I know everyone on CP hates Cassel.....

[Bewbies]

Originally Posted by Norman Einstein

You would lose that bet, but don't let facts deter you.

Quarterback Rating Leaders - Qualified
RK PLAYER TEAM ATT COMP PCT YDS YDS/A LONG TD INT SACK RATE YDS/G
1 Michael Vick, QB PHI 153 96 62.7 1350 8.82 88 11 0 15 115.1 225
2 David Garrard, QB JAC 180 125 69.4 1440 8.00 52 15 7 17 104.9 180
3 Philip Rivers, QB SD 329 215 65.4 2944 8.95 59 19 8 22 102.9 327
4 Tom Brady, QB NE 304 196 64.5 2176 7.16 65 17 4 13 98.8 242
5 Vince Young, QB TEN 140 81 57.9 1090 7.79 71 10 3 12 97.6 136
6 Ben Roethlisberger, QB PIT 158 99 62.7 1304 8.25 53 9 4 12 97.1 261
7 Kyle Orton, QB DEN 350 217 62.0 2806 8.02 71 16 5 21 96.4 312
8 Tony Romo, QB DAL 213 148 69.5 1605 7.54 69 11 7 7 94.9 268
9 Matt Cassel, QB KC 267 158 59.2 1881 7.05 53 16 4 15 94.5 209
10 Peyton Manning, QB IND 386 248 64.2 2663 6.90 73 16 4 12 93.9 296

Cassel is not as bad as you think. What are you going to do if he does happen to get the Chiefs into the playoffs? or further?

Basically my point is that none of the people proclaiming to know what is going on doesn't have a clue. If they did I'm sure they wouldn't sitting their ass talking shit on the internet.

Your list is very accurate. Anyone who watches football knows that David Gerrard is better than Brady, Manning, Brees, Rivers, Rodgers, Ryan and on and on and on.

How about this. Which current NFL QB's would you keep Cassel over?

[Norman Einstein]

Originally Posted by Bewbies

Your list is very accurate. Anyone who watches football knows that David Gerrard is better than Brady, Manning, Brees, Rivers, Rodgers, Ryan and on and on and on.

How about this. Which current NFL QB's would you keep Cassel over?

As I don't really have a choice it's a moot question. Regardless of who I would pick we would still have Cassel. All I can really do is hope that he get's his game on and if he stays in KC that he does the job we need. If he doesn't stay in KC then it again is a moot point.

As it is we have Cassel and some also rans. We are not getting anyone on the list this year. I don't think worrying about it is something that will help me, the Chiefs or anyone else.

[Bewbies]

Originally Posted by Norman Einstein

As I don't really have a choice it's a moot question. Regardless of who I would pick we would still have Cassel. All I can really do is hope that he get's his game on and if he stays in KC that he does the job we need. If he doesn't stay in KC then it again is a moot point.

As it is we have Cassel and some also rans. We are not getting anyone on the list this year. I don't think worrying about it is something that will help me, the Chiefs or anyone else.

I'm sure Colts fans would give a similar answer to this.

Cassel is a top QB but I can't name anyone he's better than!!

[Norman Einstein]

Originally Posted by Bewbies

I'm sure Colts fans would give a similar answer to this.

Cassel is a top QB but I can't name anyone he's better than!!

I didn't say there weren't any better, per your question: [b]Which current NFL QB's would you keep Cassel over?]/b] it is pointless as we have Cassel and none of the top 20, other than Cassel are coming to KC this year and most likely next.

Why spend the energy wishing for something that will never happen?

[Bewbies]

Originally Posted by Norman Einstein

I didn't say there weren't any better, per your question: [b]Which current NFL QB's would you keep Cassel over?]/b] it is pointless as we have Cassel and none of the top 20, other than Cassel are coming to KC this year and most likely next.

Why spend the energy wishing for something that will never happen?

