NFL Draft 2011 Draft Piorities: Pick Three - Page 3

**Mr. Kotter** · 02:32 PM

Poll forthcoming

I'd go with NT, WR, OLB....with OT and C "next." Backup/QOTF would be a late round target.

Pick three/four in the draft, and get the other two in FA.

Thoughts?

**DeezNutz** · 01-10-2011, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Our center is currently playling LG for us, so that's not a priority.

Disagree. I'm not putting any faith in a 34-year-old lineman. Could he serve as a stopgap for our stopgap QB next season? Sure, I suppose. But we need actually to fix the problem.

El Jefe · 01-10-2011, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Everything goes out the window if Hali's contract isn't extended.

I wouldn't address it in round 1, but in round 2 I'd start looking at another HB. Either Haley and Weis were complete morons all year in not giving Charles the ball more, or the guy just can't handle the NFL. If the latter, KC needs a consistent HB.

In round 2????? No way on earth I would consider that, HB's can be had deep in the draft, I bet we could get Mikel Leshoure in the 4th if were that desperate.

**Mr. Kotter** · 01-10-2011, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Our center is currently playling LG for us, so that's not a priority...

If by that you mean Asomoah...then we have a hole to fill, soon, where Waters now plays.

El Jefe · 01-10-2011, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Our center is currently playling LG for us, so that's not a priority.There aren't any viable QB prospects that are going to fall to us in the mid-20s and while I'd be actively looking to upgrade, it's not realistic.

As such, this seems easy: NT, WR and LOLB

I could see swapping WR and NT, but the NT does so much to help us across the board. Someone mentioned the fact that our run defense was solid, but this was only because we sold out with Johnson and Belcher. With a good NT, those guys can do more in coverage to avoid the ass-kickings over the middle.

The NT is the most important position in this defense and we don't have one. That's my target if one falls. However, as this draft appears to be better for WRs and OLBs, I think I'd end up drafting a WR as we're likly to get a better talent at our draft slot there.

Just as long as our first goes to one of those positions, I'm happy.

You aren't talking about Old Man River Waters are you? I do however agree with you on the NT.

DJ's left nut · 01-10-2011, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Disagree. I'm not putting any faith in a 34-year-old lineman. Could he serve as a stopgap for our stopgap QB next season? Sure, I suppose. But we need actually to fix the problem.

Sure, draft one and keep looking.

At the same time, are you okay using our first on Pouncey if Miller or Jones are on the board?

It's a question of priority - those 3 positions simply have nobody on our roster that can play them with any degree of competency. Waters can play C at a high level for another 2 or 3 seasons. We can keep trying to develop guys, but the question was 'priority'.

I don't see how you can say that getting a developmental C is a bigger priority that getting the NT that our defensive front needs, the WR that our limited QB needs or the LB that will get Mike Vrabel the hell off the field. If you see Studebaker as that guy, more power to you. But if Von Miller's there in the first, I'm not passing on him for Studebaker.

In a perfect world we get our long-term C in the 5th round and smile all the way to the bank, but that's not the question. Those 3 positions absolutely have to be filed. If we can do that, move Waters to C and Asomoah to LG to buy a couple of seasons (and think of how big Waters playing alongside Asomoah would be for his development), that's a no-brainer, IMO.

**Mr. Kotter** · 01-10-2011, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

....I could see swapping WR and NT, but the NT does so much to help us across the board. Someone mentioned the fact that our run defense was solid, but this was only because we sold out with Johnson and Belcher. With a good NT, those guys can do more in coverage to avoid the ass-kickings over the middle.

The NT is the most important position in this defense and we don't have one. That's my target if one falls....

If there is a NT worthy of the pick, yeah....I'd agree. Anyone know who the NT prospects are...most likely to fall into the late first round? Are they worthy?

DJ's left nut · 01-10-2011, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

If there is a NT worthy of the pick, yeah....I'd agree. Anyone know who the NT prospects are...most likely to fall into the late first round? Are they worthy?

I haven't done a lot of homework on it yet, but it appears this is a very good draft for WR prospects and not a great one for NTs.

**Mr. Kotter** · 01-10-2011, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I haven't done a lot of homework on it yet, but it appears this is a very good draft for WR prospects and not a great one for NTs.

Yeah, I need to do some homework there too....only I was hoping it would wait another week or so. Heh.

