Justin Houston, Aldon Smith, Ryan Kerrigan

[JimBaker488]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

That is completely incorrect.

Smith was the BXII Freshman of the Year his first year and 1st team all conference his second year on a bum wheel. Smith also has the frame to add 20-30 pounds. He's also a really good run defender, something that could never be said for Maybin.


Aaron Maybin had 12 tackles his freshman year. 12. How does that qualify as a really good year? He played at about 225-230 in college and had to jack some serious gas just to get around 250 for the combine. He doesn't have the same kind of frame to add on weight like Smith does, who is already north of that weight.

Go back and watch the Iowa bowl game. That was the healthiest Smith was since he hurt his leg in the SDSU game. He's the only DL that gets consistent pressure, and if any of his LBs had been able to maintain gap discipline, the Iowa running game would have been far less successful. He was in the backfield on multiple occasions, particularly in the second half, when rushing from a 3 technique position. That's something Maybin could never do.

If you want to compare Smith to someone, then you could compare him to Jason Pierre Paul. They are the same kind of athlete, Smith is just a much better football player.

You know more about Smith than I do, or you maybe I should say you have stronger convictions about him than I do, either way. I just have an impression based upon some basic info, hope you're right about his talent ? Do you see his potential best realized at DE or at LB in the 3-4 ?
I'm looking forward to next weeks Combine to get a good look-see at the physical specimen and his athletic ability.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by JimBaker488

You know more about Smith than I do, or you maybe I should say you have stronger convictions about him than I do, either way. I just have an impression based upon some basic info, hope you're right about his talent ? Do you see his potential best realized at DE or at LB in the 3-4 ?
I'm looking forward to next weeks Combine to get a good look-see at the physical specimen and his athletic ability.

He's probably best suited to be a 4-3 DE in a Tampa 2 system, but he can play in any scheme.

If Smith had stayed for his Jr. year, he'd be a lock for a top 5 pick in 2012. He wasn't nearly as heralded as DaQuan Bowers, but he was a much more consistent producer in a far harder league.

[JimBaker488]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

He's probably best suited to be a 4-3 DE in a Tampa 2 system, but he can play in any scheme.

If Smith had stayed for his Jr. year, he'd be a lock for a top 5 pick in 2012. He wasn't nearly as heralded as DaQuan Bowers, but he was a much more consistent producer in a far harder league.

I'm a native Missourian from the KC area, but I've been down here in Houston for a long time now so I'm also a fan of the Texans along with the Chiefs. Anyway the Texans are going to be joining the Chiefs and about half of the league as they transition this year to the 3-4, so I'm most interested in Smiths ability to succeed, no make that excel as a 3-4 outside backer, and be a fit
with Houston or KC ?
This is off subject, but since I'm talking 3-4 vs 4-3 how's Glenn Dorsey doing ? Obviously he's a natural 4-3 3-tech DT, so I wondered how he's contributing in the Chiefs 3-4 ? Dorsey was the best defensive player in the
best conference (SEC) in not one but his last 2 years in college, but I know he's fallen a 'bit short of expectations in KC ?

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by JimBaker488

I'm a native Missourian from the KC area, but I've been down here in Houston for a long time now so I'm also a fan of the Texans along with the Chiefs. Anyway the Texans are going to be joining the Chiefs and about half of the league as they transition this year to the 3-4, so I'm most interested in Smiths ability to succeed, no make that excel as a 3-4 outside backer, and be a fit
with Houston or KC ?
This is off subject, but since I'm talking 3-4 vs 4-3 how's Glenn Dorsey doing ? Obviously he's a natural 4-3 3-tech DT, so I wondered how he's contributing in the Chiefs 3-4 ? Dorsey was the best defensive player in the
best conference (SEC) in not one but his last 2 years in college, but I know he's fallen a 'bit short of expectations in KC ?

Dorsey improved tremendously this past year.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by JimBaker488

You know more about Smith than I do, or you maybe I should say you have stronger convictions about him than I do, either way. I just have an impression based upon some basic info, hope you're right about his talent ? Do you see his potential best realized at DE or at LB in the 3-4 ?
I'm looking forward to next weeks Combine to get a good look-see at the physical specimen and his athletic ability.

Detroit would be the perfect spot for Smith IMO.

[bowener]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Detroit would be the perfect spot for Smith IMO.

Oh, jesus, that would be disgusting. Suh taking up 2 blockers on every snap would ensure that Smith is singled on almost all plays... they would terrorize people.