Who is Cassel better than? You said he's a top 10 QB and you won't tell anyone who he's better than.

I'll rank him.

1-28
29. Cassel
30. Fitzpatrick
31. Arizona QB of the week
32. Carolina QB of the week.

[Norman Einstein]

Originally Posted by Bewbies

Who is Cassel better than? You said he's a top 10 QB and you won't tell anyone who he's better than.

I'll rank him.

1-28
29. Cassel
30. Fitzpatrick
31. Arizona QB of the week
32. Carolina QB of the week.

I didn't say he was a top 10 QB. The NFL ranking system has him at #9. I don't think your ranking is anywhere near valid, but it's apparent you get to have your opinion and what I think and have said I'm not allowed to do because it doesn't jibe with what you believe.

Are we done yet? Well, at least I am. You can continue to use your opinion to invalidate the NFL stats.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/pl...0/seasontype/2

Here's one that will make you feel better about yourself.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/playerrankings

[Bewbies]

Originally Posted by Norman Einstein

I didn't say he was a top 10 QB. The NFL ranking system has him at #9.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/pl...0/seasontype/2

Here's one that will make you feel better about yourself.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/playerrankings

What?

Originally Posted by Norman Einstein

5-4 record and #9 on the top 10 list of QB's in the league. Shitty? I suggest that your opinion falls short of being accurate.

Originally Posted by Norman Einstein

Then I agree, the people are talking on emotions and not in reality.

In reality Cassel is in the top 10. In reality the Chiefs are better now than they have been in at least the last 2 years and maybe as many as 5 years.

I do disagree with the 2nd year of the rebuild. Cassel is in his second year with the Chiefs but he is working with his third offensive coordinator. Gailey, Haley and now Weis.

Originally Posted by Norman Einstein

You would lose that bet, but don't let facts deter you.

Quarterback Rating Leaders - Qualified
RK PLAYER TEAM ATT COMP PCT YDS YDS/A LONG TD INT SACK RATE YDS/G
1 Michael Vick, QB PHI 153 96 62.7 1350 8.82 88 11 0 15 115.1 225
2 David Garrard, QB JAC 180 125 69.4 1440 8.00 52 15 7 17 104.9 180
3 Philip Rivers, QB SD 329 215 65.4 2944 8.95 59 19 8 22 102.9 327
4 Tom Brady, QB NE 304 196 64.5 2176 7.16 65 17 4 13 98.8 242
5 Vince Young, QB TEN 140 81 57.9 1090 7.79 71 10 3 12 97.6 136
6 Ben Roethlisberger, QB PIT 158 99 62.7 1304 8.25 53 9 4 12 97.1 261
7 Kyle Orton, QB DEN 350 217 62.0 2806 8.02 71 16 5 21 96.4 312
8 Tony Romo, QB DAL 213 148 69.5 1605 7.54 69 11 7 7 94.9 268
9 Matt Cassel, QB KC 267 158 59.2 1881 7.05 53 16 4 15 94.5 209
10 Peyton Manning, QB IND 386 248 64.2 2663 6.90 73 16 4 12 93.9 296

Cassel is not as bad as you think. What are you going to do if he does happen to get the Chiefs into the playoffs? or further?

Basically my point is that none of the people proclaiming to know what is going on doesn't have a clue. If they did I'm sure they wouldn't sitting their ass talking shit on the internet.

You spend a lot of time pointing out a guy is a top 10 QB for never saying he's a top 10 guy. I know if I think the guy isn't top 10 I'm sure going to spend a lot of time showing everyone why he is.

And people thought I was you.

You are so secure in Cassel you can't even take time to tell us who you think is a better QB. I'm going to take that as you think he's the best QB in the league. Dumbass.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Norman Einstein

I didn't say there weren't any better, per your question: [b]Which current NFL QB's would you keep Cassel over?]/b] it is pointless as we have Cassel and none of the top 20, other than Cassel are coming to KC this year and most likely next.