**Saul Good** · 01-10-2011, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Seriously? IMO, the interior of the o-line was porous all year because Wiegman could get dominated at the point. Even when he wasn't tossed on his ass, he was tossed back, collapsing the pocket.

I think we're in desperate need of a C.

I think we need one, but not enough to select one over a NT or WR. We did lead the league in rushing and were one of the best in the league in terms of fewest sacks allowed. It's a need, but "desperate" is a bit of an overstatement IMO.

NT is a more important position, and it's a harder position to fill, as there simply aren't enough human beings in the world who are that size.

**DeezNutz** · 01-10-2011, 03:00 PM

If I'm drafting a C in round 1, he cannot be "developmental." He must be day 1/game 1 starter. Not Pouncey, though, as I believe he'll be a guard.

I think that Stefen Wisniewski will end up going in the first, and this might be a wise choice.

Powe in round 2, perhaps? And I'd be happy. I'm of the mindset that we must get stronger up the middle on both sides of the ball. This should be priority #1. As I addressed in my previous post, some options in the passing game should continue to improve.

DJ's left nut · 01-10-2011, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

If I'm drafting a C in round 1, he cannot be "developmental." He must be day 1/game 1 starter. Not Pouncey, though, as I believe he'll be a guard.

I think that Stefen Wisniewski will end up going in the first, and this might be a wise choice.

Powe in round 2, perhaps? And I'd be happy. I'm of the mindset that we must get stronger up the middle on both sides of the ball. This should be priority #1. As I addressed in my previous post, some options in the passing game should continue to improve.

So NT/LOLB in round 1, C in round 2 and WR in FA?

I wouldn't hate that, but I'd prefer just go with the best O-lineman available in R2. In my eyes, RT is an even more glaring weakness than C.

I just see a high draft being spent on a C being more of a luxury item than anything. Kinda like spending the 34th overall on a scat-back kick returner (okay, low blow...sorry).

**Mr. Kotter** · 01-10-2011, 03:04 PM

I'm surprised OLB isn't getting more votes...Vrabel has been a stand-up guy but is, hopefully, done. And I don't want to depend on Studebaker being the answer there. Assuming we can keep Hali, we still need to add one or two OLBs. Next to NT, it's the most important position in that front seven.

CupidStunt · 01-10-2011, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

QB just ain't gonna happen...unless you mean late round backup/QBOTF.

As bad as Cassel looked in a couple of games, another WR and better protection would solve much of it. Pioli ain't bailing on him, yet. Another year like this....maybe. But not yet.

You asked for my opinion on the top 3 priorities. Right?

I know Pioli won't sack up and try to find the next Brady, not the next Brad Johnson, but that's what I'd do, and what I'd like them to do.

**DeezNutz** · 01-10-2011, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

So NT/LOLB in round 1, C in round 2 and WR in FA?

I wouldn't hate that, but I'd prefer just go with the best O-lineman available in R2. In my eyes, RT is an even more glaring weakness than C.

I just see a high draft being spent on a C being more of a luxury item than anything. Kinda like spending the 34th overall on a scat-back kick returner (okay, low blow...sorry).

Yeah, I'd be cool with that, too. The one thing is that most Chiefs fans are in relative agreement about the biggest needs facing this team. We're arguing more nuanced points about when and where to address them.

Certainly, Pioli is aware of all of this and has the situation in hand, right? But...we've had these exact same holes since '09, so a bit of skepticism is needed.

(and we still need a QB, but I digress.)

**Saul Good** · 01-10-2011, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

So NT/LOLB in round 1, C in round 2 and WR in FA?

I wouldn't hate that, but I'd prefer just go with the best O-lineman available in R2. In my eyes, RT is an even more glaring weakness than C.

I just see a high draft being spent on a C being more of a luxury item than anything. Kinda like spending the 34th overall on a scat-back kick returner (okay, low blow...sorry).

I think there will be a WR available in the third round who would normally be a mid-second round player. There are just that many good ones in this draft.

View Poll Results: 2011 Draft Priorities: Pick Three
QB	40	18.96%
HB	1	0.47%
FB	1	0.47%
WR	174	82.46%
TE	0	0%
C	65	30.81%
OG	10	4.74%
OT	57	27.01%
ILB	31	14.69%
OLB	111	52.61%
NT	151	71.56%
DE	13	6.16%
S	0	0%
CB	1	0.47%
KR/PR	1	0.47%
K/P	2	0.95%
Gaz	2	0.95%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 211. You may not vote on this poll

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