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Old 11-16-2010, 06:02 PM  
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I know everyone on CP hates Cassel.....

So, after listening to Petro's weekly PMS rant about people unfairly bashing Cassel, I started wondering. What would it take for people to actually.....LIKE Cassel? I don't know if there's a thread on this or not because I'm way too lazy to go through all of the Cassel bashing threads.

FWIW, I don't think Cassel is all that great either, but he can, at least, complete a pass once in awhile, unlike guys like Campbell.

What I think would sway my feelings toward him is to do what he did against the Broncos, only when it REALLY matters. I know it would go against our offensive philosophy, but teams are stacking the box on us so much that it looks like it has to be done.......so how about you guys?
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Old 11-17-2010, 12:32 AM   #121
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No, you didn't.

Watch his first pass attempt of the game. He throws it before the receiver has even turned around

Watch him on the sack-fumble that led to the defensive TD. He never sees the blitzer, nor does he stop from doing anything than looking at his primary receiver.

Watch him on any number of roll outs. The play that we almost exclusively run with Moeaki is a single read throw with a lot of noise. He never even attempts to go anywhere else with the ball. It's always a PA fake, a roll out, and a throw to Moeaki on the drag route.

You don't have to make reads against a prevent defense. That's why anyone can play against it. Everyone is back 12 yards, and as a result, everyone is open short. Thus, a series of short-intermediate throws over the middle of the field to wide open receivers who are held from large gains by the 4 deep shell.

When he had to "make reads" in the first half, he routinely shit himself and took a number of unnecessary sacks because he can't read a defense.

Stat lines =/= quality of play.
Exactly, and there is enough film out there on him, he is no longer surprising anyone. They can tee off on his tendancies.
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Old 11-17-2010, 12:41 AM   #122
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I'm inclined to think this, after several weeks of reading here.

If Matt Cassel were to call a press conference tomorrow and announce that he was resigning from football, effective immediately AND donating what he's already been paid to widows and orphans, the guys on CP would be posting, "Not enough. He should commit suicide. In the stadium. On camera."
Try us, please Matt!
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Old 11-17-2010, 12:57 AM   #123
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i would love to see him be a good nfl QB.

but, IT WONT HAPPEN.

Jesus Christ he sucks, if you think he is decent you are a ****ing moron. Watch the games over, see how many people he over throws, how he holds on to the balls..

It pisses me off just thinking about it
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Old 11-17-2010, 06:03 AM   #124
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i would love to see him be a good nfl QB.

but, IT WONT HAPPEN.

Jesus Christ he sucks, if you think he is decent you are a ****ing moron. Watch the games over, see how many people he over throws, how he holds on to the balls..

It pisses me off just thinking about it
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Old 11-17-2010, 06:34 AM   #125
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If he throws the ****ing ball away instead of taking a sack that will get me to calm my dislike of his QB skills.
Did you watch the first five games of the season? He did that with regularity.
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Old 11-17-2010, 06:58 AM   #126
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Did you watch the first five games of the season? He did that with regularity.
So what in the hell has happened in the last 3? He gets flushed out of the pocket, but instead of doing what a HS QB would do and throw it away, he takes the damn sack.
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Old 11-17-2010, 07:04 AM   #127
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So what in the hell has happened in the last 3? He gets flushed out of the pocket, but instead of doing what a HS QB would do and throw it away, he takes the damn sack.
Dexter McCluster.
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Old 11-17-2010, 07:09 AM   #128
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Dexter McCluster.
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Old 11-17-2010, 07:38 AM   #129
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why would anyone like a $63 million dollar game manager being passed off as a Franchise QB to a fanbase that hasn't sniffed a superbowl in decades?

what kind of self-hating idiot would continue in the belief that we don't deserve a real god damn QB for once in our sorry ****ing lives?

I mean really, after sticking your fingers up your butts and pretending that QB isn't the #1 reason we've blown ass for decades, after almost 27 years since we botched the draft and took Blackledge, we haven't made a single serious attempt to acquire and develop a QB instead preferring every used car demo program model piece of warmed over low risk low reward shit...to the never ending cheers of the Fanbase as it is represented by the stevierays and dented-skull types like patteau

the question is why would anyone 'like' a QB that everyone knows isn't good enough?

you don't watch the good QBs in the league and say to yourself, "why aren't we drafting a QB every single ****ing year until we get one of those?!?"

why isn't the only god damn objective of this team since FOREVER to do anything to acquire THAT QB, no matter how many failures it takes?

This franchise isn't doing jack shit until it gets the QB position figured out. You can draft midget scat backs and punt returners from now until the next Elvis Bono comes...
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Old 11-17-2010, 07:40 AM   #130
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say to yourself, "why aren't we drafting a QB every single ****ing year until we get one of those?!?"

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Old 11-17-2010, 07:52 AM   #131
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Matt Cassel can get on a flaming aids Segway and ride off a cliff.


And so can all of his fans.
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Old 11-17-2010, 08:00 AM   #132
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Old 11-17-2010, 08:13 AM   #133
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Our defense has played well enough this year that we could be 7-2.
So has Matt Cassel.
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Old 11-17-2010, 08:17 AM   #134
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I really dont know how you pin the Raider loss squarely on Cassel. When they got the break, he hit Bowe on the TD. The defense failed to hold leads against the Texans and Raiders.

The Colts loss though, was squarely on him.
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So what in the hell has happened in the last 3? He gets flushed out of the pocket, but instead of doing what a HS QB would do and throw it away, he takes the damn sack.
I don't know what all has happened although one thing that's happened is that the offensive line has played poorly. I'd imagine that both Cassel and the defensive lines he's faced share the rest of the blame. Instead, it seems like the CP conventional wisdom is that it's all Cassel, despite the solid play in this regard that he demonstrated in the first 5 games.
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