Chiefs I know everyone on CP hates Cassel..... - Page 14

Three7s · 11-16-2010, 06:02 PM

So, after listening to Petro's weekly PMS rant about people unfairly bashing Cassel, I started wondering. What would it take for people to actually.....LIKE Cassel? I don't know if there's a thread on this or not because I'm way too lazy to go through all of the Cassel bashing threads.

FWIW, I don't think Cassel is all that great either, but he can, at least, complete a pass once in awhile, unlike guys like Campbell.

What I think would sway my feelings toward him is to do what he did against the Broncos, only when it REALLY matters. I know it would go against our offensive philosophy, but teams are stacking the box on us so much that it looks like it has to be done.......so how about you guys?

**BigMeatballDave** · 11-17-2010, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Norman Einstein

You can't bet on that. Cassel isn't as bad as you guys want to think. He is following the game plan.

He's not nearly as good as you think, either.

Brock · 11-17-2010, 10:04 AM

I don't think he's bad. I think he's a good backup.

Norman Einstein · 11-17-2010, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

You up to the bet? How about if Chiefs win a playoff game while Cassel is starting, you take a one year ban from CP... But it has to be a ban by the mods... Otherwise you would just welch like a little bitch...

And if the Chiefs never win a playoff game while Cassel is the QB, I will take a one year Mod ban....

Lets see how confident you are... Lets see you put your confidence where your man pleaser is...

I think you need to be specific on the bet. What if the Chiefs win in the playoffs but it's a special teams TD that wins it? I would be specific enough to say that the Chiefs win a playoff game with Cassel as the starting QB. Otherwise there is wiggle room.

Norman Einstein · 11-17-2010, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BCD

Oh, for the love of Christ.

So you are part of the left?

What would it take for you to understand that Cassel may not be as good as the top 5, but he is ranked in the top 10 in the league.

If we had the #32 QB, as many of you seem to rate Cassel, I can pretty much stand on the fact that we wouldn't have won 5 games so far this season.

Sully · 11-17-2010, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

There's nothing the man can do to change some people's minds.

There have been several posters in this very thread who have laid out exactly what he can do to change peoples' minds.

patteeu · 11-17-2010, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Sully

There have been several posters in this very thread who have laid out exactly what he can do to change peoples' minds.

"some people's minds" is different than "all minds"

**BigMeatballDave** · 11-17-2010, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Norman Einstein

So you are part of the left?

What would it take for you to understand that Cassel may not be as good as the top 5, but he is ranked in the top 10 in the league.

If we had the #32 QB, as many of you seem to rate Cassel, I can pretty much stand on the fact that we wouldn't have won 5 games so far this season.

Rankings/Ratings are vastly overrated. His current rating is higher than Manning's.

Sully · 11-17-2010, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

and people who have already made their decision that he's already exceeding his upside maximum (don't ask me how they get there).

Yes.
For God's sake, don't ask how they got there, considering it's been discussed with those poster's evidence in every thread about the guy.

Norman Einstein · 11-17-2010, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse

Thank you.

Damon Huard > Matt Cassel

Not in this lifetime. Tyler Thigpen was better than Damon Horrid. The bottom 5 in the NFL rankings were better than Horrid.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/pl...0/seasontype/2

Samson · 11-17-2010, 10:11 AM

He's an average quarterback, and we still have a below average defense.

He's proved he can score a go-ahead touchdown, on the road, in the 4th quarter, against a division rival...but our defense has constantly proved they CANNOT consistently hold a team when it really matters.

He's an average quarterback, and we still have a below average defense.

Hammock Parties · 11-17-2010, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Norman Einstein

Not in this lifetime. Tyler Thigpen was better than Damon Horrid. The bottom 5 in the NFL rankings were better than Horrid.

I'm not going to debate Damon Huard. It's 2010.

All I will say is he stepped into his throws.

bobbything · 11-17-2010, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Sully

There have been several posters in this very thread who have laid out exactly what he can do to change peoples' minds.

If he can increase his 3rd down conversion % by about 5-8%, I'll be happy. That won't happen though. His solid stats and passer rating is masking his horrible inefficiency in 3rd down conversions.

**BigMeatballDave** · 11-17-2010, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Norman Einstein

Not in this lifetime. Tyler Thigpen was better than Damon Horrid. The bottom 5 in the NFL rankings were better than Horrid.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/pl...0/seasontype/2

Explain how Bowe caught 86 balls in his 2nd season then?

**BigMeatballDave** · 11-17-2010, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by bobbything

If he can increase his 3rd down conversion % by about 5-8%, I'll be happy. That won't happen though. His solid stats and passer rating is masking his horrible inefficiency in 3rd down conversions.

I never knew it was possible to be SO bad on 3rd down.

patteeu · 11-17-2010, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Sully

Yes.
For God's sake, don't ask how they got there, considering it's been discussed with those poster's evidence in every thread about the guy.

I think you're too uptight to read clearly today, Sully. Settle down, take a deep breath and think about the meanings of the words.

Relax. Breathe.

Now, can you explain how someone would believe that Matt Cassel has already exceeded his maximum potential? If you read that right, you should be thinking to yourself, "no, I can't". Neither can I.

11-16-2010, 06:02 PM
Three7s MVP Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $10084719	I know everyone on CP hates Cassel..... So, after listening to Petro's weekly PMS rant about people unfairly bashing Cassel, I started wondering. What would it take for people to actually.....LIKE Cassel? I don't know if there's a thread on this or not because I'm way too lazy to go through all of the Cassel bashing threads. FWIW, I don't think Cassel is all that great either, but he can, at least, complete a pass once in awhile, unlike guys like Campbell. What I think would sway my feelings toward him is to do what he did against the Broncos, only when it REALLY matters. I know it would go against our offensive philosophy, but teams are stacking the box on us so much that it looks like it has to be done.......so how about you guys?
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Brock Say hello to my little friend Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Larryville Casino cash: $9598422	I don't think he's bad. I think he's a good backup.
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Samson Starter Join Date: Nov 2007 Casino cash: $10004900	He's an average quarterback, and we still have a below average defense. He's proved he can score a go-ahead touchdown, on the road, in the 4th quarter, against a division rival...but our defense has constantly proved they CANNOT consistently hold a team when it really matters. He's an average quarterback, and we still have a below average defense.
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