody got a little win drunk because of the way the season started. I think we have a very young rookie team with a lot of talent, and also some seasoned vets to show the guys whats what. We all got caught up in the winning so it hurts this much to lose, especially when the odds of us making the playoffs were released at 98%. We are in rebuilding mode and we are on the right path to being a good football team. All we can do is go back and fix our mistakes and learn from them. Nothing more can be done. Our coaching staff ( although, confusing sometimes ) know what they are doing, and have all been to the big dance. We are a rebuilding team and we should be happy with anything better than 2-14, 4-12 seasons. We've already gotten 5 wins. We're rebuilding, be patient. I know all of you have been holding out for a winning season but it isn't an overnight thing.

Are you ****ing 10 years old?

Your post reek of naivete.

**The Bad Guy** · 11-14-2010, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

Carr had very little safety help today. And he got burned alive.

It was easily his worst game as a Chief. Carr really struggles with guys who can run good routes.

**2112** · 11-14-2010, 09:18 PM

Well, look at the bright side, Hamas. you're not thinking of cauterizing your ass hole shut. or dipping your balls in chum and jumping in the shark tank.

That ****ing post still ****ing makes me piss myself!

Anyway, they cant get much worse after today.

Hammock Parties · 11-14-2010, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun

1. Carr. We have a better CB on the team right now anyway in Arenas.

You can't make that sort of judgment until you put Arenas on the island on the outside.

People on this forum are way too hard on Carr. He makes a lot of plays on the ball and last year had a similar stop rate compared to Flowers.

He's not Bartee or even Warfield.

**Shogun** · 11-14-2010, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Are you ****ing 10 years old?

Your post reek of naivete.

Im 11 wanna fight about it

**notorious** · 11-14-2010, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Carr really struggles with guys who play wide receiver.

FYP

Hammock Parties · 11-14-2010, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX

I know you've watched the games, so this doesn't make any sense at all.

Has this loss affected your mind?

FAX

Dude, if Thomas Jones had legitimately gotten one on one in the open field with a defender and made him miss, I'd have GIF'D it up.

He's a good running back, he's just not special.

**DeezNutz** · 11-14-2010, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

You are crazy. You need to go cool off. He's nowhere near as explosive as Charles, but who is. He has made plenty of people miss this year.

At times, it seems like we've asked Jones to do things he's not capable of. Dude should be moving north-south, not east-west, and too often he's called on to do the latter.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-14-2010, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun

He's guarding WR2s. Those aren't the guys that demand help.

Here's my opinion:

1. Carr. We have a better CB on the team right now anyway in Arenas. Carr has always been the guy you can beat if you key in on him enough. And every time Carr has faced someone of considerable skill (basically a true WR2 or better) he gets destroyed.

2. Belcher. I'm still holding out faith that this was a solid find and a potential starter. But today he got absolutely abused and made a ton of gap-filling errors. That doesn't erase everything he's done to this point, but it does question whether he's got the head on his shoulders to meet the challenge.

3. TJ is a brokedick.

You and your threads are ****ing reeruned.

Belcher didn't have ANY help up the middle. Ron Edwards, after 7 games, was cooked. Toribio wasn't active. Shaun Smith was exhausted. There's no depth on this defensive line.

TJ is FAR from a brokedick.

And right now, in 2010, Carr is a better option than Arenas, but I guess that's difficult for you to understand.

**dirk digler** · 11-14-2010, 09:23 PM

It would just be nice if Carr could get an INT every once in a while as much as everybody throws on him. 25 games started and he just doesn't get INT's

Pioli Zombie · 11-14-2010, 09:23 PM

But but but but he threw for 450 yards and 4 TDs. (Couldn't resist)
I'm all for just cutting his ass ala Wade Phillips.

11-14-2010, 08:46 PM
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7239572	You Aren't What You Are Tyson Jackson is an absolute non-entity. I watched him on nearly every play he was in, and he was almost constantly dominated by either Harris or Beadles 1-1. It’s pathetic Our lack of size and depth at NT is really starting to show and it did at this point and time last year as well. Donald Washington has the worst ball skills of any secondary player I’ve ever seen. Ever. Calling him Bartee may be an insult to Bartee. On the first long catch by Lloyd, he pulled it in around the back of Washington’s helmet, and he totally blew inside coverage on Lloyd’s TD grab from Orton in the first. The 2009 draft could not have been worse. Oh well, at least his career as a starter lasted three **ing drives before he was removed for FA street trash. The challenge-non challenge was bullshit, but it probably wouldn’t have been overturned anyway. That was actually a good break, believe it or not. Hey Ricky Price: Welcome to the NFL, bitch. Cassel has the worst pocket presence of perhaps any NFL QB. He just cannot stop staring at the rush. He took a killer sack on the driver where Succop missed the 52 yarder. On Mays’ dead ball PF, He sucked the ball up and refused to throw it to either Chambers or Charles, who was wide open before Cassel tucked it and Charles slipped. Furthermore, our single-read passing system is so ridiculously limited. All of Cassel’s completions in the first portion of the game were on pre-scripted plays. We don’t just script our offense, a la a WCO, we pre-script the reads, which makes it impossible to throw downfield. Example: Cassel’s first completion, and the pass we completed to Bowe where he was instantly blown up by Mays. Moeaki was deeper and more open, but Cassel decided where he was going before the ball was snapped. Josh McDaniels pulled Romeo Crennel’s cock through his ass today. Watching this team get owned by mothering Friar Tuck should salt away any illusions we have about this team being able to “make noise” in the playoffs. The division is SD’s to lose. Cassel has to be benched after taking all of these sacks. You can throw the ball away you stupid motherer. He also totally missed Hagan blitzing. Richardson picked up the DE, Lilja double-teamed Williams, Moeaki released into the route and Cassel didn’t see any of it. Even then, he still had almost three seconds to get rid of that ball. He had Bowe wide open on the slant. Wide open. He just had to throw it where Bowe would have been and it’s 28-7 instead of 35-0. It was funny that they pulled Richardson after that play, even though it was the QB’s fault. Total sacred cow situation. O’Failaghan was terrible in relief, BTW. That goal line stand is why our running game is tremendously overrated. Jake O’Connell is still the worst player in the NFL Cassel sure looked awesome against a prevent defense, which is why we can’t blame him at all for this performance. It will be interesting to see how the dropped picks are excused (I counted at least 3) and playing against a Cover 4 is ignored. This game exposed every one of our weaknesses. The NTs got annihilated, we couldn’t generate any pressure if Hali was blocked, and our QB shit himself if his pre-scripted route was covered, taking too many sacks, missing too many easy throws, and generally **ing us, we don’t have a deep threat, and we can’t run in short-yardage situations.
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11-14-2010, 09:16 PM	#32
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-1707500	Carr had very little safety help today. And he got burned alive.
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11-14-2010, 09:18 PM	#37
2112 Reset Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $6956765	Well, look at the bright side, Hamas. you're not thinking of cauterizing your ass hole shut. or dipping your balls in chum and jumping in the shark tank. That **ing post still **ing makes me piss myself! Anyway, they cant get much worse after today.
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11-14-2010, 09:23 PM	#44
dirk digler Please squeeze Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Clinton, MO Casino cash: $214644	It would just be nice if Carr could get an INT every once in a while as much as everybody throws on him. 25 games started and he just doesn't get INT's
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11-14-2010, 09:23 PM	#45
Pioli Zombie Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: olathe,kansas Casino cash: $10004900	But but but but he threw for 450 yards and 4 TDs. (Couldn't resist) I'm all for just cutting his ass ala Wade Phillips.
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