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Old 04-19-2011, 09:24 AM   #1
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Why?? KC has Lilja, Asamoah and probably Waters this year.
Agreed. If Pouncey truly isn't a starting center than I pass on him in the 1st. KC has too many needs at other positions to spend a 1st on an OG.
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Old 04-19-2011, 09:38 AM   #2
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Agreed. If Pouncey truly isn't a starting center than I pass on him in the 1st. KC has too many needs at other positions to spend a 1st on an OG.
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He is getting a lot of attention at C nationally. ChiefsPlanet... not so much. Go figure.
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Old 04-19-2011, 09:55 AM   #3
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He is getting a lot of attention at C nationally. ChiefsPlanet... not so much. Go figure.
As I stated elsewhere, after the snap, he was a man amongst boys. However, even to the last game last season, he was still having problems with the handoff. If you take him at center, he's a project that might never get it. Kind of like Wisniewski. Sure, he made some All-Conference teams his junior year at the center position, but it was on reputation and what he did after the snap. He struggled with the handoff and was moved back to guard for his senior year.

Either you get it or you don't at center. Because a guy plays guard really well doesn't mean he can play center. Because a guy's brother plays center doesn't mean he can play center.

At this point, the guy is a guard. And, in all honesty, he's not even the best guard in the draft. Rod Hudson is that guy. And unless you are a team like New England, who has most roster spots filled and has a boat load of picks in the first two rounds and has need of a guard, you never take a guard in the first. Especially if you are the Chiefs, having substantially more important holes to fill. Besides, we already took a guard in the first in 2008.

The Chiefs don't need projects, they need guys who can step in a play the position at a high level.
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Old 04-19-2011, 12:44 PM   #4
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As I stated elsewhere, after the snap, he was a man amongst boys. However, even to the last game last season, he was still having problems with the handoff. If you take him at center, he's a project that might never get it. Kind of like Wisniewski. Sure, he made some All-Conference teams his junior year at the center position, but it was on reputation and what he did after the snap. He struggled with the handoff and was moved back to guard for his senior year.

Either you get it or you don't at center. Because a guy plays guard really well doesn't mean he can play center. Because a guy's brother plays center doesn't mean he can play center.

At this point, the guy is a guard. And, in all honesty, he's not even the best guard in the draft. Rod Hudson is that guy. And unless you are a team like New England, who has most roster spots filled and has a boat load of picks in the first two rounds and has need of a guard, you never take a guard in the first. Especially if you are the Chiefs, having substantially more important holes to fill. Besides, we already took a guard in the first in 2008.

The Chiefs don't need projects, they need guys who can step in a play the position at a high level.
Snapping the ball is your main concern? Really? You honestly think that a guy with that kind of talent won't figure out how to consistantly snap the ball?

That's a risk I'm willing to take. If you end up being right, fine, we'll still have a great guard. His upside is well worth the risk IMO.
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Old 04-19-2011, 12:55 PM   #5
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Snapping the ball is your main concern? Really? You honestly think that a guy with that kind of talent won't figure out how to consistantly snap the ball?

That's a risk I'm willing to take. If you end up being right, fine, we'll still have a great guard. His upside is well worth the risk IMO.
For a guy playing center, yes, snapping the ball proficiently would be a main concern of mine.

And I don't know if he'll figure it out. I watched Florida's last game in 2010, and he was still screwing up the snap/handoff.

And as I stated, I don't think he's even the best guard in this draft. That honor would go to Rod Hudson of Florida State, who has also played some center in his career. I think Hudson would be a better fit for the zone scheme the Chiefs run anyway versus Pouncey, who's more of a mauler type.

It's not a bad pick if you think he can play the center spot. Not a great pick, but not bad. I think you can get a good center much later in the draft this year. Guys like Linnenkohl, Taylor, Barnes, Kirkpatrick, Baxter and Bartholomew would be nice fits for this system and have long term experience at the pivot.
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