QB Class Starting to Look Like S&@*

[BigCatDaddy]

Anyone else disappointed with the way this QB class is starting to pan out after looking very promising?

Newton has gone Hollywood
Gabbert is scared to throw at the combine
Locker went to hell as a Senior
Mallett being the 2nd coming of Ryan Leaf

Ponder is starting to look like the prize QB in this draft to me at this point.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by aturnis

Meat_Dragon. Still want to know what you didn't like about Stanzi...

just watched the combine this weekend

he couldn't freaking complete a 7 yard out...

maybe he was nervous, I don't know...but he was so eratic it was insane

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

just watched the combine this weekend

he couldn't freaking complete a 7 yard out...

maybe he was nervous, I don't know...but he was so eratic it was insane

Oh you mean those very same throws that Mayock and Faulk were SLOBBING his knob over? As he walked back to the group they said:

"he might not be feeling real good about that, but up here we're really impressed(or something to that effect). He's throwing to a spot, where the receiver should be, just like he's supposed to, not one of those throws get intercepted at the next level"

Not verbatim, but pretty goddamned closed to what the two of them said.

Also slobbed his knob on his post-corner routes. Think he might have completed one if he was lucky. Again though, the ball was exactly where it was supposed to be, where only the receiver could get it. While other QB's were concerned about completing the pass and wound throwing bad balls. About that they said something to the affect of "wow. He is really throwing the ball where it is supposed to be.(get out the pen and draw on screen to show that the cone on the sideline is the real target)

They went on to reiterate many a time about how it does not matter one bit whether or not you complete passes at the combine. The scouts, coaches and gms know you have zero timing with these receivers. Mentioned plenty of times how impressed they were with Stanzi and his accuracy and ability to throw to a spot, or to the window he is supposed to hit. Kind of like how Warner made his living with St. Louis, minus the deep ball.

The only throwing drill Stanzi had trouble with was the seam route, just like a stud like Gabbert probably will have. Timing/touch/arm strength throw he just hasn't been able to kill yet. He's a 50/50 guy in that area.

Silly bitch. Were you watching at a bar with no sound? You really could learn a lot if you listened. Cam Newton struggled, b/c he complete passes to receivers, he doesn't make reads and throw to spots/windows. He was complete ass except his deep ball.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by aturnis

Oh you mean those very same throws that Mayock and Faulk were SLOBBING his knob over? As he walked back to the group they said:

"he might not be feeling real good about that, but up here we're really impressed(or something to that effect). He's throwing to a spot, where the receiver should be, just like he's supposed to, not one of those throws get intercepted at the next level"

Not verbatim, but pretty goddamned closed to what the two of them said.

Also slobbed his knob on his post-corner routes. Think he might have completed one if he was lucky. Again though, the ball was exactly where it was supposed to be, where only the receiver could get it. While other QB's were concerned about completing the pass and wound throwing bad balls. About that they said something to the affect of "wow. He is really throwing the ball where it is supposed to be.(get out the pen and draw on screen to show that the cone on the sideline is the real target)

They went on to reiterate many a time about how it does not matter one bit whether or not you complete passes at the combine. The scouts, coaches and gms know you have zero timing with these receivers. Mentioned plenty of times how impressed they were with Stanzi and his accuracy and ability to throw to a spot, or to the window he is supposed to hit. Kind of like how Warner made his living with St. Louis, minus the deep ball.

The only throwing drill Stanzi had trouble with was the seam route, just like a stud like Gabbert probably will have. Timing/touch/arm strength throw he just hasn't been able to kill yet. He's a 50/50 guy in that area.

Silly bitch. Were you watching at a bar with no sound? You really could learn a lot if you listened. Cam Newton struggled, b/c he complete passes to receivers, he doesn't make reads and throw to spots/windows. He was complete ass except his deep ball.

Oh and after they were done oooing and awwwing at his perfectly thrown incompletions, they also said something to the effect of, "perfectly thrown balls, these receivers aren't getting to them, but if the receiver doesn't get to that spot in the NFL, they will find someone who will, that's a well placed ball."

[Hootie]

I guess you see what you want to see...

I saw a guy making terrible throws...I watched the QB/RB/WO portion with about 80% attentiveness...so it's not like I'm some expert.

This is a quote I saw from Rotoworld though...
Iowa QB Ricky Stanzi reportedly "struggled big-time" with his accuracy in throwing drills at the Combine.
This report comes from Mark Gaughan of the Buffalo News, and it's not the first time we've heard it. According to Gaughan, Stanzi "missed receivers high, low, and wide." A possible third-round pick, Stanzi was unable to build on a strong Senior Bowl. There have been mixed opinions about him all winter.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

They were not slobbering all over him. Not even close. They said those were balls thrown to a spot. That said, those post corner routes and deep balls needed to be de-iced they were lofted up so high.

