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Old 12-31-2010, 12:00 PM  
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Weiss to the Gators in 2011 (confirmed)
ESPN: Weis may not return to KC in 2011. Gainesville Sun's Dooley: Weis may land w/ Gators as OC. http://bit.ly/i013yB 2 minutes ago via TweetDeck

from sportsbybrooks twitter...

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Highlights:Weiss could leave soon to become the Gators OC possibly as early as sunday or monday, and Mcdaniels could replace him.

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Filed to ESPN and as Gainesville Sun's Pat Dooley suggested, Charlie Weis is likely bound for Univ. of Florida as offensive coordinator
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Old 12-31-2010, 03:16 PM   #376
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Good point. But so much of the vitriol was based on how Roy handled the situation (no presser in Lawrence, hop a jet and talk in Chapel Hill).

I think fans are far more accepting if the coach/player handles the situation like a man. Likely Coach K would have done this, making much of this moot.

But I do think that Dukies have an unusually high opinion of themselves, so the transition to the NBA, no matter the organization, wouldn't have necessarily been viewed as a step up, as ridiculous as it sounds.
To some, initially, that would have happened. But cooler heads would have prevailed in that situation.

All you have to do in that situation is say "I want to test myself against the best players in the world on a nightly basis" and you have your instant out.
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Old 12-31-2010, 03:17 PM   #377
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Because the Chiefs would want compensation to let him leave. They aren't going to fire him and have him to go to a competing team for nothing.
Well, I know it is different, but if he is under contract he can not just walk out and go to college ball either I would not think. Guess the Chiefs only signed him to a one year contract?
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Old 12-31-2010, 03:17 PM   #378
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Well, I know it is different, but if he is under contract he can not just walk out and go to college ball either I would not think. Guess the Chiefs only signed him to a one year contract?
Why can he not just walk out and go to college ball either?
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I think Haley will always be the coach that wants to be the gameday offensive coordinator, as well...

he was a HELL OF A COORDINATOR in Arizona for their Super Bowl run...so I have no issues with this at all...

Weis has done a great job this year (from what we can tell) and writing off Haley because of 2009 would be a major mistake (that team was a mess and in the midst of a major transition)...

so I have no problems with thanking Weis for his one year contribution, naming a younger guy with some potential (a la Sean Payton back in the day) as coordinator, and letting Haley be in charge of the plays come game day...

I'm really kind of indifferent when it comes to McDaniels...I wouldn't be against it...but I wouldn't be super happy either.
I'm not writing off Haley because of '09. I'm writing off Haley as OC because of the history of coaches who have successfully navigated the duties of HC and OC, coaches with far more prestigious pedigrees than Haley at this point.
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you're saying he sucked as a Pat

that is flat our ridiculous...

it's nonsense

it's DIPSHITTERY
It's hyperbole is what it is. Average-at-best might be more accurate than "sucked," but what I saw from Cassel in NE didn't impress me enough to want him over Stafford or Sanchez. And part of that was the frustration over possibly getting ANOTHER backup QB instead of drafting a universally-respected 1st round prospect. The franchise had been down that route many, many times to no avail. My position back then was "If Cassel turns out to be Trent Green, then I'd still rather have taken a QB prospect. I'd rather have a QB prospect bust than get another Trent Green, because at least the franchise took the shot that it's been afraid of for so long."

Cassel has looked better than Green lately in a lot of ways, so there's that going for him.
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Why can he not just walk out and go to college ball either?
Contract?
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Contract?
An NFL contract will keep him from coaching NCAA football?
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why wouldn't we want another Trent Green?

The idea that we didn't win a playoff game because of something Trent Green did is freaking ridiculous...

Trent Green was a top QB for a 3 year stretch with the Chiefs...and had we had anything close to an average defense we could have easily won a Super Bowl...or at least a playoff game.

The fact that guys like Dane called the Green trade a fail, and the Roaf (a 4th round pick) trade a fail...

just show how UNBELIEVABLY ridiculous the drafturbators are when it comes to the draft...

yes...we COULD HAVE taken Brees (19 picks early) with that pick we gave the Rams...but that is total hindsight and Brees was SO BAD at first the Chargers took Eli Manning (and flipped him for Rivers) while Brees was under contract...

and the Rams took (I believe) Damione Lewis with our pick we traded for Green...

so blah blah blah

you drafturbators need to understand the draft, while valuable...IS A CRAPSHOOT...

The Green and Roaf trades were fantastic trades.
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It's hyperbole is what it is. Average-at-best might be more accurate than "sucked," but what I saw from Cassel in NE didn't impress me enough to want him over Stafford or Sanchez. And part of that was the frustration over possibly getting ANOTHER backup QB instead of drafting a universally-respected 1st round prospect. The franchise had been down that route many, many times to no avail. My position back then was "If Cassel turns out to be Trent Green, then I'd still rather have taken a QB prospect. I'd rather have a QB prospect bust than get another Trent Green, because at least the franchise took the shot that it's been afraid of for so long."

Cassel has looked better than Green lately in a lot of ways, so there's that going for him.
Sanchez was not considered a "universally respected" 1st round prospect Some thought so...many, many others did not. Thank god the Chiefs were smart enough not to go that route.

You would take Cassel over Sanchez...right?
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An NFL contract will keep him from coaching NCAA football?
I would think so. He is UNDER CONTRACT to perform until his contract expires.
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I would think so. He is UNDER CONTRACT to perform until his contract expires.
He's UNDER CONTRACT in the NFL. Not anywhere else.
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we can go back through the last decade of drafts (when I have more time) and I can, once again, point out how much of a crapshoot every single round of the draft really is...

the draft is a valuable tool in the NFL, especially when there is a HARD cap...because 90% of players are replaceable by rookies who make a fraction of what the veterans make...

but hits are few and far between...

and after the 4th round...you can find as many talented rookies in the UDFA pool as you can in the draft...

once the 5th round starts it turns into teams drafting THEIR guys...not following any sort of board...it's like having first dibs on those undrafted guys
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Do not think that is how it works...
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Sanchez was not considered a "universally respected" 1st round prospect Some thought so...many, many others did not. Thank god the Chiefs were smart enough not to go that route.

You would take Cassel over Sanchez...right?
You really think Sanchez wouldn't have gone in the 1st round?

Sanchez vs Cassel now? That's an interesting question. Sanchez still has more upside and is younger, but Cassel is showing things that I never thought I'd see from him. Before the Denver game, it'd be a no-brainier for Sanchez. Now? It depends how far out you think your team is from contending. For the current Chiefs team, who wants to have its running game carry the day and its QB not turn the ball over, the Cassel from Arizona-on is the better option.
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