Chiefs You Aren't What You Are - Page 8

'Hamas' Jenkins · 11-14-2010, 08:46 PM

Tyson Jackson is an absolute non-entity. I watched him on nearly every play he was in, and he was almost constantly dominated by either Harris or Beadles 1-1. It’s pathetic

Our lack of size and depth at NT is really starting to show and it did at this point and time last year as well.

Donald Washington has the worst ball skills of any secondary player I’ve ever seen. Ever. Calling him Bartee may be an insult to Bartee. On the first long catch by Lloyd, he pulled it in around the back of Washington’s helmet, and he totally blew inside coverage on Lloyd’s TD grab from Orton in the first. The 2009 draft could not have been worse. Oh well, at least his career as a starter lasted three ****ing drives before he was removed for FA street trash.

The challenge-non challenge was bullshit, but it probably wouldn’t have been overturned anyway. That was actually a good break, believe it or not.
Hey Ricky Price: Welcome to the NFL, bitch.

Cassel has the worst pocket presence of perhaps any NFL QB. He just cannot stop staring at the rush. He took a killer sack on the driver where Succop missed the 52 yarder. On Mays’ dead ball PF, He sucked the ball up and refused to throw it to either Chambers or Charles, who was wide open before Cassel tucked it and Charles slipped. Furthermore, our single-read passing system is so ridiculously limited. All of Cassel’s completions in the first portion of the game were on pre-scripted plays. We don’t just script our offense, a la a WCO, we pre-script the reads, which makes it impossible to throw downfield. Example: Cassel’s first completion, and the pass we completed to Bowe where he was instantly blown up by Mays. Moeaki was deeper and more open, but Cassel decided where he was going before the ball was snapped.

Josh McDaniels pulled Romeo Crennel’s cock through his ass today.

Watching this team get owned by mother****ing Friar Tuck should salt away any illusions we have about this team being able to “make noise” in the playoffs. The division is SD’s to lose.

Cassel has to be benched after taking all of these sacks. You can throw the ball away you stupid mother****er. He also totally missed Hagan blitzing. Richardson picked up the DE, Lilja double-teamed Williams, Moeaki released into the route and Cassel didn’t see any of it. Even then, he still had almost three seconds to get rid of that ball. He had Bowe wide open on the slant. Wide open. He just had to throw it where Bowe would have been and it’s 28-7 instead of 35-0. It was funny that they pulled Richardson after that play, even though it was the QB’s fault. Total sacred cow situation. O’Failaghan was terrible in relief, BTW.

That goal line stand is why our running game is tremendously overrated.

Jake O’Connell is still the worst player in the NFL

Cassel sure looked awesome against a prevent defense, which is why we can’t blame him at all for this performance. It will be interesting to see how the dropped picks are excused (I counted at least 3) and playing against a Cover 4 is ignored.

This game exposed every one of our weaknesses. The NTs got annihilated, we couldn’t generate any pressure if Hali was blocked, and our QB shit himself if his pre-scripted route was covered, taking too many sacks, missing too many easy throws, and generally ****ing us, we don’t have a deep threat, and we can’t run in short-yardage situations.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-14-2010, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

It isn't dumb considering he asked to be traded twice, was out all last year on IR, and signed his tender 1 week before training camp to avoid paying all the fines he would have incurred. The only reason it didn't happen sooner was the Chiefs didn't want to start a predence by giving in to whiny players.

Bullshit.

First off, he wasn't out "all last year".

Secondly, he was a proven player but they decided to go a "different direction" and ****ed with him. I'd tell them to **** off, too.

If you don't think that Jared Page would have been a valuable member of the 2010 Chiefs, you're a ****ing idiot.

Titty Meat · 11-15-2010, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Bullshit.

First off, he wasn't out "all last year".

Secondly, he was a proven player but they decided to go a "different direction" and ****ed with him. I'd tell them to **** off, too.

If you don't think that Jared Page would have been a valuable member of the 2010 Chiefs, you're a ****ing idiot.

