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Old 04-05-2011, 09:37 PM  
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If you could virtually eliminate drunk driving, would you do it?
Would you support mandatory ignition interlock systems on all cars?
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Old 04-05-2011, 09:50 PM   #16
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Old 04-05-2011, 09:53 PM   #17
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No. Waht if someone falls in a fire camping in a remote place and everyone there had had something to drink.... the car won't let them drive the injured party to rescue? No there is to many unforseen incidents that could jepordize the saftey of individuals. No! Life is short and life is fleeting....hell no!


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Old 04-05-2011, 09:56 PM   #18
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putting people with DUI's in jail makes no sense, fine them a bunch then release them so they can work and pay more taxes.
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Old 04-05-2011, 09:57 PM   #19
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Old 04-05-2011, 10:05 PM   #20
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Old 04-05-2011, 10:11 PM   #21
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can't see those things working, people will just carry a bike pump or something to blow into the locking thingy.
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Old 04-05-2011, 10:11 PM   #22
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They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety

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Please explain the essential liberty that is being taken away. Are you being denied the right to drive? Are you being denied the right to drink? Somehow, I don't think this is what Ben Franklin had in mind when he uttered those words.
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Old 04-05-2011, 10:13 PM   #23
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They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety

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People are always willing to justify the sacrificing of freedoms instead of accepting that freedoms can come with a price. We were having the same sort of back and forth about helmet and seat belt laws in the Vrabel thread.
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Old 04-05-2011, 10:14 PM   #24
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Bingo.

They would have to set it up so every time you get out of the drivers seat you have to reblow.
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Old 04-05-2011, 10:17 PM   #25
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Ben didnt have to worry about drunk drivers.
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Old 04-05-2011, 10:19 PM   #26
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can't see those things working, people will just carry a bike pump or something to blow into the locking thingy.
You have to hum while blowing and continue to blow as you continue to drive.


















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People are always willing to justify the sacrificing of freedoms instead of accepting that freedoms can come with a price. We were having the same sort of back and forth about helmet and seat belt laws in the Vrabel thread.
I don't think they are the same thing. Helmet laws and seat belt laws protect you from your own actions; a mandatory ignition interlock law would protect others from you while you are 1) breaking a law that pretty much everyone universally agrees needs to be in place, and 2) engaging in an activity that is a leading cause of avoidable accidents, injuries and death.

Not wearing a seatbelt isn't going to cause you to swerve over the center line and hit an oncoming car head on.

Not wearing a helmet isn't going to cause you to slam into the back of a parked car.
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Old 04-05-2011, 10:20 PM   #28
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Please explain the essential liberty that is being taken away. Are you being denied the right to drive? Are you being denied the right to drink? Somehow, I don't think this is what Ben Franklin had in mind when he uttered those words.
Its time we all wake up and understand the government cannot, now nor it ever could, regulate or mandate a safer society. Or a healthy society. Or a moral society. This false thinking needs to stop. NOW.

What I mean, if you read my three posts here is that people who are drunk and have to drive will find a way. A friend. A pump. A CO2 cartridge device. They will find a way.

In the mean time, the rest of us will pay higher taxes to regulate this failure. We will pay huge costs in legal cases against the govt. We will be forced to be treated like the bad guys and blow into the straw to start the car, when the drunks would never do that. They would know better.

We would pay and suffer, and the bad guys would not be affected.

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I don't think they are the same thing. Helmet laws and seat belt laws protect you from your own actions; a mandatory ignition interlock law would protect others from you while you are 1) breaking a law that pretty much everyone universally agrees needs to be in place, and 2) engaging in an activity that is a leading cause of avoidable accidents, injuries and death.

Not wearing a seatbelt isn't going to cause you to swerve over the center line and hit an oncoming car head on.

Not wearing a helmet isn't going to cause you to slam into the back of a parked car.
You've got to be ****ing kidding me with this argument.
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Its time we all wake up and understand the government cannot, now nor it ever could, regulate or mandate a safer society. Or a healthy society. Or a moral society. This false thinking needs to stop. NOW.

What I mean, if you read my three posts here is that people who are drunk and have to drive will find a way. A friend. A pump. A CO2 cartridge device. They will find a way.

In the mean time, the rest of us will pay higher taxes to regulate this failure. We will pay huge costs in legal cases against the govt. We will be forced to be treated like the bad guys and blow into the straw to start the car, when the drunks would never do that. They would know better.

We would pay and suffer, and the bad guys would not be affected.

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Ronald Reagan.
No shit. Why do we waste millions, nay billions a year on police protection?? THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING!!! STOP!!!!!
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