Chiefs trade scenario?

[The Bad Guy]

Great. Just what this site needs - another ****ing person who knows jack shit about the draft process.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Great. Just what this site needs - another ****ing person who knows jack shit about the draft process.

I have to disagree. I think reeruns like kcbubb, findthedouche, and voyager are exactly what this place needs to garner excitement and discussion about the draft.

chiefscafan is good, but he just isn't enough

[milkman]

Originally Posted by SNR

I have to disagree. I think reeruns like kcbubb, findthedouche, and voyager are exactly what this place needs to garner excitement and discussion about the draft.

chiefscafan is good, but he just isn't enough

I agree with you a bit, though, with this thread, my initial post should have ended this discussion.

It was short, and to the point.

It covered everything that needed to be covered.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by SNR

I have to disagree. I think reeruns like kcbubb, findthedouche, and voyager are exactly what this place needs to garner excitement and discussion about the draft.

chiefscafan is good, but he just isn't enough

I guess you're right to a degree. It just makes my skin crawl, but it also makes me appreciate guys who actually know the draft, and the value of Glenn Dorsey to this team.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I guess you're right to a degree. It just makes my skin crawl, but it also makes me appreciate guys who actually know the draft, and the value of Glenn Dorsey to this team.

If, by value, you mean a lack of production, I feel you.

Four sacks and one forced fumble in three years. That's three years of starting 46 out of 47 games.

Awesome.

By comparison, Darnell Dockett, playing the same spot in the same alignment at about the same size, has 16 sacks and four forced fumbles over the same time period.

Now, Dorsey was substantially more active this past season and did log a career high 69 tackles (51 solo, 18 assists), but he wasn't very effective in penetrating or holding up the point of attack. A lot of his tackles were back-end pursuit types that he picked up as teams ran to his side inside the pass rush of Hali.

At this point, he hasn't lived up to the status of being the fifth overall selection in the 2008 draft. However, that particular draft is littered with bustos and it did look like a good selection at the time, particularly as we were running a 4-3 at that point.

I think he'd also do a lot better with a more active, run plugging NT beside him, and I hope that the team addresses that position in the draft. (Jerrell Powe or Chris Nield would be completely acceptable.)

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

If, by value, you mean a lack of production, I feel you.

Four sacks and one forced fumble in three years. That's three years of starting 46 out of 47 games.

Awesome.

By comparison, Darnell Dockett, playing the same spot in the same alignment at about the same size, has 16 sacks and four forced fumbles over the same time period.

Now, Dorsey was substantially more active this past season and did log a career high 69 tackles (51 solo, 18 assists), but he wasn't very effective in penetrating or holding up the point of attack. A lot of his tackles were back-end pursuit types that he picked up as teams ran to his side inside the pass rush of Hali.

At this point, he hasn't lived up to the status of being the fifth overall selection in the 2008 draft. However, that particular draft is littered with bustos and it did look like a good selection at the time, particularly as we were running a 4-3 at that point.

I think he'd also do a lot better with a more active, run plugging NT beside him, and I hope that the team addresses that position in the draft. (Jerrell Powe or Chris Nield would be completely acceptable.)

haha

you put on this show if trying to be the "trenches" guy of the board and overvalue the need on all accounts...but then show how LITTLE you actually know about the "trenches" every time you chime in on a topic about them.

One second you are trying to paint Albert as the worst tackle in football and then make dumbshit claims like Dorsey has trouble holding the POA.

Milkman has a word for people like that/you.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by BossChief

haha

you put on this show if trying to be the "trenches" guy of the board and overvalue the need on all accounts...but then show how LITTLE you actually know about the "trenches" every time you chime in on a topic about them.

One second you are trying to paint Albert as the worst tackle in football and then make dumbshit claims like Dorsey has trouble holding the POA.

Milkman has a word for people like that/you.

Saccoshit is basically on the same level as the thread starter except he knows a lot of college football names.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by BossChief

haha

you put on this show if trying to be the "trenches" guy of the board and overvalue the need on all accounts...but then show how LITTLE you actually know about the "trenches" every time you chime in on a topic about them.

One second you are trying to paint Albert as the worst tackle in football and then make dumbshit claims like Dorsey has trouble holding the POA.

He is (actually, I don't think he's the worst, just bottom tier), and he does (Dorsey did struggle to hold/standup the point of attack this past season, and there were times that he was virtually non-existent or was getting driven back. He improved over his sophomore effort, but it wasn't a Pro Bowl performance by any stretch. He did have moments where he made plays, but they were more singular efforts rather than game long consistency.), respectively.

Milkman has a word for people like that/you.

Prophetic? Insightful? Charming?

[OnTheWarpath15]