Royals 2010 Kansas City Royals Repository thread - Page 193

SPchief · 04:22 PM

All Royals All The Time!

After consultation with others who peruse the game threads we decided to create this as a repository for all things Royals. Minor league news, AL (ahem) Central (thanks Vonne) news and anything Royals can be found here.

alnorth, me and atleast 5 others will continue the game threads as usual. But if you locate something of interest.. ANYTHING.. deals on apparel, best ways in/out of the stadium, giveaways, great stories from this season or from seasons gone by, rumors, trades, anything.... feel free to post it here.

If a big story breaks, you can still start a thread about it. There is merely an all inclusive thread that will make a easy for us all to keep up with all things Royals.

Welcome! "Grab a Brew... don't cost nuthin"...[spills beer on feet]

siberian khatru · 12-08-2010, 01:50 PM

We all knew this day was coming.

If rape is inevitable, just lie back and enjoy it.

siberian khatru · 12-08-2010, 01:55 PM

Heh, Mariners sign Jack Cust for the same deal Frenchy got.

Be still, my sabermetric heart.

**DeezNutz** · 12-08-2010, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru

We all knew this day was coming.

If rape is inevitable, just lie back and enjoy it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru

Heh, Mariners sign Jack Cust for the same deal Frenchy got.

Be still, my sabermetric heart.

I think we're perfectly justified in laughing at how small the rapists' penis is.

DJ's left nut · 12-08-2010, 02:35 PM

Would you all have any interest in Brendan Ryan?

He's probably the best defensive SS in the NL, possibly the best in all of baseball.

And because our manager is a gigantic asshole, we're going to be trading him for a pile of used balls, but not until after LaRussa tells the entire free world that Ryan's a hyper ****stick that destroys clubhouses by virtue of being a bit of a gnat.

I mean hell, we only have personalities like LaRussa and Pujols in the dugout - lets just blame Bulgaria for World War II here. I'm sure our hyper shortstop was the reason the whole team laid down and died last season and not our uptight ****smoke of a manager or anything. Makes perfect sense.

You guys will love him. He's gritty as hell, has some speed, isn't completely incompetent with the bat (rought seasons last year trying to learn McGwire's "teachings" while also dealing with a wrist injury). He's outstanding at shortstop though. He'll have some maddening throwing errors when he kinda loses focus, but his range is virtually unrivaled in the league.

And you could probably get him for someone like Chris Getz, if it even took that much.

**DeezNutz** · 12-08-2010, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Would you all have any interest in Brendan Ryan?

He's probably the best defensive SS in the NL, possibly the best in all of baseball.

And because our manager is a gigantic asshole, we're going to be trading him for a pile of used balls, but not until after LaRussa tells the entire free world that Ryan's a hyper ****stick that destroys clubhouses by virtue of being a bit of a gnat.

I mean hell, we only have personalities like LaRussa and Pujols in the dugout - lets just blame Bulgaria for World War II here. I'm sure our hyper shortstop was the reason the whole team laid down and died last season and not our uptight ****smoke of a manager or anything. Makes perfect sense.

You guys will love him. He's gritty as hell, has some speed, isn't completely incompetent with the bat (rought seasons last year trying to learn McGwire's "teachings" while also dealing with a wrist injury). He's outstanding at shortstop though. He'll have some maddening throwing errors when he kinda loses focus, but his range is virtually unrivaled in the league.

And you could probably get him for someone like Chris Getz, if it even took that much.

Why would we want to downgrade at the position? /Moore

Pitt Gorilla · 12-08-2010, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Would you all have any interest in Brendan Ryan?

He's probably the best defensive SS in the NL, possibly the best in all of baseball.

And because our manager is a gigantic asshole, we're going to be trading him for a pile of used balls, but not until after LaRussa tells the entire free world that Ryan's a hyper ****stick that destroys clubhouses by virtue of being a bit of a gnat.

I mean hell, we only have personalities like LaRussa and Pujols in the dugout - lets just blame Bulgaria for World War II here. I'm sure our hyper shortstop was the reason the whole team laid down and died last season and not our uptight ****smoke of a manager or anything. Makes perfect sense.

You guys will love him. He's gritty as hell, has some speed, isn't completely incompetent with the bat (rought seasons last year trying to learn McGwire's "teachings" while also dealing with a wrist injury). He's outstanding at shortstop though. He'll have some maddening throwing errors when he kinda loses focus, but his range is virtually unrivaled in the league.

And you could probably get him for someone like Chris Getz, if it even took that much.