Define valuable Dane because i'm not so sure we wouldn't be in the same situation today considering Page has had injury problems the last few years and is already injured with the Patriots.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-15-2010, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by billay

Define valuable Dane because i'm not so sure we wouldn't be in the same situation today considering Page has had injury problems the last few years and is already injured with the Patriots.

Page was far more healthy than he wasn't available.

While it's true that anyone can get hurt, that certainly wasn't his MO.

And if you don't know his value on the field, then you haven't been paying much attention.

85 tackles, 12 passes defended and 4 INT's in 2008.

Yeah, he sucks.

**BossChief** · 11-15-2010, 02:00 AM

Id rather have the draft pick over a player that didn't want to be here.

If you don't want to be a Chief:

**** OFF

Its just a damn shame that all of our safeties got hurt at the same time, except Berry.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-15-2010, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Id rather have the draft pick over a player that didn't want to be here.

If you don't want to be a Chief:

**** OFF

Its just a damn shame that all of our safeties got hurt at the same time, except Berry.

That's a dopey mentality.

He would have been more than happy to stay in KC if he had been treated respectfully and given an extension.

There are 32 teams in the league and guys will be happy with whoever pays them.

Grow up.

Titty Meat · 11-15-2010, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Page was far more healthy than he wasn't available.

While it's true that anyone can get hurt, that certainly wasn't his MO.

And if you don't know his value on the field, then you haven't been paying much attention.

85 tackles, 12 passes defended and 4 INT's in 2008.

Yeah, he sucks.

I didn't say he sucks Dane but he was a horrible tackler and an average safety at best. Stats aren't everything Cassel was the leading passer today.

**BossChief** · 11-15-2010, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

That's a dopey mentality.

He would have been more than happy to stay in KC if he had been treated respectfully and given an extension.

There are 32 teams in the league and guys will be happy with whoever pays them.

Grow up.

whatever man.

You act like you talk to all the players and know everything that plays into every decision. You and I don't know half of what plays into these types of things.

He was given a tender offer that would have paid him 1.7 million...that was more than he had earned in his previous three years in the NFL combined if Im not mistaken.

All he had to do was bust his ass and take it like a ****ing man and earn it. Derrick Johnson didnt turn into a little bitch and he got PAID...Page turned into a bitch.

1.7 million for a guy that was a ****ing 7th rounder and was slow, missed lots of tackles and rarely performed well against good competition.

If you think we should have given him a long term extension after missing 11 games due to injury the previous year and ending it on IR and being the only player that chose not to show to any of the voluntary workouts, some dumb**** stole your log in.

Titty Meat · 11-15-2010, 02:18 AM

Page missed 14 games last year and has already missed 4 this year. It's fair to question his durability and considering he's injured right now he wouldn't have been much help today.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-15-2010, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by billay

Page missed 14 games last year and has already missed 4 this year. It's fair to question his durability and considering he's injured right now he wouldn't have been much help today.

Bullshit.

He played in 48 straight games until last year and this year, he had no training camp or OTA's.

The ****ing blind homers around here are ****ing KILLING ME.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-15-2010, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

whatever man.

You act like you talk to all the players and know everything that plays into every decision. You and I don't know half of what plays into these types of things.

He was given a tender offer that would have paid him 1.7 million...that was more than he had earned in his previous three years in the NFL combined if Im not mistaken.

All he had to do was bust his ass and take it like a ****ing man and earn it. Derrick Johnson didnt turn into a little bitch and he got PAID...Page turned into a bitch.

1.7 million for a guy that was a ****ing 7th rounder and was slow, missed lots of tackles and rarely performed well against good competition.

If you think we should have given him a long term extension after missing 11 games due to injury the previous year and ending it on IR and being the only player that chose not to show to any of the voluntary workouts, some dumb**** stole your log in.

No offense but we're not all created equal.

You're guessing, which puts you in a precarious position if confronted with facts.

Titty Meat · 11-15-2010, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Bullshit.

