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**SAUTO** · 04-18-2011, 06:01 PM

Awesome guy did say that.

I also saw it quite a few times myself
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ChiefsCountry · 04-18-2011, 07:25 PM

Akeem Ayers is the obivous pick.

Coogs · 04-18-2011, 07:30 PM

Tampa took Clayborn. Here are the updated results, and we are on the clock until 1:00PM Eastern tomorrow.

http://www.gbnreport.com/fanmockdraftstats.html

Saccopoo · 04-19-2011, 12:18 AM

Chiefs biggest needs, in order, as it relates to the GBN draft:

1. Nose Tackle
- Phil Taylor is a big reach in the first round, at that was before the foot situation came to light.

2. Wide Receiver
- With AJ Green and Jones off the board, Jon Baldwin is the next best prospect. Big and fast. He's a legit option at #21 for the Chiefs.

3. Center
- I'm not sold on Mike Pouncey as a NFL center.

4. Offensive Tackle
- Costanzo went to the Giants. Of the remaining top tackles left, Derek Sherrod has the size and athleticism to play either tackle spot in the Chiefs zone scheme. This flexibility gives him the nod over the others.

5. Sam Outside Linebacker
- Akeem Ayers would be a viable pick in the second or third round. However, his lack of strength and speed is going to hinder his development at the next level. His best position in the NFL will probably be inside to cover up his lack of burst and pursuit speed.

6. Quarterback
- I think Ponder is legit and would not be there in the second. He bulked up to 230 for his pro day and received raves about his accuracy and arm strength. He's more accurate than Locker and is more mentally ready to be a NFL QB than Mallet. I think that the guy would be an absolute stud in Haley's offense.

7. Running Back
- Thomas Jones is, by NFL running back standards, old and Jamall is too small to be a true full time running back. Mark Ingram is still on the board. He's a big back with exceptional vision and would allow the Chiefs to maintain a high level of productivity at the position while running a committee approach.

So, the possible picks for the Chiefs would be:

Jon Baldwin
Derek Sherrod
Christian Ponder
Mark Ingram

That's really a nice little pool to pick from in actuality. Tough call...all are really nice players that would fit in well.

I want to go with Ponder, but Cassel is coming off a season where he really matured as a player and showed some stuff that I never thought he would do. As well, we just hired Zorn, who has worked magic with other quarterbacks.

Baldwin is a stud and he's got the tools to be a really good receiver at the next level. However, we have Bowe as the #1 and I think that we can pick up a #2 WR later in the draft. Same thing with Ingram having Charles as your key RB.

However, with the tackle spot, we've got Albert and Richardson. Unless that gets upgraded you will always worry about pass protection issues and decent run blocking, particularly in short yardage/red zone situations.

Sherrod by a gnat hair over Ponder.

No, wait...

Screw that. I take Ponder. I think that he's totally legit and would kill it in Haley's offense.

Coogs · 04-19-2011, 08:27 AM

I like the thought of a QB, but just can not see us doing that in the 1st round. I'm going with Pouncey at C, but just barely over Carimi/Sherrod.

RedThat · 04-19-2011, 08:28 AM

The pick should be Pouncey its a no-brainer. If he falls to us at that point, they should go with him.

Chiefnj2 · 04-19-2011, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by RedThat

The pick should be Pouncey its a no-brainer. If he falls to us at that point, they should go with him.

Why?? KC has Lilja, Asamoah and probably Waters this year.

TRR · 04-19-2011, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Why?? KC has Lilja, Asamoah and probably Waters this year.

Agreed. If Pouncey truly isn't a starting center than I pass on him in the 1st. KC has too many needs at other positions to spend a 1st on an OG.
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Coogs · 04-19-2011, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by TRR

Agreed. If Pouncey truly isn't a starting center than I pass on him in the 1st. KC has too many needs at other positions to spend a 1st on an OG.
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He is getting a lot of attention at C nationally. ChiefsPlanet... not so much. Go figure.

Saccopoo · 04-19-2011, 09:55 AM

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He is getting a lot of attention at C nationally. ChiefsPlanet... not so much. Go figure.

As I stated elsewhere, after the snap, he was a man amongst boys. However, even to the last game last season, he was still having problems with the handoff. If you take him at center, he's a project that might never get it. Kind of like Wisniewski. Sure, he made some All-Conference teams his junior year at the center position, but it was on reputation and what he did after the snap. He struggled with the handoff and was moved back to guard for his senior year.

