Chiefs Weiss to the Gators in 2011 (confirmed) - Page 44

Sure-Oz · 01:33 PM

ESPN: Weis may not return to KC in 2011. Gainesville Sun's Dooley: Weis may land w/ Gators as OC. http://bit.ly/i013yB 2 minutes ago via TweetDeck

from sportsbybrooks twitter...

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Highlights:Weiss could leave soon to become the Gators OC possibly as early as sunday or monday, and Mcdaniels could replace him.

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Originally Posted by haydenchiefs101

mortreport Chris Mortensen
Filed to ESPN and as Gainesville Sun's Pat Dooley suggested, Charlie Weis is likely bound for Univ. of Florida as offensive coordinator

Chiefs Pantalones · 01-01-2011, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Yeah, it doesn't make any sense why an established guy like Weis would pair up with an unknown at Florida.

The unfortunate thing is Weis will just use the excuse that he missed the college game and not give actual reasons for why he's leaving/left.

A lot of people claim Haley is responsible for Weis possibly leaving, but what about the other side? Weis has to get that it's Haley's team and he is an offensive guy so of course he's not gonna give the whole show to Weis. Weis knew that coming in. I don't blame Haley for him leaving, Weis has to realize that he's the OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR, not the head coach. Dude must have a huge ego. I hope we get McDaniels to replace him, if he does end up leaving.

**The Bad Guy** · 01-01-2011, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder

A lot of people claim Haley is responsible for Weis possibly leaving, but what about the other side? Weis has to get that it's Haley's team and he is an offensive guy so of course he's not gonna give the whole show to Weis. Weis knew that coming in. I don't blame Haley for him leaving, Weis has to realize that he's the OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR, not the head coach. Dude must have a huge ego. I hope we get McDaniels to replace him, if he does end up leaving.

Weis is a pretty flakey guy to be honest.

I think McDaniels makes sense, but what Milkman is saying is correct. All McDaniels did was put Cassel in the shotgun and have Wes Welker run a 3 yard crossing pattern. He did develop Orton some, but in terms of Cassel, he ascended far more here than with McDaniels.

FringeNC · 01-01-2011, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Because Haley doesn't call the plays on game day. Weis does based on a collaborated game plan created during the week.

I want to keep the continuinty they've had all year.

Maybe, but using an analogy, is it better on the kids of parents who are always fighting to stay together or get a divorce? To me, there is no obvious answer. I'd like to know what Cassel thinks about what's going on...

Sure-Oz · 01-01-2011, 10:48 AM

So who would be the top OC candidates you guys would want? Mcdaniels seems obvious, what about chilly?

King_Chief_Fan · 01-01-2011, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Weis is a pretty flakey guy to be honest.

I think McDaniels makes sense, but what Milkman is saying is correct. All McDaniels did was put Cassel in the shotgun and have Wes Welker run a 3 yard crossing pattern. He did develop Orton some, but in terms of Cassel, he ascended far more here than with McDaniels.

what you said makes no sense....unless you want him to do what he did in NE

**DeezNutz** · 01-01-2011, 10:51 AM

If Haley wants to continue to be hands-on with the offense, I think we'd be best served to try to make an astute hire of a young, ascending coach. Perhaps Nick Sirianni is that guy? I don't know.

But we'll need someone who won't feel the need for the offense to be "his." This is why I don't think that McDaniels will be much of a consideration, unless Haley continues to evolve as a coach and can take half a step back.

stevieray · 01-01-2011, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

When did he fill you in on this?

I talked to the guy who told me about Crennel this morning and he told me what I suspected, Charlie wants the offense to be his show, and not a collaboration with the HC.

about a week ago...he's no schlub, but it could be stemming from his own bias or opinion. I know a guy who rails on Haley after every home game...and we're undefeated so far...

LaChapelle · 01-01-2011, 11:05 AM

Perhaps the Chargers will get Tebowed tomorrow
and the Chiefs can pick up Norv Turner and Jackson for a 1st rounder

tonyetony · 01-01-2011, 11:05 AM

It's a control thing. I think we saw evidence of the conflict when Haley pulled Cassel off the field and put Croyle in for a few plays. Haley was getting a message across to Weis that he had the final say.

mcaj22 · 01-01-2011, 11:08 AM

What does Scott Pioli do in this situation?

does he try and keep the band together? Does he mediate? Does he just say screw it and let these guys part ways without any effort?

I am curious of his role, you would think he'd want to keep all his buddies in the same room.

LaChapelle · 01-01-2011, 11:10 AM

If I'm Clark Hunt I'm concerned with the bucks
my first time head coach has me shelling out to coordinators

Quesadilla Joe · 01-01-2011, 11:10 AM

Losing Weis will be a huge loss to KC. The Chiefs offense sucked before they brought him in.

Sure-Oz · 01-01-2011, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

Losing Weis will be a huge loss to KC. The Chiefs offense sucked before they brought him in.

Aren't you banned after sunday?

**KcMizzou** · 01-01-2011, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

Losing Weis will be a huge loss to KC. The Chiefs offense sucked before they brought him in.

, quitter. The football fans are talking.

FringeNC · 01-01-2011, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

Losing Weis will be a huge loss to KC. The Chiefs offense sucked before they brought him in.

Like when we put up 524 yards against Denver last year?

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