He played in 48 straight games until last year and this year, he had no training camp or OTA's.

The ****ing blind homers around here are ****ing KILLING ME.

I'm a blind homer? Last week I was told I hated the Chiefs because I said Denver would beat us now I'm a blind homer? I JUST CANT ****ING WIN WITH YOU PEOPLE

**BossChief** · 11-15-2010, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

No offense but we're not all created equal.

You're guessing, which puts you in a precarious position if confronted with facts.

I'm not guessing one bit.

Facts:

He is slow
he missed a bunch of tackles...consistently.
He didn't have good games against the good teams, he had good games against the Raiders.
He missed 11 games last year
He ended last year on IR
He refused to attend any offseason workouts (he was the ONLY player to do so, even Waters and Vrabel attended when their professional history shows they normally don't)
He refused to sign his tender until he would get traded. A damn good tender, in fact.

Shit, Derrick Johnson played for us for what? 5 years before he had to play for a 6th to earn his contract...and Page should have been signed after 3 and another that was severely cut short by injury?

please

If you think the facts are that we should have bent over and appeased him by signing that type of player to a long term deal, with a lot of up front money, that would mean he basically had to start for us for a few years and have better players on the bench (Lewis) then I don't know what to tell you.

"we aren't all created equal"

Yeah, you're right.

no offense

Saccopoo · 11-15-2010, 03:48 AM

Spot on Hamas.

I hope people are thrilled with our second round novelty standing on the sidelines in street clothes, our first round safety who runs out of gas after 20 yards of running and our first round defensive end, who, in a nutshell, sucks dog nuts, while Beadles ass raped our defensive line all game long. He thoroughly dominated Dorsey and Jackson.

Let's not take offensive linemen in the draft though because we need "playmakers" who apparently can't play.

What a complete waste of two years of incredibly good offensive line talent in the draft. I hope all of you Albert ball washers are still delusionally happy at this point.

Oh, and our quarterback is absolutely atrocious to go along with what might be the worst offensive tackle situation in the NFL. I can't wait for Pioli to take a cornerback or a middle linebacker or a punt returner in the first round of the next two drafts when quality QBOTF are going to be available.

**dirk digler** · 11-15-2010, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Bullshit.

First off, he wasn't out "all last year".

Secondly, he was a proven player but they decided to go a "different direction" and ****ed with him. I'd tell them to **** off, too.

If you don't think that Jared Page would have been a valuable member of the 2010 Chiefs, you're a ****ing idiot.

Quit being stupid. Page asked twice for a trade last year because he got upset about his injury situation he even admitted as much. He didn't want to be here and it was obvious the feeling was mutual since they considered him soft.

Shocking that he is hurt again..

Lbedrock1 · 11-15-2010, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Shogun

Exactly. I said this in another thread and it got bottom paged so I'll post it here again
We're rebuilding, be patient. I know all of you have been holding out for a winning season but it isn't an overnight thing.

This is why you deserve to be bottom posted. Teams are always rebuilding. We can not use that as an excuse until we start winning. In order to win you have to have a strong leader ie payton manning. I use him because he doesn't always have a strong d and he has lost most of his starter yet he is still making plays. A good leader makes those around him better, he knows where they are suppose to be. Montana taught me that when he came here and made our receiving core look like the second coming of rice and taylor. It should only take 2 years to rebuild and we are on our 4th year. We are not rebuilding we just have a sorry leader whos lack of skill has been protected by d, a running game and ST and when it was his turn to step up at a crucial time to keep their o off the field by finding a way to keep ours on the field and scoring he couldn't do it. We are growing at every position except our leadership position qb

