NFL Draft Rick Gosselin's 2010 First Round Re-Do - Page 9

Amnorix · 12-09-2010, 03:51 PM

Interesting.

http://www.dallasnews.com/s/dws/nwsl...l.2cb2465.html

Here's got Berry going 12th now. The Chiefs taking Dez Bryant at 5 instead of Berry. Not sure I agree with that, but whatever.

Three Patriots in "new" 1st round.

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-10-2010, 08:13 PM

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So are you agreeing with me about berry? Hmmmm....
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I haven't said a single negative thing about Berry since draft day or before. But that doesn't negate the play of Earl Thomas.

Berry was a better choice for the Chiefs and their defense but Earl Thomas has been nothing but solid for the Seahawks.

**SAUTO** · 12-10-2010, 08:22 PM

So would you trade them?

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I haven't said a single negative thing about Berry since draft day or before. But that doesn't negate the play of Earl Thomas.

Berry was a better choice for the Chiefs and their defense but Earl Thomas has been nothing but solid for the Seahawks.

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**DaneMcCloud** · 12-10-2010, 08:25 PM

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So would you trade them?
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What?

What kind of twisted, misguided question is this and why are you asking me this question?

You know, I like you but I'm tired of your line of questioning. It's completely senseless, Dude.

Furthermore, I bet you can find hundreds of post where I chronicle Berry's improvement over the course of the season. I don't recall seeing even one post by you about Berry.

No offense, just telling it like it is, Dude.

**SAUTO** · 12-10-2010, 08:29 PM

Wow ok. I said I wouldn't trade berry for thomas. You quote it and disagree. Then you agree with milk man that he's better for us. So would you trade them? If not why call out my post? And ftr I don't believe a center is worth the third. But il remember that come draft time

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What?

What kind of twisted, misguided question is this and why are you asking me this question?

You know, I like you but I'm tired of your line of questioning. It's completely senseless, Dude.

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Marcellus · 12-10-2010, 08:51 PM

Blount at #14? UFA to #14 overall? I don't think so. I know he is playing well but lets let the story be told. Chances are he sees any success he goes dumbass.

salame · 12-10-2010, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Blount at #14? UFA to #14 overall? I don't think so. I know he is playing well but lets let the story be told. Chances are he sees any success he goes dumbass.

I might agree with this. However I saw his 2nd career nfl touchdown where he was more concerned with helping up the O-lineman he plowed over on his way to the endzone that stopping to do the "Dougie". Maybe there is hope for him.

Marcellus · 12-10-2010, 09:08 PM

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I might agree with this. However I saw his 2nd career nfl touchdown where he was more concerned with helping up the O-lineman he plowed over on his way to the endzone that stopping to do the "Dougie". Maybe there is hope for him.

You never know but the fact is, people rarely really change and drafting him at #14 would have likely validated his previous attitude. Going undrafted likely grounded him a bit at least for a while. I doubt being a high draft choice would have motivated him as much.

Hell maybe I am completely wrong.

**BossChief** · 12-10-2010, 09:13 PM

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My Falcons draft had its good moments and its bad ones. Overall it was pretty close to where the players went.

(1,19) Sean Weatherspoon, LB, Missouri (BOOM!! Nailed it baby!!!)
(3,83) Jacoby Ford, WR, Clemson (4,108) <-------reach by 25 picks
(4) Syd'Quan Thompson, CB, California (7) <-------reach by 3 rounds, this kid is gonna be a good player for Denver, knowshit will let us know all about him
(5) Anthony Dixon, RB, Mississippi State (6) <-------reach of 1 round
(5c) Tony Moeaki, TE, Iowa (3) <------------value of basically 3 rounds
(6) Thomas Austin, G/C, Clemson (7) <------reach or 1 round
(7) Aaron Pettrey, K, Ohio State (UDFA) <-----we needed a kicker after Elams retirement, the kid is impressive.

Not bad, I drafted three guys for trhe Falcons that ended up as a first rounder in this redraft. Nailed their first rounder and drafted one guy that was redrafted in the first, in the third (Ford) and the other guy redrafted in the first (Moeaki) in the fifth.

Here was my follow up post in the CP draft talking with Mecca...Again, Pat Angerer (Pronounced 'Anger') was the other Hawkeye I wanted us to draft along with Moeaki.

