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Old 11-14-2010, 06:21 PM  
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It all came down to defense...or lack thereof
Plain and simple, the defense choked this game. Was not having McGraw THAT big of an issue? Perhaps it was. No pressure all game long. Didn't do shit to stop the run.
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Old 11-14-2010, 07:15 PM   #16
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Old 11-14-2010, 07:15 PM   #17
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Old 11-14-2010, 07:28 PM   #18
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That being said, Cassel has to play better from the get go. He made a lot of mistakes in the first half. I like what he did in the 2nd half but I'm not sure if that's more a product of Denver easing off the throttle or Cassel actually pulling his head out of his ass.
I would hope he could complete some passes against a prevent.
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Old 11-15-2010, 05:50 AM   #19
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Romeo Crennel. Hiding his total dumbassery behind Belichick's coattails for a decade.
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Old 11-15-2010, 06:25 AM   #20
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The defense gave up a lot of points early, but it's the QB's job to reset the tempo. For as bad as the defense played, I think Cassel's fumble in the first half sealed the deal. While I thought he played okay in Oakland what you saw today is that Cassel is garbage when he isn't running a play with predetermined reads.

And that's not good. There will be games when you are forced to open up your offense and the QB has to have the flexibility to adapt with the game.
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Old 11-15-2010, 06:36 AM   #21
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What a dumbass comment... do you realize it was already 28-0 at that point?

Cassel was a relatively small part of the reasons for the Chiefs losing today.

Put the blame on the defense that looked Greg Robinson-caliber today.

Romeo was whored by his former Patriots donut boy.
Absolutely. Defense lost this game and any other reason is just rediculous. 4straight TD's in the first half? Really? Denver went through us like sailors in a whore house. It was one of those days where they did no wrong. Oak did it to them and they did it to us.
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Old 11-15-2010, 08:15 AM   #22
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In my opinion, the #1 reason for the loss was coaching. The team wasn't prepared, they were flat and they never got it back.

#2 The defensive players had their heads up their asses all day.

#3 teams have figured out you can load the line against the run and force Cassel to beat man coverage...he can't. If the offense can't operate efficiently because of one player (the most important on the field), they are fighting with one arm tied behind their backs.

So, everyone shared in this loss with the majority of the blame going on the coaches and defense. Cassel is a big problem now and moving forward.
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Old 11-15-2010, 08:40 AM   #23
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Cassel didn't help, but the defense played a horrible game. Moreso the first half. Unlike the Texans game where I gave equal blame, I place most of this on the defense. Or should I say _efense?

That being said, Cassel has to play better from the get go. He made a lot of mistakes in the first half. I like what he did in the 2nd half but I'm not sure if that's more a product of Denver easing off the throttle or Cassel actually pulling his head out of his ass.
I think my biggest problem with Cassel is he is a SLOOOOOOW starter. It takes him forEVER to get his passing game in rhythm. IIRC most of his yards came on zones. KC will not face many zones this year until they start getting WRs open against zero-coverage, Cassel recognizes who is open in zero coverage and Cassel hits the receiver in stride with regularity. If that ever happens things will get easier. Until that time Chiefs games will be long, object-throwing abortions.

It was obvious within the first 4 plays that the Offense was gonna need to keep Denver's offense off the field. But Cassel takes a quarter and a half to figure out what's happening. By then it's 35-0 and the D is being rope-a-doped by the best passing offense in the league while playing a safety signed off the practice squad 4 days earlier.

As for the D...Denver made 4-5 friggin amazing catches against them and got surprised a couple of times against some extremely well-timed, well-disguised, well-executed screens. But where was the front-7? No pressure and gaping voids for ball-carriers.