Why spend the energy wishing for something that will never happen?

So your whole argument is that he's our QB and he's better than anyone else we have.

Dumbass.

[Norman Einstein]

Originally Posted by milkman

So your whole argument is that he's our QB and he's better than anyone else we have.

Dumbass.

Your lower intellect is really shining through there mm.

Who you gonna call to replace Cassel?

Just in case you haven't noticed the team is 5-4, better now than in the past two years. In the first year of a new offense. A passing game that is called from the sidelines and a few exceptionally egregious dropped passes by the "best WR" we have on the team.

For those of you that feel that Cassel is the only problem here really need to get a grip on the game.

How are you going to write off his salary when you throw him out during the season?

It sounds like you, as well as many others, are ready to throw away this season, the first decent first half of a season in 5 years.

You tell me how you are going to handle this, then I'll send to Arrowhead in your name and they can call you for further advice on what to do to make the franchise better.

You think I'm happy with the lack of production, but you are just as full of shit as ever. I want more, but at the moment we don't have what we need. You can either support what we do have or be that fan that gives up and starts rooting for the other team in the Chiefs game every week. That seems to be your type.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Norman Einstein

Your lower intellect is really shining through there mm.

Who you gonna call to replace Cassel?

What you can't seem to get through that thick skull of yours is that many of us, myself included, are not calling for his repacement at this very minute.

I've said more than once that Croyle is not a solution.

We are simply discussing his shortcomings and why he needs to be replaced at the end of the season.

Just in case you haven't noticed the team is 5-4, better now than in the past two years. In the first year of a new offense. A passing game that is called from the sidelines and a few exceptionally egregious dropped passes by the "best WR" we have on the team.

For those of you that feel that Cassel is the only problem here really need to get a grip on the game.

And no one has said he's the only problem.
He is, however, the most important problem.

How are you going to write off his salary when you throw him out during the season?

His salary after this season is not guaranteed, so we don't have to write off his salary.
He gets cut before his roster bonus comes due, he's not owed a damn thing.

[qoute]It sounds like you, as well as many others, are ready to throw away this season, the first decent first half of a season in 5 years.

You tell me how you are going to handle this, then I'll send to Arrowhead in your name and they can call you for further advice on what to do to make the franchise better.[/quote]

No one is ready to throw away this season.
We want to see thsi team build on this season, which includes not only finding a better QB, but also improving the O-Line further, improving the receiver's, the NT position and finding another pass rusher.

After which, we can hopefully add depth.

You think I'm happy with the lack of production, but you are just as full of shit as ever. I want more, but at the moment we don't have what we need. You can either support what we do have or be that fan that gives up and starts rooting for the other team in the Chiefs game every week. That seems to be your type.

Again, I am discussing what I see as a need.

I don't give a rat's ass that you aren't interested in discussing it.

And that is essentially what all of your posts amount to.
Cassel is our QB, so why talk about his shortcomings?

[MadMax]

Originally Posted by Norman Einstein

Your lower intellect is really shining through there mm.

Who you gonna call to replace Cassel?

Just in case you haven't noticed the team is 5-4, better now than in the past two years. In the first year of a new offense. A passing game that is called from the sidelines and a few exceptionally egregious dropped passes by the "best WR" we have on the team.

For those of you that feel that Cassel is the only problem here really need to get a grip on the game.

How are you going to write off his salary when you throw him out during the season?

It sounds like you, as well as many others, are ready to throw away this season, the first decent first half of a season in 5 years.

You tell me how you are going to handle this, then I'll send to Arrowhead in your name and they can call you for further advice on what to do to make the franchise better.

You think I'm happy with the lack of production, but you are just as full of shit as ever. I want more, but at the moment we don't have what we need. You can either support what we do have or be that fan that gives up and starts rooting for the other team in the Chiefs game every week. That seems to be your type.

I read a lot here, but WTF did you Say ????