I'd flip him for Getz yesterday.

jbwm89 · 12-08-2010, 03:16 PM

2.5 mil plus 500k in incentives.....meh

**doomy3** · 12-08-2010, 03:30 PM

Zack Greinke-S- Royals Dec. 8 - 4:17 pm et

Ed Price of AOL Fanhouse reports that the Nationals are being "aggressive" in trade talks for Royals right-hander Zack Greinke.
The Nats have to put together a nice package of prospects in order to actually land Greinke. They do have some significant youngsters, but obviously won't be willing to part with guys like Drew Storen, Bryce Harper or Stephen Strasburg. Maybe the Royals will be attracted to Danny Espinosa, Ian Desmond or Derek Norris. This is all speculation for now.
Source: Ed Price on Twitter
Related: Nationals

DJ's left nut · 12-08-2010, 03:36 PM

If they "obviously won't be willing to part with Drew Storen" than they're not really all that serious about getting Greinke.

Storen's a very nice relief prospect and probably a future closer. But that's all - Why the hell would he be untouchable in a deal for Zack Greinke?

Sometimes GMs are really stupid.

**DeezNutz** · 12-08-2010, 03:37 PM

Manager Ned Yost said that Francoeur will be the Royals' regular right fielder and bat somewhere in the middle of the lineup.

The chance to play every day with the Royals rather than be in a platoon situation elsewhere appealed to Francoeur.

"I do want to play every day. I'm not the best guy to sit on the bench," he said by phone. "I have ants in my pants."

http://kansascity.royals.mlb.com/new...ews_kc&c_id=kc

Hey, who cares that Maier is both better and cheaper?

**alnorth** · 12-08-2010, 03:40 PM

Well....

Could have been worse. One year, maybe (hopefully not) two for very little money. We get to laugh at Frenchy for a year then cut his ass loose when Wil Myers learns right and blasts his way through Omaha.

DJ's left nut · 12-08-2010, 03:45 PM

Maier isn't better.

Frenchy has a ton of flaws, but he's still a very talented guy.

No, he never draws walks. But it's not because he has massive holes in his swing, but because he's just an aggressive hitter. Meanwhile, his OBP last season was .050 higher than his AVG, which really isn't that bad. He doesn't K much, so you know his wrists are fairly quick and his plate coverage is solid. He's shown he can hit for power and he's shown he can hit for a passable average.

So if you take the .280 hitter he was early in his career and combine it with the .440 slg% he had and the .050 gap in his OBP/AVG that he's learned over the last few years and you end up with a guy that puts up an OPS around .800 while playing plus defense.

No, he's not going to be the superstar people thought he would be in Atlanta (that was always fools gold, I knew that even then). But there's no reason to believe that he can't be an average hitter with an above average glove.

C'mon - it's Mitch Maier. That kid isn't very good. Hell, Maier is actually 1.5 years older than Frenchy (true story).

Now it's probably not going to happen. He'll probably disappoint here like he has elsewhere, but it's absolutely worth giving up on a 29 year old, career 5th OFer like Mitch Maier to find out. His upside is probably his 2007 season, but that's actually pretty solid to have in your 6 hole.

Just sayin'...

**doomy3** · 12-08-2010, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Manager Ned Yost said that Francoeur will be the Royals' regular right fielder and bat somewhere in the middle of the lineup.

The chance to play every day with the Royals rather than be in a platoon situation elsewhere appealed to Francoeur.

"I do want to play every day. I'm not the best guy to sit on the bench," he said by phone. "I have ants in my pants."

http://kansascity.royals.mlb.com/new...ews_kc&c_id=kc

Hey, who cares that Maier is both better and cheaper?

Maier is certainly not better.

siberian khatru · 12-08-2010, 03:49 PM

I still like the idea of platooning Frenchy and Lough. You play to Frenchy's strengths while breaking in a rookie slowly, putting him in favorable situations, see how much DDJ he's got in him.

Obviously ain't gonna happen with this brain trust, though.

**DeezNutz** · 12-08-2010, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doomy3

Maier is certainly not better.

False.

Better OPS and similar slug and isn't completely worthless against RHP. With experience, he'd also likely play a better RF, since he's a competent option in CF.

We got less and paid more. That's how our GM rolls when it comes to ML roster construction.