11-14-2010, 08:46 PM
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7239572	You Aren't What You Are Tyson Jackson is an absolute non-entity. I watched him on nearly every play he was in, and he was almost constantly dominated by either Harris or Beadles 1-1. It’s pathetic Our lack of size and depth at NT is really starting to show and it did at this point and time last year as well. Donald Washington has the worst ball skills of any secondary player I’ve ever seen. Ever. Calling him Bartee may be an insult to Bartee. On the first long catch by Lloyd, he pulled it in around the back of Washington’s helmet, and he totally blew inside coverage on Lloyd’s TD grab from Orton in the first. The 2009 draft could not have been worse. Oh well, at least his career as a starter lasted three **ing drives before he was removed for FA street trash. The challenge-non challenge was bullshit, but it probably wouldn’t have been overturned anyway. That was actually a good break, believe it or not. Hey Ricky Price: Welcome to the NFL, bitch. Cassel has the worst pocket presence of perhaps any NFL QB. He just cannot stop staring at the rush. He took a killer sack on the driver where Succop missed the 52 yarder. On Mays’ dead ball PF, He sucked the ball up and refused to throw it to either Chambers or Charles, who was wide open before Cassel tucked it and Charles slipped. Furthermore, our single-read passing system is so ridiculously limited. All of Cassel’s completions in the first portion of the game were on pre-scripted plays. We don’t just script our offense, a la a WCO, we pre-script the reads, which makes it impossible to throw downfield. Example: Cassel’s first completion, and the pass we completed to Bowe where he was instantly blown up by Mays. Moeaki was deeper and more open, but Cassel decided where he was going before the ball was snapped. Josh McDaniels pulled Romeo Crennel’s cock through his ass today. Watching this team get owned by mothering Friar Tuck should salt away any illusions we have about this team being able to “make noise” in the playoffs. The division is SD’s to lose. Cassel has to be benched after taking all of these sacks. You can throw the ball away you stupid motherer. He also totally missed Hagan blitzing. Richardson picked up the DE, Lilja double-teamed Williams, Moeaki released into the route and Cassel didn’t see any of it. Even then, he still had almost three seconds to get rid of that ball. He had Bowe wide open on the slant. Wide open. He just had to throw it where Bowe would have been and it’s 28-7 instead of 35-0. It was funny that they pulled Richardson after that play, even though it was the QB’s fault. Total sacred cow situation. O’Failaghan was terrible in relief, BTW. That goal line stand is why our running game is tremendously overrated. Jake O’Connell is still the worst player in the NFL Cassel sure looked awesome against a prevent defense, which is why we can’t blame him at all for this performance. It will be interesting to see how the dropped picks are excused (I counted at least 3) and playing against a Cover 4 is ignored. This game exposed every one of our weaknesses. The NTs got annihilated, we couldn’t generate any pressure if Hali was blocked, and our QB shit himself if his pre-scripted route was covered, taking too many sacks, missing too many easy throws, and generally **ing us, we don’t have a deep threat, and we can’t run in short-yardage situations.
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BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1585912	Id rather have the draft pick over a player that didn't want to be here. If you don't want to be a Chief: **** OFF Its just a damn shame that all of our safeties got hurt at the same time, except Berry. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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Titty Meat Inmem 2.0 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: My house Casino cash: $-1012442	Page missed 14 games last year and has already missed 4 this year. It's fair to question his durability and considering he's injured right now he wouldn't have been much help today.
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11-15-2010, 03:48 AM	#118
Saccopoo Kindness in words... Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Zion Casino cash: $10025483	Spot on Hamas. I hope people are thrilled with our second round novelty standing on the sidelines in street clothes, our first round safety who runs out of gas after 20 yards of running and our first round defensive end, who, in a nutshell, sucks dog nuts, while Beadles ass raped our defensive line all game long. He thoroughly dominated Dorsey and Jackson. Let's not take offensive linemen in the draft though because we need "playmakers" who apparently can't play. What a complete waste of two years of incredibly good offensive line talent in the draft. I hope all of you Albert ball washers are still delusionally happy at this point. Oh, and our quarterback is absolutely atrocious to go along with what might be the worst offensive tackle situation in the NFL. I can't wait for Pioli to take a cornerback or a middle linebacker or a punt returner in the first round of the next two drafts when quality QBOTF are going to be available.
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