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Old 01-08-2011, 09:33 AM   #1
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Old 01-08-2011, 09:35 AM   #2
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Man to hinge the whole game on JC isnt very good..

Can he help us win the game? Sure... Can he do it by himself... Most likely not...

Thankfully we have other playmakers and guys just as important to win for this team...

Youre putting too much of your emotional investment into one player for success of this team...
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Old 01-08-2011, 09:40 AM   #3
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Youre putting too much of your emotional investment into one player for success of this team...
No, I don't think Jones slipping ypc is doing much for us.

Charles is the playmaker and the only true gamebreaking threat we have (outside of the return game.)

He MUST have a big game.

I'll bet you this: if Charles has 100 yards we may not win but if he has under 100 yards rushing we WILL lose...
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No, I don't think Jones slipping ypc is doing much for us.

Charles is the playmaker and the only true gamebreaking threat we have (outside of the return game.)

He MUST have a big game.

I'll bet you this: if Charles has 100 yards we may not win but if he has under 100 yards rushing we WILL lose...
Charles has NOT been effective early in games. Defenses are stacking the box on us. It doesn't matter if it's Charles or Jones, if we don't pass the ball well, we're ****ed. Even though Jones only gets 2 YPC, he's forcing defenses to stuff the box which is giving Cassel opportunities to get in a rhythm in the passing game. People think too one-dimensionally sometimes. Weis and Haley are smart guys. I think they're well aware that Charles has the higher YPC, but nobody ever stops to think that maybe they're using their early gameplan to set Charles up for big runs later.
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I think they're well aware that Charles has the higher YPC, but nobody ever stops to think that maybe they're using their early gameplan to set Charles up for big runs later.
There is no later.

If we don't run the ball, score early, and move the chains there will be no Charles. We'll be passing to catch up and he'll be stuck with the occasional draw play or bubble screen as a 4th WR.

THIS is exactly what we've been saving Charles for. He can't run the ball 25 times a game for 16 games. True 'dat.

But that little b@st@ard needs to run it 25 times for 4 games, and he needs to make it a ****ing showcase for all he can do.

NOW IS LATER.
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Old 01-08-2011, 10:16 AM   #6
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There is no later.

If we don't run the ball, score early, and move the chains there will be no Charles. We'll be passing to catch up and he'll be stuck with the occasional draw play or bubble screen as a 4th WR.

THIS is exactly what we've been saving Charles for. He can't run the ball 25 times a game for 16 games. True 'dat.

But that little b@st@ard needs to run it 25 times for 4 games, and he needs to make it a ****ing showcase for all he can do.

NOW IS LATER.
And if we don't pass the ball effectively, it doesn't matter if we throw Jones or Charles or Barry Sanders out there, they aren't going to run the ball well. In the second half of the season, Charles has NOT been an overly effective back when defenses are stacking the box. You have to loosen the defense up first and then let him make a mile out of an inch.

The Ravens are going to do everything in their power to make Cassel beat them. When Thomas Jones is the lead back, he makes the job a lot easier because he allows the Chiefs to play a power running game that commits the defense to playing within a box. If you want to rest your laurels on one playmaker, than play Charles early and often. If you want to establish a balance between running and passing, then use Jones to loosen up the D and then destroy them with Charles.

In games where Charles has a lot of early carries, the Chiefs have not been that successful.
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The Ravens are going to do everything in their power to make Cassel beat them. When Thomas Jones is the lead back, he makes the job a lot easier because he allows the Chiefs to play a power running game that commits the defense to playing within a box.
A power running game MUST BE EFFECTIVE.

A young Bettis, Natrone Means, Bam Morris, Okoye, Barry Foster, etc. were effective.

I'd say we're more like the Giants now where we trot out our "physical back" and as of late he does nothing but the old 2 yards and a cloud of dust.

You can get away with that if you have Brady/Manning/Rivers/Rodgers/Brees at QB.

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In games where Charles has a lot of early carries, the Chiefs have not been that successful.
I don't know about early vs. late but the more carries he gets the more Charles explodes.

Charles has rushed the ball 20+ times only 3 games this season.

In those three games he put up 177, 173, and 116 yards.

RUSHING ALONE.

That's an average of over 155 yards (JUST RUSHING) a game.

FEED HIM THE ****ING BALL!!!!
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There is no later.

If we don't run the ball, score early, and move the chains there will be no Charles. We'll be passing to catch up and he'll be stuck with the occasional draw play or bubble screen as a 4th WR.

THIS is exactly what we've been saving Charles for. He can't run the ball 25 times a game for 16 games. True 'dat.

But that little b@st@ard needs to run it 25 times for 4 games, and he needs to make it a ****ing showcase for all he can do.

NOW IS LATER.
It depends on how the Ravens line up on defense.

If you go into the game planning on handing off to Charles no matter the down and distance and defense then it will be harder to sustain drives.

Charles has 1,400+ yards rushing this season. It is better for him to have 15 carries for 125 yards than to have 25 carries for 80 yards.
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It depends on how the Ravens line up on defense.

If you go into the game planning on handing off to Charles no matter the down and distance and defense then it will be harder to sustain drives.

Charles has 1,400+ yards rushing this season. It is better for him to have 15 carries for 125 yards than to have 25 carries for 80 yards.
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It depends on how the Ravens line up on defense.

If you go into the game planning on handing off to Charles no matter the down and distance and defense then it will be harder to sustain drives.

Charles has 1,400+ yards rushing this season. It is better for him to have 15 carries for 125 yards than to have 25 carries for 80 yards.
Chances are greater that he breaks the big one with 25 carries opposed to 15 carries.
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Man to hinge the whole game on JC isnt very good..

Can he help us win the game? Sure... Can he do it by himself... Most likely not...

Thankfully we have other playmakers and guys just as important to win for this team...

Youre putting too much of your emotional investment into one player for success of this team...
He can't win it by himself, but Jones has turned into Thomas 2.0 as is his YPC in recent weeks.
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He can't win it by himself, but Jones has turned into Thomas 2.0 as is his YPC in recent weeks.
Understand completely...

JC needs the bulk of the touches this game.. This is his time to shine...


As long as they monitor him and dont break him just because its the playoffs. Then I am okay with it.. JC is still fragile and turnover prone...
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