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12-08-2010, 01:50 PM	#2881
siberian khatru 21st Century Schizoid Fan Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Gates of Delirium Casino cash: $-1155050	We all knew this day was coming. If rape is inevitable, just lie back and enjoy it.
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12-08-2010, 01:55 PM	#2882
siberian khatru 21st Century Schizoid Fan Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Gates of Delirium Casino cash: $-1155050	Heh, Mariners sign Jack Cust for the same deal Frenchy got. Be still, my sabermetric heart.
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12-08-2010, 02:35 PM	#2884
DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $-650901	Would you all have any interest in Brendan Ryan? He's probably the best defensive SS in the NL, possibly the best in all of baseball. And because our manager is a gigantic asshole, we're going to be trading him for a pile of used balls, but not until after LaRussa tells the entire free world that Ryan's a hyper **stick that destroys clubhouses by virtue of being a bit of a gnat. I mean hell, we only have personalities like LaRussa and Pujols in the dugout - lets just blame Bulgaria for World War II here. I'm sure our hyper shortstop was the reason the whole team laid down and died last season and not our uptight **smoke of a manager or anything. Makes perfect sense. You guys will love him. He's gritty as hell, has some speed, isn't completely incompetent with the bat (rought seasons last year trying to learn McGwire's "teachings" while also dealing with a wrist injury). He's outstanding at shortstop though. He'll have some maddening throwing errors when he kinda loses focus, but his range is virtually unrivaled in the league. And you could probably get him for someone like Chris Getz, if it even took that much. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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12-08-2010, 03:16 PM	#2887
jbwm89 MIZZOU Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Saint Joseph Casino cash: $10005040	2.5 mil plus 500k in incentives.....meh
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12-08-2010, 03:30 PM	#2888
doomy3 Supporter Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $3323539	Zack Greinke-S- Royals Dec. 8 - 4:17 pm et Ed Price of AOL Fanhouse reports that the Nationals are being "aggressive" in trade talks for Royals right-hander Zack Greinke. The Nats have to put together a nice package of prospects in order to actually land Greinke. They do have some significant youngsters, but obviously won't be willing to part with guys like Drew Storen, Bryce Harper or Stephen Strasburg. Maybe the Royals will be attracted to Danny Espinosa, Ian Desmond or Derek Norris. This is all speculation for now. Source: Ed Price on Twitter Related: Nationals
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12-08-2010, 03:36 PM	#2889
DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $-650901	If they "obviously won't be willing to part with Drew Storen" than they're not really all that serious about getting Greinke. Storen's a very nice relief prospect and probably a future closer. But that's all - Why the hell would he be untouchable in a deal for Zack Greinke? Sometimes GMs are really stupid. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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12-08-2010, 03:40 PM	#2891
alnorth . Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $57156239	Well.... Could have been worse. One year, maybe (hopefully not) two for very little money. We get to laugh at Frenchy for a year then cut his ass loose when Wil Myers learns right and blasts his way through Omaha. __________________ how many emo kids does it take to change a lightbulb? HOW MANY?! none they just sit in the dark and cry
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12-08-2010, 03:45 PM	#2892
DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $-650901	Maier isn't better. Frenchy has a ton of flaws, but he's still a very talented guy. No, he never draws walks. But it's not because he has massive holes in his swing, but because he's just an aggressive hitter. Meanwhile, his OBP last season was .050 higher than his AVG, which really isn't that bad. He doesn't K much, so you know his wrists are fairly quick and his plate coverage is solid. He's shown he can hit for power and he's shown he can hit for a passable average. So if you take the .280 hitter he was early in his career and combine it with the .440 slg% he had and the .050 gap in his OBP/AVG that he's learned over the last few years and you end up with a guy that puts up an OPS around .800 while playing plus defense. No, he's not going to be the superstar people thought he would be in Atlanta (that was always fools gold, I knew that even then). But there's no reason to believe that he can't be an average hitter with an above average glove. C'mon - it's Mitch Maier. That kid isn't very good. Hell, Maier is actually 1.5 years older than Frenchy (true story). Now it's probably not going to happen. He'll probably disappoint here like he has elsewhere, but it's absolutely worth giving up on a 29 year old, career 5th OFer like Mitch Maier to find out. His upside is probably his 2007 season, but that's actually pretty solid to have in your 6 hole. Just sayin'... __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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12-08-2010, 03:49 PM	#2894
siberian khatru 21st Century Schizoid Fan Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Gates of Delirium Casino cash: $-1155050	I still like the idea of platooning Frenchy and Lough. You play to Frenchy's strengths while breaking in a rookie slowly, putting him in favorable situations, see how much DDJ he's got in him. Obviously ain't gonna happen with this brain trust, though.
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