Chiefs I know everyone on CP hates Cassel..... - Page 4

Three7s · 11-16-2010, 06:02 PM

So, after listening to Petro's weekly PMS rant about people unfairly bashing Cassel, I started wondering. What would it take for people to actually.....LIKE Cassel? I don't know if there's a thread on this or not because I'm way too lazy to go through all of the Cassel bashing threads.

FWIW, I don't think Cassel is all that great either, but he can, at least, complete a pass once in awhile, unlike guys like Campbell.

What I think would sway my feelings toward him is to do what he did against the Broncos, only when it REALLY matters. I know it would go against our offensive philosophy, but teams are stacking the box on us so much that it looks like it has to be done.......so how about you guys?

wutamess · 11-16-2010, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Win me a couple of games when you're asked to.

He's been asked three times this season to make something happen for his team and win us a ballgame (Indy, Houston and Oakland).

All 3 times he's failed.

If Cassel can show that he's more than a guy that is passable when things are going well, I'll get behind him.

But as it stands, Cassel is a guy that is capable of not getting in the way and that's it. Granted, that's more than I thought he'd be, but it's still not good enough.

I don't think I've ever read a more off base post than this one EVER!
D. Bowe had nothing to do with us losing 2 out of those 3 games?

Someone's not being true to themselves.

**cdcox** · 11-16-2010, 07:06 PM

Two Lombardies.

The Ravens won a Superbowl with Dilfer and dumped him when they realized that continuing with him at QB wasn't a sustainable way of competing for Super Bowls. If Cassel wins two Super Bowls, I will admit my evaluation of him is flawed.

tk13 · 11-16-2010, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox

Two Lombardies.

The Ravens won a Superbowl with Dilfer and dumped him when they realized that continuing with him at QB wasn't a sustainable way of competing for Super Bowls. If Cassel wins two Super Bowls, I will admit my evaluation of him is flawed.

Okay I'm not going to defend the guy but that's lunacy. Even Peyton Manning doesn't have two Super Bowl wins.

stevieray · 11-16-2010, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by wutamess

I think people will start liking Cassle when D Bowe takes his head out of his ass and stops costing Cassle games and catch the fuggin passes he's supposed to catch.

With Cassels play, we should be sitting @ 7-2.

pretty much.

It's gonna rain tomorrow. cassels fault. film @ 11...

**DaFace** · 11-16-2010, 07:12 PM

Stop killing drives by missing wide-open receivers. That would be a start.

Oh, and if he's rolling out due to pressure and about to run out of bounds, throw the ball away instead of taking the sack.

**cdcox** · 11-16-2010, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

Okay I'm not going to defend the guy but that's lunacy. Even Peyton Manning doesn't have two Super Bowl wins.

Cassel doesn't play like Manning.

The reason no one likes Cassel is that they trust their eyes when they watch him play.

milkman · 11-16-2010, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

Okay I'm not going to defend the guy but that's lunacy. Even Peyton Manning doesn't have two Super Bowl wins.

In case you haven't noticed, there are some of us that critisize Manning for his playoff failures.

**Shogun** · 11-16-2010, 07:15 PM

If he turned into Peyton Manning

teedubya · 11-16-2010, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

1. Doesn't rack up all of his yardage and TDs in garbage time.
2. Stops overthrowing/underthrowing his WRs.
3. Actually completes a game winning drive.
4. Stops looking like a douchebag when he's on camera.
5. Stops taking unnecessary sacks and learns when to throw the ball away.
6. Stops getting happy feet in the pocket and freaking out when there is the slightest bit of pressure.

milkman · 11-16-2010, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Shogun

If he turned into Peyton Manning

I'd rather he turned into Kurt Warner.

teedubya · 11-16-2010, 07:17 PM

I'd like him if he was Mike Vick.

tk13 · 11-16-2010, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

In case you haven't noticed, there are some of us that critisize Manning for his playoff failures.

I don't disagree, but you have to be reasonable. The list of QB's in this free agent era that have won 2 Super Bowls is very small. Brady's really the only one that's carried more than one team to a Super Bowl win. Roethlisberger's done it but that first SB he went 9/21 or some garbage like that, he wasn't the guy he is now.

Chiefspants · 11-16-2010, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Cassel actually did complete a game winning drive against Buffalo.

If Lindell had hit that kick, everyone would be talking about how Cassel failed to mount a game-winning drive in overtime/the 4th quarter.

milkman · 11-16-2010, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

I don't disagree, but you have to be reasonable. The list of QB's in this free agent era that have won 2 Super Bowls is very small. Brady's really the only one that's carried more than one team to a Super Bowl win. Roethlisberger's done it but that first SB he went 9/21 or some garbage like that, he wasn't the guy he is now.

I get that.

The NFL has achieved it's goal of parody(sic).

But I would rather have a number of QBs in the playoffs over Peyton Manning, including his brother.

Of the greats, the only QB I like less in the playoffs is Favre.

**wazu** · 11-16-2010, 07:31 PM

Stop missing wide open receivers that are right in front of him less than 10 yards down the field. Start with that. If we can go 3 or 4 games without seeing that happen I'll re-open my mind to the possibility that he might not be a colossal disaster of an acquisition.

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Three7s MVP Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $10084719	I know everyone on CP hates Cassel..... So, after listening to Petro's weekly PMS rant about people unfairly bashing Cassel, I started wondering. What would it take for people to actually.....LIKE Cassel? I don't know if there's a thread on this or not because I'm way too lazy to go through all of the Cassel bashing threads. FWIW, I don't think Cassel is all that great either, but he can, at least, complete a pass once in awhile, unlike guys like Campbell. What I think would sway my feelings toward him is to do what he did against the Broncos, only when it REALLY matters. I know it would go against our offensive philosophy, but teams are stacking the box on us so much that it looks like it has to be done.......so how about you guys?
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wazu ... Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, MO Casino cash: $-1507705 VARSITY	Stop missing wide open receivers that are right in front of him less than 10 yards down the field. Start with that. If we can go 3 or 4 games without seeing that happen I'll re-open my mind to the possibility that he might not be a colossal disaster of an acquisition.
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