The D has carried this team most of the year.
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Old 11-15-2010, 08:59 AM   #24
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It was obvious within the first 4 plays that the Offense was gonna need to keep Denver's offense off the field. But Cassel takes a quarter and a half to figure out what's happening. By then it's 35-0 and the D is being rope-a-doped by the best passing offense in the league while playing a safety signed off the practice squad 4 days earlier.
Cassel didn't start off slow on the first drive. He converted a first down passing the ball. The run game sucked and then when he converted a 2nd 1st down passing the ball, the play was called back for illegal motion (or something on Charles), setting up a 3rd and very long.
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Old 11-15-2010, 09:05 AM   #25
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Cassel didn't start off slow on the first drive. He converted a first down passing the ball. The run game sucked and then when he converted a 2nd 1st down passing the ball, the play was called back for illegal motion (or something on Charles), setting up a 3rd and very long.
OK, but how do you explain that KC didn't answer The broncos first 35 points until there was 4 minutes left in the first half? Furthermore I maintain that illegal shift is on Cassel for calling for the snap BEFORE charles had time to get set.
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Old 11-15-2010, 09:07 AM   #26
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OK, but how do you explain that KC didn't answer The broncos first 35 points until there was 4 minutes left in the first half? Furthermore I maintain that illegal shift is on Cassel for calling for the snap BEFORE charles had time to get set.
KC is a running oriented team. They couldn't move the ball on the ground, period. Once KC had to pass the protection wasn't great and Cassel contributed by not throwing the ball quickly.
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Old 11-15-2010, 09:30 AM   #27
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Matt Cassel showed absolutley NO leadership in Denver. His team needed him to make plays and he kept missing open receivers down field and he threw to the wrong receiver at least 6-8 times. Cassel needed to set the tone offensivley - he laid an egg. All of those passing yards mean shit. Cassel needed to rally his team and he flopped.
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Old 11-15-2010, 09:33 AM   #28
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In my opinion, the #1 reason for the loss was coaching. The team wasn't prepared, they were flat and they never got it back.

#2 The defensive players had their heads up their asses all day.

#3 teams have figured out you can load the line against the run and force Cassel to beat man coverage...he can't. If the offense can't operate efficiently because of one player (the most important on the field), they are fighting with one arm tied behind their backs.

So, everyone shared in this loss with the majority of the blame going on the coaches and defense. Cassel is a big problem now and moving forward.


Cassel is a huge problem and he is not a team leader. The way he carries himself on the field really pizzes me off.
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Old 11-15-2010, 09:49 AM   #29
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Yesterday was horrible for sure, but everyone is acting like they didn't see this coming.

Remember when we struggled to beat the Jags, but we won anyways, and some people stated that it's great to win, but I noticed this, this and that. And other people ripped those people apart saying "Why can't you enjoy the win you PoS. Get raped by an AIDS tree. We won, you should be happy."

Well, I'm betting some people have a little case of I told you so coming to them. Cassel has played like shit all year. And I know his stats tell a story of maybe not a franchise QB, but definitely a serviceable one, but those stats lie. The D has slowly been crumbling since the Jax game. I mean seriously, when you let a dude that was on a tractor 5 days before the game pass all over you, how top rated is your D.

The Chiefs have gotten by because they have played weak teams, who are some of the worst in the league. But when you go into OT with Buffalo, and barely win with 20 seconds left, at home, doesn't that give anyone pause?

The bright side is the team is improving from year to year, and there is a lot to look forward too. But no one should have seriously thought that we would "make noise" in the playoffs. The only noise that would be made would be soft sound of a fart as NE, Pit, NY or Indy steamrolled us.

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Yesterday was horrible for sure, but everyone is acting like they didn't see this coming.

Remember when we struggled to beat the Jags, but we won anyways, and some people stated that it's great to win, but I noticed this, this and that. And other people ripped those people apart saying "Why can't you enjoy the win you PoS. Get raped by an AIDS tree. We won, you should be happy."

Well, I'm betting some people have a little case of I told you so coming to them. Cassel has played like shit all year. And I know his stats tell a story of maybe not a franchise QB, but definitely a serviceable one, but those stats lie. The D has slowly been crumbling since the Jax game. I mean seriously, when you let a dude that was on a tractor 5 days before the game pass all over you, how top rated is your D.

The Chiefs have gotten by because they have played weak teams, who are some of the worst in the league. But when you go into OT with Buffalo, and barely win with 20 seconds left, at home, doesn't that give anyone pause?

The bright side is the team is improving from year to year, and there is a lot to look forward too. But no one should have seriously thought that we would "make noise" in the playoffs. The only noise that would be made would be soft sound of a fart as NE, Pit, NY or Indy steamrolled us.

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No, no, no, no; we were supposed to look with great anticipation to the future after that OUTSTANDING showing against ****ing Buffalo, didn't you hear?

I do however agree on the overall improvement. It's just going to take more and BETTER players, and that's all there is to it. Great Coaching/Coording can't do it alone.
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