I know everyone on CP hates Cassel.....

[Three7s]

So, after listening to Petro's weekly PMS rant about people unfairly bashing Cassel, I started wondering. What would it take for people to actually.....LIKE Cassel? I don't know if there's a thread on this or not because I'm way too lazy to go through all of the Cassel bashing threads.

FWIW, I don't think Cassel is all that great either, but he can, at least, complete a pass once in awhile, unlike guys like Campbell.

What I think would sway my feelings toward him is to do what he did against the Broncos, only when it REALLY matters. I know it would go against our offensive philosophy, but teams are stacking the box on us so much that it looks like it has to be done.......so how about you guys?

[ChiefsCountry]

Win a Super Bowl. Said it the day he arrived only thing he could do to make me like him. By him becoming a Chief ****ed this team up.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Win a Super Bowl. He's getting paid the type of dough to expect that.

Right now he's the highest paid game manager in the game.

[DJ's left nut]

Win me a couple of games when you're asked to.

He's been asked three times this season to make something happen for his team and win us a ballgame (Indy, Houston and Oakland).

All 3 times he's failed.

If Cassel can show that he's more than a guy that is passable when things are going well, I'll get behind him.

But as it stands, Cassel is a guy that is capable of not getting in the way and that's it. Granted, that's more than I thought he'd be, but it's still not good enough.

[DaWolf]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

not true at all.

people in KC bashed the hell out of trent green in 2001.

In 2002 he turned things around because he got help around him, and he became a good solid QB to the point ''most'' people in KC liked him. Not to mention he's a class act and intelligent individual (not that MC isn't).

Point is, Green was able to improve and Cassel isn't. People are pissed off he was paid a ton of money to shit the bed.

Meh, there was still a lot of dissatisfaction with Green, primarily because he was an aging QB with an injury history that we traded a high first round pick for. Even when he did get in a groove and started putting up big numbers, people liked to look at the fact that we weren't consistently winning games, until we went 13-3, and even at that point the argument was being made that there were many QB's who could thrive with an offensive line like we had that gave him all day to throw and Priest Holmes/LJ in the backfield.

Point being, yes most people eventually warmed up to him, but he never seemed to be "loved."

I think there are a lot of people who really just want to see this team develop a young QB from the beginning. I think someone like Matt Ryan would be someone that KC would "love" as a QB, that goes without saying. But there's probably a sentiment out there that would love even more for this team to take someone hidden gem in the mid rounds, and have him come out of nowhere to become a star. If a Tom Brady happened here, they would own this town like no one else had.

I think it's quite possible that if Cassel had been drafted by the Chiefs in round 7 and he was a 23 year old in his second season playing like this on a minimum contract, the majority of fans would be fine with what's going on out there, excited that this is a hardworking guy who is putting in the work to get better and expecting an upward curve, and we'd look past a lot of the shortcomings. But that's obviously not the situation.

I think at the end of the day, we as Chiefs fans have been through so many let downs, that we want to look at our QB and see the face of the franchise and know that whatever happens, that guy gives us the confidence that we've got a great shot at winning Sunday. Right now however, we look at Matt Cassel and see a highly paid QB from another franchise who is expected to be a "game manager" while we try to win ugly. That doesn't inspire confidence, and definitely doesn't inspire the love of a fanbase...

[petegz28]

In some fairness to Cassel, the passes he overthrew Sunday were to slow WR's like Chambers. He hits Chambers on those passes and it's picked cause Chambers cannot get any separation. I think it would help him some of we had a WR that was actually fast and could separate some. He still sucks but it would reduce the suckage.

[Simply Red]

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by Gif Horse

Regardless, I'm not giving credit to Cassel for a "game-winning drive" when all he did was complete one dump off pass.

Bitching about him and B-Rich, and then refusing to give him credit for anything makes you look like a bigger asshole by the minute.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by DaWolf

Meh, there was still a lot of dissatisfaction with Green, primarily because he was an aging QB with an injury history that we traded a high first round pick for. Even when he did get in a groove and started putting up big numbers, people liked to look at the fact that we weren't consistently winning games, until we went 13-3, and even at that point the argument was being made that there were many QB's who could thrive with an offensive line like we had that gave him all day to throw and Priest Holmes/LJ in the backfield.

Point being, yes most people eventually warmed up to him, but he never seemed to be "loved."

I think there are a lot of people who really just want to see this team develop a young QB from the beginning. I think someone like Matt Ryan would be someone that KC would "love" as a QB, that goes without saying. But there's probably a sentiment out there that would love even more for this team to take someone hidden gem in the mid rounds, and have him come out of nowhere to become a star. If a Tom Brady happened here, they would own this town like no one else had.

I think it's quite possible that if Cassel had been drafted by the Chiefs in round 7 and he was a 23 year old in his second season playing like this on a minimum contract, the majority of fans would be fine with what's going on out there, excited that this is a hardworking guy who is putting in the work to get better and expecting an upward curve, and we'd look past a lot of the shortcomings. But that's obviously not the situation.

I think at the end of the day, we as Chiefs fans have been through so many let downs, that we want to look at our QB and see the face of the franchise and know that whatever happens, that guy gives us the confidence that we've got a great shot at winning Sunday. Right now however, we look at Matt Cassel and see a highly paid QB from another franchise who is expected to be a "game manager" while we try to win ugly. That doesn't inspire confidence, and definitely doesn't inspire the love of a fanbase...

I think there is some truth to this, but at the same time, if Cassel had come in and played like someone who had sat a learned for three years, then he might be looked on more favorably.

He should have been more advanced than he was.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Bitching about him and B-Rich, and then refusing to give him credit for anything makes you look like a bigger asshole by the minute.

I give him credit for not ****ing up a six-yard pass.

It's indicative of nothing beyond that.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by Gif Horse

I give him credit for not ****ing up a six-yard pass.

It's indicative of nothing beyond that.

I don't like Cassel at all, but that's a crock of ****ing shit.

Keep moving the goalposts, tool.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I don't like Cassel at all, but that's a crock of ****ing shit.

Explain then, how a six-yard pass any quarterback in the league could have completed is indicative of something else?

Cassel had a chance to win that game in regulation and did nothing.

He was lucky the defense came up with two stops in a row to give him another chance.

[tk13]

I can't say I have the confidence that he'll develop into a franchise QB. But to answer the question, I think that ship is sailed. It's probably not happening.

I think people finally got behind Green, but the board was a lot different then. Now it's a lot more angry, and full of people who want to be right about everything.

[FRCDFED]

Watch Sam Bradford the "rookie" QB for the Rams. All he has to do is play like Bradford. The guy has nerves of steel, always makes the right pre/post snap reads, throws with zip on the ball, doesn't over/under throw his receivers, and can put the team on his back and carry them. All this from a rookie!

That is all!

[wutamess]

I think people will start liking Cassle when D Bowe takes his head out of his ass and stops costing Cassle games and catch the fuggin passes he's supposed to catch.

With Cassels play, we should be sitting @ 7-2.

[stevieray]

I'm not giving up on him yet.