I also said over and over that IF we were dead set on taking a OT in the first, I would take Bulaga over Okung...but that he was no better than a 10-15 pick...seems my "homerism" (as some call it) is pretty ****ing spot on when it comes to Hawkeye players.

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Remember our discussion about Angerer when you said something like "I don't think I ever jumped out of my skin to pimp an undersized, slow linebacker"

Seems that one of the best evaluating teams in the league agreed with me, even though me and the Colts evidently were the only ones.

Same with Moeaki.

Those two are gonna be really good players in the league.

I may not have watched as much college ball as some on this site, but I am pretty spot on with the ones I have seen.

I would be a beast in evaluating players predraft, if I was able to watch a lo more college ball. IMO of course

salame · 12-10-2010, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

You never know but the fact is, people rarely really change and drafting him at #14 would have likely validated his previous attitude. Going undrafted likely grounded him a bit at least for a while. I doubt being a high draft choice would have motivated him as much.

Hell maybe I am completely wrong.

idk man pre face punch he was supposed to be a top 25 pick

**BossChief** · 12-10-2010, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

You never know but the fact is, people rarely really change and drafting him at #14 would have likely validated his previous attitude. Going undrafted likely grounded him a bit at least for a while. I doubt being a high draft choice would have motivated him as much.

Hell maybe I am completely wrong.

Actually, you are spot on IMO.

I made the same comment about Dez Bryant in another thread.

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-10-2010, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Wow ok. I said I wouldn't trade berry for thomas. You quote it and disagree. Then you agree with milk man that he's better for us. So would you trade them? If not why call out my post? And ftr I don't believe a center is worth the third. But il remember that come draft time
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First off, I didn't "call out" your post. You claimed that none of these player discussed have been worth their "re-draft" status.

I countered with information that maybe you weren't aware of to you help you understand why Gosselin chose the way he did.

Pouncey has the makings of Dermotti Dawson, a perennial Pro Bowler. He's been dominant in a defensive heavy division and has been the Steelers best lineman. They're currently 9-3, BTW. Earl Thomas has 64 tackles and 5 INT's for a 6-6 division leading team and has been doing everything asked of him for their scheme.

If those aren't reason enough for you to consider why they'd be highly touted, I don't know what to tell you.

The purpose of a "re-draft" is to asses the current level of play by rookies and based on their level of performance, re-slot them based on that value. If you disagree, please explain why you disagree. Don't just say "This is bullshit" or "This guy's an idiot" or any other predictable, non-informed remark.

And if you want to play "that game", I can tell you that while I wouldn't advocate taking a center at #3 overall, I'd certainly take Pouncey over Tyson Jackson.

At the end of the day, it's about the player's performance, not where he was drafted, as evidenced by this "re-draft".

**BossChief** · 12-10-2010, 09:34 PM

With the way Pouncey has played, I wonder how high his brother will go.

That said, if someone took him at 3rd overall, that would be a gross misuse of draft value.

Reerun_KC · 12-10-2010, 09:36 PM

So in all seriousness, what good does it do to Re-draft?

I mean seriously? Besides all the peter pounding from everyone, does it acutally make your dick bigger?

What a waste of bandwidth and disk space on the server...

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-10-2010, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

With the way Pouncey has played, I wonder how high his brother will go.

That said, if someone took him at 3rd overall, that would be a gross misuse of draft value.

Unless he turned out to be a perennial Pro Bowler, then it would be justified.

**BossChief** · 12-10-2010, 09:52 PM

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Unless he turned out to be a perennial Pro Bowler, then it would be justified.

No way.

You can get a perrenial pro bowl quality center in the second round or very late first (at the earliest)

Nick Mangold 29th
Alex Mack 21st

If you spend a top three pick on a center, no matter how good, you should be ridiculed Tyson Jackson style.

Ive watched the Steelers a few times this year and he is a damn good player, but not THAT good.

I havent watched a lot of Florida games, I wonder if his brother has the skill set to be a center and not just a guard...I would be fine (if not happy even) if he fell to our pick in the first in the next draft and he is the guy to replace Weigman.

That would give us a hella nice, and young, OL.

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Reerun_KC Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $7231160	So in all seriousness, what good does it do to Re-draft? I mean seriously? Besides all the peter pounding from everyone, does it acutally make your dick bigger? What a waste of bandwidth and disk space on the server...
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