[Hootie]

the reason why I like Ponder is because of the swagger...

he reminds me of Aaron Rodgers...

not physically...I don't know enough about him yet...but the clips I saw and the way they said he OWNED the media part is something all great QB's do...and then when I saw him making throws...he was accurate as hell...and he just LOOKS the part.

and he graduated in 2.5 years with an impressive degree and seems to have a real good head on his shoulders

it's a pipe dream, and he probably will never amount to anything...

but right now he seems like a Pioli guy and that would be ok with me...even if #21 is a "reach"

[aturnis]

Yes, reported by the guys who bring you the local fish wrap, and know nothing about evaluating a QB. Not saying I do, but I fully trust Kiper and Mayocks opinions that he grades out as a solid 2nd round pick.

"missed receivers high, low, and wide."

Missed them high on the post-corner routes that were perfectly thrown.

Missed them low on the seam, when he really wasn't getting the ball where it needed to be, then again, he's used to 3 star recruit receivers, so he may not be used to leading that much. Who knows, hope he gets that deep ball going. We'll see at his pro day.

Missed them wide on the out routes to the sideline, where he threw the ball to the perfect spot where only the receiver could get it.

Also, his drops were perfect as the commentators stated "now that's what we want to see". He was consistent and accurate. The biggest reason I'm big on him, besides being and Iowa fan, is that if he could run the Chiefs current offense perfectly. Especially since he's been so good at leading receivers giving them a chance to run. Bowe would benefit, and Moeaki already knows him well. Until he were ready to play, he would be a great, trustworthy backup to Cassel.

[Titty Meat]

Hootie might be right on this Ponder is a good QB infact look at how FSU performed when he wasn't playing. As far as Gabbert he has Elvis Grbac written all over him.

[Hootie]

Ponder reminds me of Tom Brady and I didn't want to say that because it is going to open up the flood gates but that's what I kind of saw/was thinking this weekend.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

you just regurgitate what you "hear" from your favorite draftniks and then try and pass it off as your own...JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE

but then you preach it like you know more than everyone else and it makes you look like a ... reerun

are you surprised by this? We're talking about a guy whose background is academia.

[Hootie]

I just don't like his attitude during draft time...

he has a terrible track record...yet every year you can't say anything or have any opinion that differs from his or you're an idiot

makes no sense

I think Gabbert will suck because he did nothing great in college and he has a horrible haircut. God forbid I have an opinion. I think being a douche CAN be a red flag that you are going to suck in the NFL. I think (and I believe Hamas mentioned this) having a dip (a douche move) and being spotted with it on camera during the biggest time of your life is another red flag that leads me to believe he's going to be a huge bust.

I only go by my gut...and I admit it...I have a gut feeling Gabbert is going to suck.

I had a gut feeling a week ago Newton was going to go #1 and that gut feeling is going to be wrong so what the **** do I know...at least I can admit when I'm doing guess work

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

They were not slobbering all over him. Not even close. They said those were balls thrown to a spot. That said, those post corner routes and deep balls needed to be de-iced they were lofted up so high.

Bullshit, the post-corners were perfectly thrown. Led the receivers to the outside shoulder and just like the commentators said, if a receiver doesn't get that ball, they will find someone who will.

QB's air again tomorrow, I'll DVR it and try to transcribe the Stanzi shit by Friday.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by aturnis

Bullshit, the post-corners were perfectly thrown. Led the receivers to the outside shoulder and just like the commentators said, if a receiver doesn't get that ball, they will find someone who will.

QB's air again tomorrow, I'll DVR it and try to transcribe the Stanzi shit by Friday.

location: Iowa

we get it, brah

sorry I bashed your mancrush

he didn't pass my eye test

I'm no expert, so what do I know...don't be offended

['Hamas' Jenkins]

The balls were thrown to the right spot, but that doesn't mean they were perfectly thrown.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

You might have a point if Gabbert was actually a douche. He was universally loved by his teammates, and everyone raves about how he is both down to earth, treats everybody well, and has a great work ethic.

You are, literally, judging a guy based on his haircut.

Gabbert did "nothing great" in comparison to a traditional power school. That's also because Missouri isn't on that level of school. He had them on the cusp of a BCS bid, and he beat the BCS #1, something no one at the school had ever done.