Either you get it or you don't at center. Because a guy plays guard really well doesn't mean he can play center. Because a guy's brother plays center doesn't mean he can play center.

At this point, the guy is a guard. And, in all honesty, he's not even the best guard in the draft. Rod Hudson is that guy. And unless you are a team like New England, who has most roster spots filled and has a boat load of picks in the first two rounds and has need of a guard, you never take a guard in the first. Especially if you are the Chiefs, having substantially more important holes to fill. Besides, we already took a guard in the first in 2008.

The Chiefs don't need projects, they need guys who can step in a play the position at a high level.

RedThat · 04-19-2011, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Why?? KC has Lilja, Asamoah and probably Waters this year.

Pouncey>Lilja

Pouncey>Waters

That is all. Nuff said.

**The Franchise** · 04-19-2011, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat

Pouncey>Lilja

Pouncey>Waters

That is all. Nuff said.

Yeah....let's draft ANOTHER guard.

Mr. Laz · 04-19-2011, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Yeah....let's draft ANOTHER guard.

some people think he's going to be a Center

RedThat · 04-19-2011, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Yeah....let's draft ANOTHER guard.

Its not like our guards amount to anything special anyway imo. May not be a bad idea.

**RealSNR** · 04-19-2011, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat

Pouncey>Lilja

Pouncey>Waters

That is all. Nuff said.

You just made a convincing argument for drafting a QB in the first round.

All QBs in this draft > Cassel

04-18-2011, 07:30 PM	#3
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04-19-2011, 12:18 AM	#4
Saccopoo Kindness in words... Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Zion Casino cash: $10025483	Chiefs biggest needs, in order, as it relates to the GBN draft: 1. Nose Tackle - Phil Taylor is a big reach in the first round, at that was before the foot situation came to light. 2. Wide Receiver - With AJ Green and Jones off the board, Jon Baldwin is the next best prospect. Big and fast. He's a legit option at #21 for the Chiefs. 3. Center - I'm not sold on Mike Pouncey as a NFL center. 4. Offensive Tackle - Costanzo went to the Giants. Of the remaining top tackles left, Derek Sherrod has the size and athleticism to play either tackle spot in the Chiefs zone scheme. This flexibility gives him the nod over the others. 5. Sam Outside Linebacker - Akeem Ayers would be a viable pick in the second or third round. However, his lack of strength and speed is going to hinder his development at the next level. His best position in the NFL will probably be inside to cover up his lack of burst and pursuit speed. 6. Quarterback - I think Ponder is legit and would not be there in the second. He bulked up to 230 for his pro day and received raves about his accuracy and arm strength. He's more accurate than Locker and is more mentally ready to be a NFL QB than Mallet. I think that the guy would be an absolute stud in Haley's offense. 7. Running Back - Thomas Jones is, by NFL running back standards, old and Jamall is too small to be a true full time running back. Mark Ingram is still on the board. He's a big back with exceptional vision and would allow the Chiefs to maintain a high level of productivity at the position while running a committee approach. So, the possible picks for the Chiefs would be: Jon Baldwin Derek Sherrod Christian Ponder Mark Ingram That's really a nice little pool to pick from in actuality. Tough call...all are really nice players that would fit in well. I want to go with Ponder, but Cassel is coming off a season where he really matured as a player and showed some stuff that I never thought he would do. As well, we just hired Zorn, who has worked magic with other quarterbacks. Baldwin is a stud and he's got the tools to be a really good receiver at the next level. However, we have Bowe as the #1 and I think that we can pick up a #2 WR later in the draft. Same thing with Ingram having Charles as your key RB. However, with the tackle spot, we've got Albert and Richardson. Unless that gets upgraded you will always worry about pass protection issues and decent run blocking, particularly in short yardage/red zone situations. Sherrod by a gnat hair over Ponder. No, wait... Screw that. I take Ponder. I think that he's totally legit and would kill it in Haley's offense.
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04-19-2011, 08:27 AM	#5
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04-19-2011, 08:28 AM	#6
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04-18-2011, 06:01 PM	#1
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04-18-2011, 07:25 PM	#2
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