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Old 01-10-2011, 10:47 AM  
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Fescoe: Haley took playcalling away from Weis in 2nd Half
Just got a 610 text that says Fescoe is reporting that Haley took playcalling away from Weis in the 2nd half yesterday. That could explain why the playcalling was so horrific in the 2nd half, and if true I think Haley should be in some hot water. That was some of the worst playcalling I have ever seen in my entire life.
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Old 01-10-2011, 04:37 PM   #241
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That playcall sucked the life out of the stadium.
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Old 01-10-2011, 04:37 PM   #242
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That play (or one very similar) had worked earlier for about 12 yards, I think. I haven't seen a replay, but it appeared to me that it was very poorly blocked. We had one guy (RT? TE?) who found himself rolling around on the ground in the backfield about the time our RB got the handoff.

The Ravens D is really good and they played that thing well. We got our ass handed to us on that play and it wasn't quite the same ass we had before.

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I don't think that particular play evidenced a coaching flaw as much as poor clutch execution and some good, damn defense.

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Old 01-10-2011, 04:37 PM   #243
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It is a little early to assume that Romeo is staying.

Weis frequents a local pizza joint by my house up north that I frequent as well (great tv's and cheap beer) and according to him Romeo hates Coach Haley too and will look to ride into one of the open head coaching jobs if at all possible.

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Old 01-10-2011, 04:47 PM   #244
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Charles not getting the ball is just part of the issue.

Haley claiming that Charles not getting the ball to injury is just as big a part, IMO.

And I'm sorry, but saying JC not getting the ball wasn't an issue didn't watch the first half when he was gouging the defense for 9 a carry.

Using your best player in pass protection isn't a good use of resources.
The first drive in the second half wasn't killed because Charles didn't get the ball. It was killed because we had two tries to convert a very makeable third and 2 and 4th and 1 and failed (and by the way, the refs definitely ****ed up on the spot--Jones' run was most definitely a first down).

And if you're going to argue about the first 3 pass plays in the 3-down sequence, maybe we should place some of the blame on Charles for dropping a first down pass that would have at least given us 5 yards, maybe even a first down.

The second drive... Charles didn't get the ball because on the very first play, Cassel got tagged for intentional grounding. 2nd and 20, then 3rd and 25. Are we really going to be upset because we didn't run on 2nd and 20 given our situation? That drive is on Cassel, not on the inability to use Charles.

The third drive... Jones ran on first down, Cassel throws a pick on 2nd down. Maybe Charles could have run on one of those 2 downs, but c'mon... these are two plays. Now it's 23-7. No reason to give Charles the ball after this point.

To say we lost because we abandoned Charles in the 3rd quarter is completely splitting hairs. It wasn't even close to being a reason why we fell apart.
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Old 01-10-2011, 04:51 PM   #245
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I knew you wouldn't be able to stay away from posting like you said yesterday.
I posted once last night, and not much today.

I probably won't be around much once school starts next week.
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Old 01-10-2011, 04:53 PM   #246
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I posted once last night, and not much today.

I probably won't be around much once school starts next week.
so you left when we were good and now you are going to leave like a little baby now that we are out of it. frontrunner.




















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Old 01-10-2011, 04:54 PM   #247
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Where the **** were you yesterday? I saved a sample of playoff bourbon until 11:00.
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Old 01-10-2011, 04:55 PM   #248
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i felt the exact same way......
Ditto.
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Old 01-10-2011, 04:56 PM   #249
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The first drive in the second half wasn't killed because Charles didn't get the ball. It was killed because we had two tries to convert a very makeable third and 2 and 4th and 1 and failed (and by the way, the refs definitely ****ed up on the spot--Jones' run was most definitely a first down).

And if you're going to argue about the first 3 pass plays in the 3-down sequence, maybe we should place some of the blame on Charles for dropping a first down pass that would have at least given us 5 yards, maybe even a first down.

The second drive... Charles didn't get the ball because on the very first play, Cassel got tagged for intentional grounding. 2nd and 20, then 3rd and 25. Are we really going to be upset because we didn't run on 2nd and 20 given our situation? That drive is on Cassel, not on the inability to use Charles.

The third drive... Jones ran on first down, Cassel throws a pick on 2nd down. Maybe Charles could have run on one of those 2 downs, but c'mon... these are two plays. Now it's 23-7. No reason to give Charles the ball after this point.

To say we lost because we abandoned Charles in the 3rd quarter is completely splitting hairs. It wasn't even close to being a reason why we fell apart.
Again, where have I said we lost because we abandoned Charles?

I haven't.

I am, however, upset that we didn't use him effectively in the 2nd half in a tight game, and I'm disappointed that Haley thinks we're all stupid enough to think he was injured when he was on the field picking up blitzers the majority of his 2nd half snaps.
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Old 01-10-2011, 05:02 PM   #250
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If we had not started turning the ball over we wouldn't be having this conversation. Yes the 4th down call didn't work but do you really think running it up the gut against the Ravens on 4th down would be genious. Not !
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Old 01-10-2011, 05:04 PM   #251
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Again, where have I said we lost because we abandoned Charles?

I haven't.

I am, however, upset that we didn't use him effectively in the 2nd half in a tight game, and I'm disappointed that Haley thinks we're all stupid enough to think he was injured when he was on the field picking up blitzers the majority of his 2nd half snaps.
I agree on the last part.

Don't agree on the first part. The first drive was effective and killed by a poor ref spot and then a poor playcall. The second and third drive were pretty much killed because Cassel made poor decisions that took the rock away from Charles before the drive ever really had a chance to get legs. You can argue about 1 or 2 plays where he was misused on those 3 drives. But that's about it. It was hardly an issue.

There were definitely other glaring issues in those drives.
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Old 01-10-2011, 05:06 PM   #252
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Where the **** were you yesterday? I saved a sample of playoff bourbon until 11:00.
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So we were late getting to the stadium and took so long to find a spot that i actually had to get out and walk to lot c from just about where you guys were, to meet lundberg and let the wife park and come meet me just so we could get in.....

we did drive by coming in but had to park a long ways away, the people a few spots down were blasting "beat it" lol.

i would have loved to meet some more CPers.

met dole, stevie, and iowanian at my seats and waved at flop, but i'm the guy who never leaves my seat during the game and yesterday was no exception.

thanks for the offer of bourban though, next time i'll make sure to take you up on it. maybe the bash next year.

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Old 01-10-2011, 05:13 PM   #253
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Jack harry just said he spoke to the owner and Weiss was at the pizza place but refuses to talk football when he comes in. Also said Haley was never mentioned and there were only like 8 people there. The owner said the report isn't accurate at all.
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Great, the news just ran with Fescoe's story, so now at the water cooler we all will have to deal with stupid ass wannabe fans:

"Say fellas, didja hear? Haley told Weis 'you're fired' at halftime, then Weis was all 'whaaaat!?' and then Haley was all, 'yep!' then the game got out of hand and if you ask me, Haley's in hot water, is what I heard."
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Where the **** were you yesterday? I saved a sample of playoff bourbon until 11:00.
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