Chiefs Weiss to the Gators in 2011 (confirmed) - Page 23

Sure-Oz · 01:33 PM

ESPN: Weis may not return to KC in 2011. Gainesville Sun's Dooley: Weis may land w/ Gators as OC. http://bit.ly/i013yB 2 minutes ago via TweetDeck

from sportsbybrooks twitter...

edit:link works

Highlights:Weiss could leave soon to become the Gators OC possibly as early as sunday or monday, and Mcdaniels could replace him.

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Originally Posted by haydenchiefs101

mortreport Chris Mortensen
Filed to ESPN and as Gainesville Sun's Pat Dooley suggested, Charlie Weis is likely bound for Univ. of Florida as offensive coordinator

JD10367 · 12-31-2010, 02:58 PM

Everyone keeps saying he'd have to work harder as Florida's OC because of recruiting. Does anyone know this for a fact? Really, between the name recognition of Florida plus the name recognition of Weis, I think the idea would be that the team wouldn't have to recruit as hard because good HS players would want to go there. And as the OC, would he even have to be that involved? Would he have to travel? Maybe part of his deal with them would be that he wouldn't have to. Combine that with the Florida weather, the easier competition, not butting heads with Haley, the fact that Weis doesn't have to worry about money...

It's not out of the question.

Kidd Lex · 12-31-2010, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Think about it:

You're a 60 year old man in bad health.

You can either work in an incredibly pressure packed situation against the best of the best where you are playing against people with similar talent every week

Or

You can work in a system where you will have a definitive talent advantage in 80-90% of the games that you play against D-Co's who can't put in sophisticated schemes, or rely on their secondary to play advanced and exotic coverages and this job pays the same money.

College jobs of equivalent pay are far superior to NFL jobs.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-31-2010, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DTLB58

If he is truly in that bad of health that he needs to change jobs because of it do you really think that at 60 this man HAS to work anymore? I mean the dude hasn't been flipping burgers at Sonic. I think he has a few bucks put away.

This isn't a difficult train of thought to follow.

If he still loves to do it and can get equal pay for less work and less stress, why wouldn't he take the college job?

You scratch your competitive itch while not working your ass to death and not taking a cut in pay.

It's also a more secure job.

It's the same reason why Coach K passed on the Lakers job, and guys like Roy Williams will never leave college (and why Paterno, Bowden, and others never did).

-King- · 12-31-2010, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

Fail ... since i didn't suggest a conspiracy at all.

until Weis got here the offense sucked
since Haley got here we have gone through 2 maybe 3 coordinators in 2 years.

Hey ... if the offense continues to improve with Carthon and Haley running it then fine.

But if Haley runs off Weis and the offense turns to shit i'm going to track Haley down and rip his nuts off with a bait hook and make him eat his own mansack.

Yah. Sure.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-31-2010, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Perhaps. Maybe that svelte mother****er would never need to leave his compound. Let reputation and NFL connections do the heavy lifting.

Still seems like an undesirable step down. Now, if the hours were significantly less, I could understand that point.

Spurrier's biggest complaint about UF vs. the Redskins: the former was an 8-5 job and the latter got in the way of his golf game.

Fritz88 · 12-31-2010, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

Weis doesn't need a payday...or an easy job...

most coaches do it for the competition...

so this is flawed logic

Indeed.

JD10367 · 12-31-2010, 03:01 PM

The reports of Haley and Weis butting heads are true. Here is a just-released snapshot from a Haley press conference, of Weis in the back row.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-31-2010, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The God Hypothesis

I'm not saying what he will do. I'm saying why he'd go to college.

Did everyone here get an 8 on the reading sections of their ACT?

chief52 · 12-31-2010, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

May not even be required of him.

If the offensive coordinator is not out recruiting you can kiss of the top recruits. Recruiting is what makes programs in the NCAA. I believe it is the reason Urban Meyer is done. All the coaches are on the road.

-King- · 12-31-2010, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JD10367

Everyone keeps saying he'd have to work harder as Florida's OC because of recruiting. Does anyone know this for a fact? Really, between the name recognition of Florida plus the name recognition of Weis, I think the idea would be that the team wouldn't have to recruit as hard because good HS players would want to go there. And as the OC, would he even have to be that involved? Would he have to travel? Maybe part of his deal with them would be that he wouldn't have to. Combine that with the Florida weather, the easier competition, not butting heads with Haley, the fact that Weis doesn't have to worry about money...

It's not out of the question.

He'd still have to visit players no matter what. Those are unnecessary road trips in the summer that he'd have to take. I don't see him doing that.

**DeezNutz** · 12-31-2010, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

This isn't a difficult train of thought to follow.

If he still loves to do it and can get equal pay for less work and less stress, why wouldn't he take the college job?

You scratch your competitive itch while not working your ass to death and not taking a cut in pay.

It's also a more secure job.

It's the same reason why Coach K passed on the Lakers job, and guys like Roy Williams will never leave college (and why Paterno, Bowden, and others never did).

These comparisons don't entirely hold up because there's so much ego involved (not using this in a negative sense). When K retires, there will be a statue of him in front of the building, with his name somehow associated.

Tough to turn down being a legend.

Extra Point · 12-31-2010, 03:03 PM

And why did Urban Meyer leave? Florida is as much a heart attack generator as the Chiefs.

With a couple or three guys under him, he can do so much more with the Chiefs, then hand off the job a well-understudied coach, at the end of the next two seasons.

Riding off to Florida in a scooter isn't how I envision Weis' departure.

DTLB58 · 12-31-2010, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

There's 100% no chance of this happening.

He said before he took this job that he's an NFL offensive coordinator and that's what he wants to do for the rest of his career.

Errr, I remember both of the new coordinators saying that it was their goal at some point to be Head Coaches in the NFL.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-31-2010, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

These comparisons don't entirely hold up because there's so much ego involved (not using this in a negative sense). When K retires, there will be a statue of him in front of the building, with his name somehow associated.

Tough to turn down being a legend.

I doubt that statue would have been tossed in a vat of muriatic acid had he gone to Staples in 2005.

JD10367 · 12-31-2010, 03:03 PM

He's a natural to live in Florida. He's already got the required mode of transportation for that state.

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JD10367 Cheaterlover* Join Date: May 2009 Location: RI Casino cash: $10010716	Everyone keeps saying he'd have to work harder as Florida's OC because of recruiting. Does anyone know this for a fact? Really, between the name recognition of Florida plus the name recognition of Weis, I think the idea would be that the team wouldn't have to recruit as hard because good HS players would want to go there. And as the OC, would he even have to be that involved? Would he have to travel? Maybe part of his deal with them would be that he wouldn't have to. Combine that with the Florida weather, the easier competition, not butting heads with Haley, the fact that Weis doesn't have to worry about money... It's not out of the question.
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