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Old 04-19-2011, 08:38 AM  
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Chiefs trade scenario?

Every year players fall in the draft that we don't anticipate. I remember when many on this board were enamored with Everette Brown and Clausen and both fell to the 2nd round and several endorsed taking those players early.

I have also talked about trading down in previous years, but I feel that trading up may be a better option this year if the following scenario plays out.

If Julio Jones falls to the 12th pick in the draft where the Minnesota Vikings pick, the Chiefs should trade up to get him.

For starters I believe that Todd Hailey is one of the best WR and TE coaches in the game. If my memory serves me well, everywhere he goes, pro bowl WRs follow. I don't think the improved play of Dwayne Bowe is by chance.

Secondly, Julio Jones fits our system very well. We make running the ball a priority and he is the best run blockers in this draft that I am aware of. Also, he provides a deep threat. He needs polishing, but I believe that he would be pro bowler for the Chiefs with Haley's coaching. This situation appears to be one with a high floor and very high ceiling.

Third. The Vikings are in desperate need of a DT and we should be able to trade Glenn Dorsey to the Vikings for partial compensation in the trade. Dorsey is a better fit in there 4-3 system and provides immediate security for their problems with the old Williams wall, where one of the Williams maybe suspended. Dorsey has shown enough to provide considerable value to the Vikings in the 4-3, where he is a better fit.

I haven't looked at the trade chart, but I am guessing that the Vikings could get Dorsey, and maybe our 3rd and 5th and a pick next year depending on the play of Dorsey. Maybe this is too much or not quite enough, but I am guessing that it is in the ball park for a nine position move up depending on how you value Dorsey.


Go get one the best athletes in this draft!

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Old 04-19-2011, 12:05 PM   #31
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Old 04-19-2011, 12:12 PM   #33
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That's not near enough. A third rounder??? Julio Jones is a once in a decade type of athlete. He is a perfect fit for the chiefs and would be coached by a head coach who makes WRs into pro bowlers. He also blocks and does not appear to be a pre maddonna.
Pre Maddonna.

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That's not near enough. A third rounder??? Julio Jones is a once in a decade type of athlete. He is a perfect fit for the chiefs and would be coached by a head coach who makes WRs into pro bowlers. He also blocks and does not appear to be a pre maddonna.
Apparently he's a twice in a decade type of athlete, since AJ Green will almost undoubtedly get taken before Julio Jones
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Combine numbers.

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Congratulations. Did you hear.....Vernon Gholston tore up the combine!!! He's a once in a decade player!


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Old 04-19-2011, 12:20 PM   #37
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name a better athlete at his size other than calvin johnson. He is about the same size as Larry Fitz but a better athlete.
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You ****ing dumbass.
You are right. I am the only one who thinks Julio Jones is any good.

Julio Jones is a good receiver and a great athlete. He has the potential to be special.

You are ridiculious.
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name a better athlete at his size other than calvin johnson. He is about the same size as Larry Fitz but a better athlete.
Andre Johnson?
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You are right. I am the only one who thinks Julio Jones is any good.

Julio Jones is a good receiver and a great athlete. He has the potential to be special.

You are ridiculious.
No you aren't the only one who thinks that Jones is good. I personally think he's a damn good WR. But I also didn't come on here saying that:

A. We should trade Dorsey to move up to get him.
B. That he's a once in a decade player and then go on to post his combine stats. Combine stats are ****ing pointless when it comes to actually playing the game.
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If we're going strictly by athletic ability....Brandon Marshall is pretty ****ing good. He's got a 10 cent head....but he's ****ing athletic as hell.
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Old 04-19-2011, 12:26 PM   #44
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name a better athlete at his size other than calvin johnson. He is about the same size as Larry Fitz but a better athlete.
Jones has all the tools to be a stud.

The problem is, with Dwayne Bowe on the roster, trading up for a #2 wide receiver is a bit silly considering all the holes that this roster currently is afflicted with - NT, OT, C, OLB and WR.

Losing draft pics to pick up a #2 WR isn't a smart move for this franchise at this point.

And, you could say that his combine numbers and on-the-field production actually mirror those of Pitt receiver Jon Baldwin, who may be on the board in the second round when the Chiefs pick. Probably not, but there is a chance. A guy like Hankerson also has very nice numbers and had an incredible year for Miami last season and he might be there in the second as well.

No, I don't think giving up picks to move up in the first round for Jones makes a lot of sense.
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That's not near enough. A third rounder??? Julio Jones is a once in a decade type of athlete. He is a perfect fit for the chiefs and would be coached by a head coach who makes WRs into pro bowlers. He also blocks and does not appear to be a pre maddonna.
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