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Old 02-09-2011, 12:37 PM  
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Justin Houston, Aldon Smith, Ryan Kerrigan

Let's chat about these passrushers, in which there is some remote possibility that one of these three will make it to our pick.

Which ones do you like, which ones don't you like. And why.

I haven't seen too much Mizzou on tape just yet, so I'll let someone else comment on Smith.

Houston definitely has that wow factor, but at this point he's kind of a one-trick pony. He's a speed demon around the edge and he stacks up all his stats on bad teams. I haven't seen any sacks where he swims in, spins, or bullrushes. He just bolts around the corner -- which is intriguing as an OLB (I'd say, of the three, he's the best fit there), but that athleticism is something you can't teach. Moves, you can teach.

Kerrigan I'm not sold on yet, but again, I never seem to like passrushers in the draft. He has a little of that Tyson Jackson feel to him -- like he can be good, but he'll never be a game changer. He doesn't have that explosion in him that the other two seem to have.
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Old 02-09-2011, 02:34 PM   #16
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No thanks to a guy who can play both the run and the pass? Because we were so good defending TE's.
From everything that I've seen (which mind you isn't a WHOLE lot of tape).....he just doesn't impress me.
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Old 02-09-2011, 02:35 PM   #17
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Old 02-09-2011, 02:36 PM   #18
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Old 02-09-2011, 02:40 PM   #19
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Can Aldon Smith stand up and play as a 3-4 OLB?
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Old 02-09-2011, 02:55 PM   #20
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Can Aldon Smith stand up and play as a 3-4 OLB?
Absolutely. This would likely be his best fit in the NFL.

Honestly, he's a good enough athlete that he could likely be a high-quality TE.
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Old 02-09-2011, 03:27 PM   #21
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Houston is an enigma, I wish i'd paid more attention to him this year....he can look like hell fire coming around the corner, but i don't know how well rounded he is or what his upside is..

but this 'he piled up stats against bad teams' rap is unfair....he played in the SEC, a bad SEC team is a hell of a lot more talented than a bad team in another league..say KU for example


and he had two of his best games against South Carolina and Auburn...
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Old 02-09-2011, 03:35 PM   #22
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Hopefully Smith blowing up leads Akeem Ayers right to our pick.
Hopefully not, Ayers is so overrated, I have watched him numerous times. Give me Smith or Houston.
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Old 02-09-2011, 04:17 PM   #23
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Ayers is a prototypical 3-4 ILB, not an OLB.

We don't need another placeholder on the field at that position, we need a ferocious passrusher.
ILB what the hell are you smoking. Ayers is a 3-4 OLB. Ayers fits what you are looking for as a 3-4 Sam Backer. Lot of you guys are looking for Hali types, which we have need the Vrabel role filled.
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Old 02-09-2011, 05:24 PM   #24
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ILB what the hell are you smoking. Ayers is a 3-4 OLB. Ayers fits what you are looking for as a 3-4 Sam Backer. Lot of you guys are looking for Hali types, which we have need the Vrabel role filled.
This is true...we have our rushbacker. We need a complete player to go opposite Hali. Yes, he should have pass rush skills, but he also must be able to cover backs and TE's in the flat and play the run also.

Hali is not someone you want in coverage.
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Smith is a much better prospect and an equal athlete to Jason Pierre Paul. If he were to even start to slip, they should make a concerted move to go after him.

Smith is a very versatile pass rusher. A lot of guys are just speed around the edge, but he has a variety of moves, and does a really good job getting across the face of a tackle. Many times, Steckel would move him inside to DT on passing downs, where he was equally dominant and disruptive.
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I really don't see Aldon Smith getting past Detroit. Put him and Suh on the same line, and damn you got a passrush. He fits their defense to a T.
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I really don't see Aldon Smith getting past Detroit. Put him and Suh on the same line, and damn you got a passrush. He fits their defense to a T.
It's not just him and Suh. Avril is a very good pass rusher as well.
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It's not just him and Suh. Avril is a very good pass rusher as well.
Avril has the most sacks from that '08 Draft Class.
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Detroit was still ****ing stupid to pass on Oher. If Stafford's healthy, Detroit is a 10 win team this upcoming season.
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Detroit was still ****ing stupid to pass on Oher. If Stafford's healthy, Detroit is a 10 win team this upcoming season.
There's no doubt about that.
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