Chiefs I know everyone on CP hates Cassel.....

Micjones · 11-17-2010, 09:39 AM

There's no balance to this discussion about Matt Cassel.
It's either extreme right or extreme left.

There are people who claim he's unable to hit an open target.
The same people fail to give him credit when he does in a game like last week. They say it's because he's facing softer coverage, but why should that matter if he's so inaccurate?

Then on the other side there are those who never criticize him. They ignore the over/underthrows. They ignore how quickly he gets uncomfortable with pressure around him. They turn a blind eye to him hanging on to the ball too long.

I'm not a fan of Matt Cassel, but I can criticize him when he deserves it...
And praise him when he deserves it.

QB's stink up the joint against Prevent defenses every week.
It was maddening to see people ignore a 4 TD game (with no INT's) entirely.

I'll be the first one to tell you that that success should've come earlier in the game, but I'll never turn my nose up to that kind of performance entirely.

He's not the answer long-term. I think this team should draft a QB come April, but I also think he's done good things this year.

He has just as many TD's as he did in '09...with only a fourth as many INT's.
And there are still 7 left to play. He's also completing just under 60% of his passes. Give credit where credit is due.

**BigMeatballDave** · 11-17-2010, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

There's no balance to this discussion about Matt Cassel.
It's either extreme right or extreme left.

There are people who claim he's unable to hit an open target.
The same people fail to give him credit when he does in a game like last week. They say it's because he's facing softer coverage, but why should that matter if he's so inaccurate?

Then on the other side there are those who never criticize him. They ignore the over/underthrows. They ignore how quickly he gets uncomfortable with pressure around him. They turn a blind eye to him hanging on to the ball too long.

I'm not a fan of Matt Cassel, but I can criticize him when he deserves it...
And praise him when he deserves it.

QB's stink up the joint against Prevent defenses every week.
It was maddening to see people ignore a 4 TD game (with no INT's) entirely.

I'll be the first one to tell you that that success should've come earlier in the game, but I'll never turn my nose up to that kind of performance entirely.

He's not the answer long-term. I think this team should draft a QB come April, but I also think he's done good things this year.

He has just as many TD's as he did in '09...with only a fourth as many INT's.
And there are still 7 left to play. He's also completing just under 60% of his passes. Give credit where credit is due.

Oh, for the love of Christ.

Micjones · 11-17-2010, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BCD

Oh, for the love of Christ.

Eloquent. Don't trouble yourself with assembling an intelligible response.
[Insert boilerplate insult and standard Cassel criticism]

**BigMeatballDave** · 11-17-2010, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

Eloquent. Don't trouble yourself with assembling an intelligible response.
[Insert boilerplate insult and standard Cassel criticism]

I cant. No one can. You're just not getting it.

Micjones · 11-17-2010, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BCD

I cant. No one can. You're just not getting it.

Compelling.

Norman Einstein · 11-17-2010, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by BCD

I cant. No one can. You're just not getting it.

He gets it, but he is like many here. He's on the right side of the fence and the rest seems to be totally downfield from the left side of the fence.

It doesn't matter how much one side tries to explain what is going on regarding the other view there is just no middle ground.

You on the left side only see the down side, those on the right side see the potential and are not as quick to judge. The right side hates to lose as much as those on the left, but they refuse to tack a loss purely on the QB where it seems that is the only target you have in your sights.

Reerun_KC · 11-17-2010, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BCD

Oh, for the love of Christ.

I think this proves the very extreme hate of everything Matty Light...

Micjones · 11-17-2010, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

I think this proves the very extreme hate of everything Matty Light...

There's nothing the man can do to change some people's minds.

**BigMeatballDave** · 11-17-2010, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

There's nothing the man can do to change some people's minds.

Inflating his stats against a prevent D wont do it. If you think what cassel did during that 2nd half was impressive, then there is no help for you.

Reerun_KC · 11-17-2010, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BCD

Inflating his stats against a prevent D wont do it. If you think what cassel did during that 2nd half was impressive, then there is no help for you.

I was just as disturbed with the defense in the first half as you are with matty light...

Sully · 11-17-2010, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

There's nothing the man can do to change some people's minds.

There have been several posters in this very thread who have laid out exactly what he can do to change peoples' minds.

patteeu · 11-17-2010, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Sully

There have been several posters in this very thread who have laid out exactly what he can do to change peoples' minds.

"some people's minds" is different than "all minds"

bobbything · 11-17-2010, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Sully

There have been several posters in this very thread who have laid out exactly what he can do to change peoples' minds.

If he can increase his 3rd down conversion % by about 5-8%, I'll be happy. That won't happen though. His solid stats and passer rating is masking his horrible inefficiency in 3rd down conversions.

**BigMeatballDave** · 11-17-2010, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by bobbything

If he can increase his 3rd down conversion % by about 5-8%, I'll be happy. That won't happen though. His solid stats and passer rating is masking his horrible inefficiency in 3rd down conversions.

I never knew it was possible to be SO bad on 3rd down.

Norman Einstein · 11-17-2010, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Sully

There have been several posters in this very thread who have laid out exactly what he can do to change peoples' minds.

Some unrealistic expectations for the instant gratification crowd. They won't give him a chance to achieve those goals nor will they give him credit if he does.

11-17-2010, 09:39 AM	#1
Micjones Whose house? Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $10005180	There's no balance to this discussion about Matt Cassel. It's either extreme right or extreme left. There are people who claim he's unable to hit an open target. The same people fail to give him credit when he does in a game like last week. They say it's because he's facing softer coverage, but why should that matter if he's so inaccurate? Then on the other side there are those who never criticize him. They ignore the over/underthrows. They ignore how quickly he gets uncomfortable with pressure around him. They turn a blind eye to him hanging on to the ball too long. I'm not a fan of Matt Cassel, but I can criticize him when he deserves it... And praise him when he deserves it. QB's stink up the joint against Prevent defenses every week. It was maddening to see people ignore a 4 TD game (with no INT's) entirely. I'll be the first one to tell you that that success should've come earlier in the game, but I'll never turn my nose up to that kind of performance entirely. He's not the answer long-term. I think this team should draft a QB come April, but I also think he's done good things this year. He has just as many TD's as he did in '09...with only a fourth as many INT's. And there are still 7 left to play. He's also completing just under 60% of his passes. Give credit where credit is due. __________________ It's like when I'm right I'm right, when I'm wrong I could been right, so I'm still right cause I coulda been wrong.
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